KRISTIN CABOT:
00:00:43
No. No. Yeah. And, I mean, just thinking about, starting from the very beginning, every single part of my physical appearance was picked apart. There were stories written about jewelry I was wearing and who bought it for me and how much it cost, when one of my best friends is a jewelry designer, and I bought everything for myself that she made me. And my hairdresser somebody found, and that turned into a whole thing where she was dragged for giving me crappy roots-- or crappy highlights, and she got lit up for that. And just everything about how I looked to how I was dressed to how I behaved to sleeping my way to the top, to the gold digger, all the words that Lisa used, the husband stealer-- which, by the way, that expression really bugs me. And I'm not trying to make light, obviously, of adultery. It's not that-- but this notion of women stealing men, like I would walk in and duct tape and zip tie a guy and unwittingly drag him out and steal. Like the man has no role in this. And for me, I was the face of all of this. There was no one talking about Andy's hair, shirt, watch. There was no one questioning-- and maybe anyone here can correct me. I never read or heard anything about, wow, did he become a CEO by sleeping his way to the top? No, and that's all anyone would say about me. It was unfathomable that I might have achieved and worked and hustled and built a career I'm incredibly proud of. That was not on the table. So this is an important conversation because it just gives an insight into the way society treats men and women who find themselves in circumstances like this where there is something happening between them. They are with other people. In this case, she was separated from-- She was separated, and she said, I was there at the taping, number one. It was very interesting to watch because the audience was primarily women, and many people were sitting there, ha rumph, ha rumph. But the more she talked, the more people's hearts opened. The more their minds open. He had told her that he was also separated, going through a divorce. They had not had an affair. Clearly, they were close. They were not-- in other words, they had not-- They had not been intimate. They had not been intimate. They were clearly close. They were bonding over their mutual separation.
NATE BURLESON:
00:02:40
Got caught up in a moment at a concert. And they got caught up in a moment. That was her first time. Her husband was there. Her soon to be ex was there. She was more worried about him being on the Jumbotron. But it was interesting the way women in particular were the main ones that came after-- women did-- Attacked her, you're saying. Yes, that people would show up at her house looking in the window, calling her all sorts of names, threatening her children. Meanwhile, he escaped from all that. He's had job offers. She's had none. And she's a successful executive. That's the duality we live in these days, though. That's the duality. Wait till you see this story. The interview is out on Oprah's YouTube channel or wherever you listen to different podcasts. It's very good.
