Johnston watched with cameras from "The Insider" rolling as Palin was interviewed by Winfrey and, says "The Insider" 's Chris Johnson, took exception again and again to things Palin was saying about him:
Palin: (It's) a bit heartbreaking to see the road that he is on right now.
Johnston: I think she's going out and talking and she's just digging a bigger hole for herself.
Palin: (It's) kind of this aspiring -- aspiring porn, some of the things that he's doing -- it's kind of heartbreaking.
Winfrey: The (upcoming) Playgirl centerfold (photo spread)?
Palin: Right. I call that porn. Yes.
Johnston: I just look at her in disgust. ... It's almost funny, that she's like, 46 years old, and she's battling a 19 year old, and I'm winning. And I'm telling the truth. She's lying and losing. ... If you look at her face, she's got -- she's really -- you can tell her mind's going 100 miles an hour when Oprah asked her those Levi questions. ... I've got a lot more knowledge and credibility than she gives me credit for.
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Palin: By the way: I don't know if we call him Levi. I hear he goes by the name 'Ricky Hollywood' now, so, if that's the case, we don't wanna mess up this gig he's got going.
Levi: She's really underestimating me right now. And that's not a smart thing to do.
Palin implied Levi's a liar:
Palin: The whole premise of Levi ever having lived with (Palin's daughter) Bristol (the teenage mother of Palin's grandson and Johnston's son) is false. And from there though, you take that foundational untruth, and you can kind of measure all the other things he's saying.
Johnston: She's basically calling me a liar. Which is total bull----. ... I did -- for a couple of months (live with Bristol). Then we split up and that was it. ... You can totally tell, if you pay attention, that she's the one that's full of ----.
Levi was especially irritated by this moment, Jacobs reports:
Winfrey: What happens when he comes to see the baby?
Palin: He's quite busy with his media tours. And he hasn't seen the baby for a while.
Johnston: I've been gone a lot on the media (tours). ... I haven't seen him a lot, but that's not always why.
Johnston has long contended that the Palins are keeping him away from his now 10-month-old son, and that he's gearing up for a custody battle.
Johnston: When were go into court, all this is gonna be over with, and I won't have much else to say about Sarah Palin, 'cause I will have my kid."
Palin appears to extend an olive branch to Johnston but, observes Jacobs, Johnston says there's no truce yet:
Palin: Open invitation for Levi to come to Aunt Katie's house for Thanksgiving dinner in Washington. There. It's there."
Johnston: (Being sarcastic): That was a real convincing invite. ... I think, if I go there, I'm gonna need an army, 'cause it's not gonna be good."