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The Hollywood Ripper on Trial

Part 2: Four young women attacked, only one survivor. "48 Hours" correspondent Maureen Maher has been on the trail of serial killer Michael Gargiulo for more than a decade. How "48 Hours" helped crack one of the cases.
May 31, 2020 (42:11)

TRANSCRIPT FOR: “THE HOLLYWOOD RIPPER ON TRIAL”

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MICHAEL GARGIULO. >> Reporter: ADDING TO THEIR ARGUMENT... >> YOU KNOW ABOUT THE D. N. A. >> Reporter: ... IS THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE, WITH GARGIULO'S D. N. A. FOUND ALL OVER MICHELLE MURPHY'S APARTMENT, ON TRICIA PACACCIO'S FINGERNAILS, AND THAT SLIGHT AMOUNT ON THAT BOOTIE NEAR MARIA BRUNO'S HOME. >> THE PROSECUTION IS TRYING TO LUMP THESE ALL TOGETHER. WHY? BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SHOW THAT IT WAS ONE ATTACKER. THAT THE PATTERN, THE PRACTICE, THE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT WAS DONE WAS SIMILAR. >> YOU HAVE TO JUDGE EACH CASE SEPARATELY. >> ON THE OTHER HAND, THE DEFENSE IS TRYING TO DO JUST THE OPPOSITE. THEY WANT TO SEPARATE THESE OUT. THEY WANT TO SHOW THAT, " NO, NO, NO, ONE'S IN ILLINOIS ," YOU KNOW. " YES, YOU MAY HAVE SOME IN CALIFORNIA, BUT THEY'RE SEPARATED BY YEARS AND TIME. THEY'RE NOT JUST ONE ATTACKER ." >> YOU CAN FIND HIM NOT GUILTY ON ALL THESE CRIMES. OR YOU CAN FIND HIM GUILTY OF SOME CRIMES AND NOT GUILTY OF-- OF OTHER CRIMES. >> THE DEFENSE JUST NEEDS TO PLANT A SEED OF DOUBT IN ONE OF THOSE JURORS. >> Reporter: THE THREE- MONTH TRIAL OF MICHAEL GARGIULO HAS CAPTURED THE PUBLIC'S ATTENTION. >>\ ALLEGED KILLER DUBBED THE \" HOLLYWOOD RIPPER" CLAIMS HE'S \ INNOCENT. >>\ HE'S ACCUSED OF ATTACKING AT \ LEAST FOUR WOMEN. >> Reporter: FOR THE FAMILIES OF THE VICTIMS, THE WAIT FOR JUSTICE HAS SEEMED ENDLESS. FINALLY, THE FINISH SEEMS TO BE IN SIGHT AS THE JURY BEGINS ITS DELIBERATIONS ON AUGUST 12, 2019. >> THIS WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE WORST CASES. AND I'VE WORKED IN THIS AREA FOR A LONG TIME AS A PROSECUTOR AND DEFENSE ATTORNEY, AND I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING THIS HORRIFIC. SO, FOR THIS JURY TO HAVE TO SEE ALL THIS EVIDENCE AND DAY IN AND DAY OUT FOR THREE MONTHS THINK ABOUT THIS CASE AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THESE VICTIMS IS REALLY CHALLENGING. >> Reporter: BUT IN WHAT MIGHT SEEM LIKE A SHORT TIME, GIVEN SUCH A LONG TRIAL, AFTER THREE AND A HALF DAYS OF DELIBERATIONS, THE VERDICTS ARE IN. >> WE, THE JURY IN THE ABOVE ENTITLED ACTION, FIND THE DEFENDANT, MICHAEL GARGIULO, GUILTY OF THE CRIME OF ATTEMPTED MURDER. >> Reporter: GUILTY OF ATTACKING MICHELLE