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Hamas releases four more deceased hostages

Hamas released the remains of four more deceased hostages to the Red Cross on Tuesday, in addition to the four bodies returned on Monday. There are still 20 bodies left that need to be brought back to Israel. CBS News senior White House and political correspondent Ed O'Keefe has more.
Oct 14, 2025 (04:42)

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TONY DOKOUPIL:
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Mr. Trump says the war is over, but clearly the war is not over. The IDF is deployed to sections of Gaza still, and Hamas is still on the streets of Gaza. How can you say the war is over? Well, we agreed to give peace a chance. We agreed that we should. The conditions in his 20-point plan are very clear. It's not only that we get the hostages out without getting our military out, but that we would subsequently have both demilitarization and disarmament. They're not the same thing. First, Hamas has to give up its arms. And second, you want to make sure that there are no weapons factories inside Gaza. There's no smuggling of weapons into Gaza. That's demilitarization. We agreed that that's part of the plan. And we also agreed, OK, let's get the first part done. And now let's give a chance to do the second part peacefully, which is my hope. But if not-- I think I heard the president speak tonight. He said, listen, they better do it or-- how I speak for him? He said, all hell breaks loose. Well, I hope it doesn't. I hope we can do this peacefully. And we're certainly ready to do so. Senior White House and Political Correspondent Ed O'Keefe joins us now. Ed, very good to see you here. Netanyahu and other world leaders have credited President Trump for securing this peace plan, bringing everyone to the table there. How involved will the US be going forward? The big question we're trying to answer, Nancy. We've been asking. And the president today on his social media site praising the fact that the 20 hostages are back and as good as can be expected, but saying the job is not done. The debt have not been returned, as promised. And phase two begins right now. What exactly is phase two, beyond what was discussed today, the possibility of Hamas eventually disarming, handing over its weapons? And then you heard the president there say, if they don't, then they might be taken by force. And then the prime minister backing him up, saying he agrees with that. It's a sign that there's still great skepticism and concern that this could fall apart at a moment's notice if the violence flares up again or if they hit some kind of a stalemate. So there's questions about who exactly on the US side is going to remain actively engaged in moving this forward at a time when the president has so many other domestic and foreign policy issues to deal with. He was meeting with the president of Argentina today. He's got the leader of Ukraine coming on Friday. He's getting ready for a big trip to Asia to meet with China's president, after threatening again today to append the US-China trade relationship. So how do you keep a president focused on that big accomplishment, undeniable accomplishment, in recent days while also dealing with all those other issues remains to be seen. Yeah, certainly a lot on his plate. But also, Ed, coming back from Egypt, President Trump was asked about a possible two-state solution. What did he say about that? He remained vague. He said, look, it doesn't matter to me if it's a one-state or two-state solution. It's all going to get worked out. In other words, he's staying out of those nitty-gritty details right now, understanding that the dynamics of this are such that there's a lot of other things that have to be accomplished before you get to that conversation. Remember, there was a 20-point comprehensive plan released by the president about three weeks ago now. And at the time, you look at that list, you think, a lot of these things could take weeks, months, if not years to negotiate individually, let alone as one big package. And one of the issues is the future of Gaza, the West Bank, as to what it is, who controls it. All of that yet to be determined. In part, there's questions about who leads Gaza as it gets rebuilt. Is it this Board of Peace that the president is supposed to co-chair with the former British Prime Minister, Tony Blair, for example? Or is it someone else? Is it some representative of the Palestinian Authority or Hamas? All of those issues yet to be sorted out, part of the reason why the president stayed away from details like whether or not ultimately he wants to see two states. Nancy.

NANCY CHEN:
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Ed O'Keefe there at the White House. Ed, always very good to see you. Thank you very much.

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