Body And Beauty Vs. Brains And Guts

"Survivor: The Amazon" contestant Jeanne Hebert
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A surprise twist on Survivor: The Amazon had the gender-divided tribes seeking new co-ed alliances. The original all-girl Jaburu tribe was broken up, with the new team determined by Jenna the swimsuit model.

Dave, the rocket scientist, had the honor of breaking up the all-male Tambaqui tribe. But his newly created group lost Thursday night's immunity challenge and sent Jeanne Hebert packing. She joined Julie Chen to talk about her experience.

So what happened to the alliance among Jeanne, Christy and Heidi?

"We made an alliance, and we were going to vote out Butch," she told Chen. "I didn't feel confident in that. I didn't think Heidi was true to me. And I asked Christy if she thought that she would stay with our alliance. She thought so, so that's how we proceeded. I didn't want to break our alliance."

Chen wondered how she sensed that Heidi was not going to be true to her.

"Dave got his hands on Heidi, and Heidi got her hands on David," Hebert replied. "I saw that. I saw little interaction a few times. And I had my inklings, but I made an alliance. I didn't have time to spend the bulletin to Dave and Roger to make an alliance. I wanted to move the women ahead. That's what we all made a pact at the beginning to do."

But she said, had she had more time, she would have switched alliances and hooked up with Dave and Butch.

Her strategy, she said, "was to be honest and true to myself, and I was. I knew eventually the people that I was working with were manipulative. And I wasn't about to play that game. And I know on past Survivors, there have been some really honest people that moved ahead. I was hoping I had a few teammates that would click with me. And I didn't find that out there."

Hebert told Chen that she was shocked when everyone voted off JoAnna, instead of the sickly, complaining Shawna, who basically begged everyone to vote her off.

"I thought they let women down by voting JoAnna off. JoAnna was the strongest. And if they were smart, they would have kept the strongest to move us ahead. They didn't do that. Shawna begged, begged for our votes and JoAnna and I felt that you know, she was the weakest link and we were going to vote her off. I had no idea that they were back there voting JoAnna off.

"Actually," she continued, "Shawna came up to me and said, 'I don't think you have to worry, but maybe JoAnna.' And I said, 'Well, we're not going to vote you off unless you have your alliance voting you off.' She thought she had the votes. So her allies were actually not quite her allies."

Hebert said that when the tribe was still all female, she tried to bond with Heidi and Jenna, but it just didn't work.

"I tried to bond with them. I never felt any connection with them. I thought perhaps maybe they'd identify me with their mother or whatnot. I never felt the connection."

Hebert went on to say that Heidi and Jenna were poor role models for women.

"I was a threat," she said. "I never saw 20-year-olds that lazy or content with using their bodies and their beauty, rather than their intellect and their guts.

"It's a shame, because I think women or young ladies need a role model that will show them that, throughout life, you really need to use your mind, and your determination, and your spirit to move you. And I didn't see that in the girls. And I knew from the beginning that's where they wanted to go. And I just couldn't identify with that. I'd never use my body to advance me."

And, she added, referring to the episode where the younger women went bathing, "I think there was a quote, I don't know exactly, but 'the older women have issues.' And I want to set the record straight. We don't have issues with our bodies. I miss my 20-year-old body. But I would never give it up for the intellect that I have as a 41-year-old mom of three. And I would have loved to take off my clothes in front of everyone. But I didn't want to do it in front of 22 million Americans" watching the show.