MURPHY... >> GUILTY OF THE CRIME OF FIRST- DEGREE MURDER. >> Reporter: ... GUILTY OF MURDERING MARIA BRUNO... >> GUILTY OF THE CRIME OF FIRST- DEGREE MURDER. >> Reporter: ... AND GUILTY OF MURDERING ASHLEY ELLERIN. MICHAEL GARGIULO SAT WITHOUT EMOTION AS HE HEARD THE VERDICTS. OUTSIDE THE COURTROOM, I IMMEDIATELY CALLED THE PACACCIOS WITH THE NEWS. IT'S ALL DONE. IT'S ALL DONE HERE. AND NOW IT'S YOUR TURN. SHE'S SOBBING. SOBBING, SOBBING. SHE'S SO GRATEFUL THAT THEY ALL GOT THEIR JUSTICE AND THAT NOW IT'S TRICIA'S TURN. REMEMBER, TRICIA'S CASE WAS INCLUDED IN CALIFORNIA ONLY AS SUPPORTING EVIDENCE OF MICHAEL GARGIULO'S CRIMINAL PATTERN. IT IS UP TO ILLINOIS OFFICIALS IN COOK COUNTY TO TRY THE CASE THERE. >> WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT COOK COUNTY NOW DOES THE JOB THAT THEY NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO BECAUSE THEY NEED TO PROSECUTE HIM FOR WHAT HE DID TO MY DAUGHTER. >> Reporter: ARE YOU CONFIDENT THAT HE \ WILL \ BE BROUGHT BACK TO CHICAGO AND HE \ WILL \ STAND TRIAL? >> TALKING WITH THE CALIFORNIA ATTORNEYS AND OUR ATTORNEYS IN COOK COUNTY, I FEEL CONFIDENT. >> Reporter: THE PACACCIOS ARE CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC AS THEY SAY THEY HAVE BEEN LET DOWN BY THE COOK COUNTY STATE'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BEFORE. THE FAMILY HAS CRITICIZED THAT OFFICE FOR BEING SLOW TO CHARGE GARGIULO WHEN THERE WAS THAT D. N. A. MATCH IN 2003. WHEN WE SPOKE WITH JACK BLAKEY FROM THE COOK COUNTY STATE'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN 2011, HE TOLD US THAT D. N. A. MATCH ALONE WASN'T ENOUGH TO CHARGE GARGIULO. IF THERE WAS A D. N. A. MATCH TO GARGIULO, WHY HASN'T HE BEEN ARRESTED? >> THE D. N. A. MATCH IS CONSISTENT WITH CASUAL CONTACT. WE STILL CANNOT ESTABLISH, BASED ON THE D. N. A. ALONE, THAT HE WAS PRESENT AT THE TIME OF THE KILLING, AS OPPOSED TO A DIFFERENT TIME. >> Reporter: BUT IT CAME OUT AT THE LOS ANGELES TRIAL THAT AN ILLINOIS FORENSIC SCIENTIST SUBMITTED HER FINDINGS TO COOK COUNTY PROSECUTORS IN 2003, THAT IT \ WAS \ A 50 / 50 MIXTURE OF TRICIA AND GARGIULO'S D. N. A. ON TRICIA'S FINGERNAILS. REMEMBER, THE EXPERT FROM JOHN JAY COLLEGE OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE TOLD US THAT USUALLY SIGNIFIES EXTENSIVE CONTACT. >> A 50 / 50 MIXTURE MEANS, IN ALMOST ALL CASES, THAT THERE WAS A \ LOT \ OF D. N. A ., A LOT OF CELLS FROM BOTH PARTIES. THAT WOULD REQUIRE EXTENSIVE CONTACT. >> Reporter: IN ALMOST ALL CASES, EXTENSIVE CONTACT. SO, WHY \ NOT \ BRING CHARGES? >> A LOT OF PROSECUTORS ARE HESITANT TO BRING A CASE WHEN THERE'S NOT AT LEAST ONE OTHER PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT HELPS COMPLETE THE