Sandusky on horsing around in the shower: "That was just me"

FILE - In this Nov. 5, 2011 file photo, former Penn State football defensive coordinator Gerald "Jerry" Sandusky sits in a car as he leaves the office of Centre County Magisterial District Judge Leslie A. Dutchcot in State College, Pa. Sandusky, who is charged with sexually abusing eight boys in a scandal that has rocked the university, said in an telephone interview with Bob Costas Monday night on NBC News' "Rock Center" that there was no abuse and that any activities in a campus shower with a boy were just horseplay, not molestation.
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Jerry Sandusky
Jerry Sandusky
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(CBS/AP) In a four-hour interview with the New York Times, former Penn State assistant coach Jerry Sandusky again denied charges that he sexually molested boys.

Sandusky told Times reporter Jo Becker that it wasn't wrong for him to have showered with boys he mentored because "we were an extended family."

Sandusky also said that his boss, Joe Paterno, never spoke to him about any sexual abuse allegations.

But he said Penn State University Athletic Director Tim Curley did come to him with concerns that he had behaved inappropriately with a boy in the shower.

"In my mind it wasn't inappropriate behavior," Sandusky said.

Sandusky told the Times that Curly told him that he didn't want him bringing kids to the university to "work them out," but did not take his keys away.

"He didn't take my keys," said Sandusky. "I still have my keys."

Becker asked about Sandusky's behavior with children he knew from The Second Mile, the charity he founded and where, according to authorities, he found his victims.

"Showering with kids, blowing on their stomach, bear hugging them, might to some people, in a vacuum seem strange," said Becker.

But not, apparently, to Sandusky, who responded, "That was just me."

Becker also asked Sandusky about his on-air phone interview with NBC's Bob Costas, where the former coach seemed to hesitate after being asked if he was sexually attracted to young boys.

He told the Times, "What in the world is this question?... If I say, no I'm not attracted to boys, that's not the truth because I'm attracted to young people, boy, girls..."

His attorney then breaks in saying, "Yeah, but not sexually. You're attracted because you enjoy spending time..."

"Right, that's what I was trying to say," says Sandusky. "I enjoy spending time with young people."

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