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Holmes: Trump asked about "investigation"

David Holmes, a U.S. State Department official in Ukraine, described during his testimony on Thursday the call he overheard between Ambassador Gordon Sondland and President Trump. According to Holmes, he sat "directly across" from Sondland during the call, and "the president's voice was loud and recognizable." Holmes said he heard Mr. Trump ask Sondland if the Ukrainian president "was gonna do the investigation?" to which he says Sondland responded: "He's gonna do it."

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Hill: There was "different channel" for Ukraine

National Security Council expert Fiona Hill testified Thursday that there was a "different channel" at work in the State Department with regard to Ukraine. Republican counsel Stephen Castor asked Hill why she did not think U.S. policy towards Ukraine was headed in the right direction when she left her post. Hill said she was concerned about former Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch's removal and about what she called "a different channel in operation in relation to Ukraine. ... One that was domestic and political in nature, and that was very different from the channel, or loop... that I and my colleagues were in."

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Hill: Sondland ran "domestic political errand"

National Security Council expert Fiona Hill explained during her testimony Thursday that she became frustrated with Ambassador Gordon Sondland because he did not communicate with her or her State Department colleagues about what he was pursuing in Ukraine. Hill said she now understands that Sondland was carrying out a "domestic political errand" at President Trump's orders. "What I was angry about was that he wasn't coordinating with us," Hill said. "Now, I've actually realized, having listened to his deposition, that... he wasn't coordinating with us because we weren't doing the same thing that he was doing."

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