PICTURE OF HOW THE D. N. A. GOT THERE. >> Reporter: DOES IT BOTHER YOU THAT THE CHARGES WEREN'T FILED? >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. WE HAD HIM IN 2003. >> Reporter: YOU HAD HIM? >> IT DIDN'T WORK OUT. >> Reporter: FOR LOU SALA, THE LEAD DETECTIVE ON THE PACACCIO CASE, THE FOCUS NOW IS SEEKING CLOSURE TO THE CASE THAT HAS HAUNTED HIM THROUGH THE LATTER PART OF HIS CAREER AND INTO RETIREMENT. >> NOW THAT L. A. IS-- IS DONE, THEY FULLY INTEND TO EXTRADITE HIM BACK HERE. AND I-- I THINK IT HAS TO BE DONE FOR THE PACACCIO FAMILY. THEIR VERDICT IS STILL COMING. >> Reporter: BUT THE TRIAL IN L. A. DID GIVE THE PACCACCIOS A CHANCE TO MEET THE MEN WHO CHANGED THE COURSE OF TRICIA'S CASE, TEMER AND ANTHONY, WHO CAME FORWARD WITH GARGIULO'S STATEMENTS, EVIDENCE THAT PUSHED AUTHORITIES TO FINALLY CHARGE GARGIULO WITH TRICIA'S MURDER. SO, YOU HAVE BOTH MET THE PACACCIOS NOW? >> YES. >> YEAH. >> Reporter: WHAT WAS THAT LIKE? >> I-- IT WAS HARD. I SEE OUT OF THE CORNER OF MY EYE, I SEE THEM. AND I SPUN AROUND. AND I, LIKE, YOU KNOW, " RICK ?" AND HE INSTANTLY KNEW WHO I WAS. HE HOPPED UP AND GAVE ME A HUG. >> I FEEL FOR THEM SO MUCH. YOU KNOW, THEY WERE JUST SENT THROUGH THE RINGER THE WHOLE TIME. >> IT'S ALWAYS PAINFUL. IT WILL ALWAYS BE. I JUST TELL PEOPLE IT'S SOMETHING THAT I HAVE TO LIVE WITH NOW AND DEAL WITH NOW AND TRY TO COPE WITH FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. >> Reporter: TRICIA'S REMEMBRANCE BOOK FROM HER FUNERAL PROVIDES BITTERSWEET MEMORIES. AND SO, THERE'S FAMILY IN HERE, OBVIOUSLY, AND LOTS OF FRIENDS. I MEAN, HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE. IT'S FILLED WITH KIND COMMENTS ABOUT THEIR BELOVED DAUGHTER, BUT ALSO THIS. BACK HERE. WHAT IS THAT NAME? >> THAT-- THAT'S-- MICHAEL GARGUILO SIGNED THAT. >> Reporter: IT HAS BEEN A 26- YEAR- LONG JOURNEY FROM WHEN THAT BOOK WAS SIGNED BY THE MAN THE PACACCIOS NOW BELIEVE KILLED THEIR DAUGHTER. GARGIULO IS NOW A CONVICTED MURDERER OF TWO OTHER WOMEN, WOMEN THE PACACCIOS, THROUGH TRICIA, HELPED TO FIND JUSTICE. >> SHE HELPED THESE OTHER GIRLS. SHE WAS A VERY-- ALWAYS LIKED TO HELP PEOPLE. AND I JUST WANT JUSTICE TO GET DONE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MY DAUGHTER DESERVES. >> RIGHT NOW, IT SEEMS AS IF EVERYTHING IS UNPREDICTABLE. >> WE'RE ALL STUCK AT HOME. >> AND LIKE YOU, I'M FEELING A BIT HELPLESS RIGHT NOW. >> BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW WE ARE HERE FOR YOU. >> ALL WORKING TOGETHER. >> YOU ARE NOT ALONE. THAT'S RIGHT! >> BECAUSE WE'RE \ ALL \ IN THIS... >> AND WE'RE ALL IN \ THIS... >> WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER!

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