For the nation's Second Lady, nice is blah.
"It's just too bland," Dr. Jill Biden, wife of Vice President Joe Biden, told CBS News correspondent Rita Braver. "So I never want to be nice!"
Dr. Biden sat down with Braver in an exclusive, in-depth interview, to be broadcast this weekend on CBS News "Sunday Morning" at 9:00-10:30 a.m. ET/PT.
A longtime college professor with a doctorate in Education, Dr. Biden (or Jill, as she prefers) has a new higher-profile role. In addition to promoting education and the opportunities that community colleges offer, she also spreads the word on breast cancer awareness, and meets and comforts military families.
As Biden has continued her teaching career, she has not let her new prominence get in the way of her job, even asking her security detail to dress down a little bit. And students visiting her cubicle - yes, a cubicle - will see no pictures of her husband plastered on its wall.
"I think it's important that they see me as their English teacher," she said.
In the candid interview, she also asserts the importance of being self-reliant, saying, "I don't want to, you know, say to Joe, 'Hey Joe, can I have $100 bucks for this?' . . . I think it's important for every woman to have her own money and be independent."
Biden also discusses balancing her job as a teacher and her role as Second Lady, and reveals her unique approach to getting her political points across to her husband. (It involves scotch tape.)
Additionally, First Lady Michelle Obama described Jill Biden as "an incredibly passionate, focused woman," and calls herself a fan.
Vice President Biden also joins the discussion, telling Braver how the two first met. "[My brother] Frank said, 'I know this beautiful girl . . . you'll love her. She was in my English class and she hates politics, you'll love her!"
Jill said she found Joe "interesting and charming," and was struck by the fact that on their first date "he shook my hand good night.
"And at one o'clock in the morning, I called my mother and I said, 'Mom, I finally met a gentleman.' And that's what hooked me. That's what hooked me."
The vice president also told Braver about his sons' bid at matchmaking: "Beau said, 'Dad, Hunter and I were thinking we should marry Jill.' Swear to God, swear to God, true story. I didn't have the heart to tell them I'd already asked her and she said no! I had to ask her five times!"
"Why'd you say no?" Braver asked the Second Lady.
"Because here were these little boys who had lost their mom and their sister, and I had to make sure that this marriage was going to work," Jill Biden explained, "and because I just couldn't have their hearts broken again."
Watch the exclusive profile Sunday, December 13 at 9:00 a.m. ET/PT.