GAVIN NEWSOM:
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I don't think Donald Trump wants another election. I have two dozen Trump 2028 hats. His folks keep sending me. And you think he's going to run again? Who spends $200 million on a ballroom at their home and then leaves the house? All right. So this is not a realistic thing at this point, but you never rule anything out in terms of this. What I find interesting, though, Matt, and I'm curious your thoughts, is that Gavin Newsom is really gearing up for potentially to be the challenger against Trump. We're seeing a lot of people try to enter the fray in that way. But I'm curious, what you make of what he said there? I mean, look, Caitlin, the Constitution is very clear on this, that presidents only get two terms. That's something that we, the constitutional scholars, can get into, but the text is plain as day. What is, I think, important about Newsom highlighting this, though, is that this is a moment when liberals in the Democratic Party are fearing all sorts of things at the moment, and they are really engaging with both the legal and political and social worst-case scenarios for the progressive movement, for the liberal movement in this country. And it really benefits Newsom in this moment to energize people on that, to throw out these hypotheticals that really terrify and alarm his most loyal supporters, which would then, by invoking that and saying, I can help to stop that, or I'm going to be the one to call you to wake up, that will cause people to engage with him more, to rally to him, maybe, in 2028. CAITLIN HUEY-BURNS: Yeah, maybe throw a little money his way going forward. It's all fundraising, apparently. Violet and Matt, thank you very much for your time. We appreciate it. We'll stay tuned to your reporting. Thanks.
