SCHIEFFER: The Israeli prime minister, Netanyahu, has already called it a monumental mistake.
PANETTA: Yes, no, I -- I understand the concerns. And as I said, I think it is incumbent on us to make very certain that we put some very strict conditions on any deal with the Iranians. I mean what are they going to do with the enriched fuel that they already have? And they've got a lot of it. What are they going to do with that? What are they going to do with their centrifuges? And they've got a lot of those. What are they going to do with the heavy water reactor that could produce plutonium? What are they going to do to make sure they don't Have any other hidden sights with regards to enrichment? There are a lot of conditions, a lot of steps that has to be put in place to make sure that they, indeed, are serious about eliminating their nuclear capability.
SCHIEFFER: Mr. Secretary, you seem especially skeptical of the Iranians. Why is that?
PANETTA: You know, my experience is that the Iranians not only, you know, obviously have promoted terrorism, but, you know, they've directly engaged, in terms of conflict. The Iranians actually shot down one of our drone planes that, you know, looks -- looks over that part of the -- the Gulf. And we sent a clear message to them that we were going to have F- 16s be able to accompany our drones. And if they try to go after our drones again, we're going to shoot them down. And they backed off. So I think it's important -- the lesson I guess I draw from this is you'd better operate from a position of strength if you want to deal with the Iranians.
O'DONNELL: We'll hear more from Bob's interview Secretary Panetta later in the broadcast. We'll be right back.
O'DONNELL: Last week, New Jersey governor, a Republican, won a big victory in the very blue state of New Jersey. In fact, it was the largest margin of victory by any Republican in the Garden State in 30 years. And now the governor may have his sights set on higher office. Governor Christie, good to see you. Thank you for joining us.
CHRISTIE: Nora, thanks for having me.
O'DONNELL: I want to talk politics in just a minute. But first, I want to get your take on the headlines this morning on Iran. A deal to freeze Iran's nuclear program has fallen apart. How big of a setback do you think this is?
CHRISTIE: Nora, listen, you know, I'm the governor of New Jersey. And I think a lot of people you could have -- and probably will -- on the program -- who are significantly better briefed on this than I am. And I think when -- when guys like me start to shoot off on opinions about this kind of stuff, it's really ill-advised. So I'll leave it to Secretary Kerry and the folks that are in charge of this to make decisions about where we go. And then once they put something together, if they do, then I'll make a judgment on that. But it's -- it's just -- I'm not the right person to be asking that question to, with all due respect.
O'DONNELL: But you're a national political figure. You're a leader in the Republican Party. You may someday run for president. do you have a view about whether Iran should continue to enrich uranium?
CHRISTIE: Well, listen, like I said, I think the folks who are involved in this on a day to day basis should be making those kind of opinions known publicly. For me, I'm the governor of New Jersey and my job is to run the state of New Jersey. And -- and it's just something -- I think, in all seriousness, Nora, that you just -- folks in my position who spout off opinions off the top of their head just wind up doing more harm than good. I'm just not going to engage in that.
O'DONNELL: All right. Let's turn now to politics. Congratulations on your victory this past week. I want to remind our viewers how you won, because you're a Republican and New Jersey is a very blue state. You won 66 percent of Independents. You won 32 percent of Democrats, 51 percent of Hispanic voters and 21 percent of African-American voters. Is there a lesson there for the rest of the Republican Party?
CHRISTIE: Yes, the lesson is to govern, Nora. The lesson is to govern and to show up. And let me explain what I mean. On governing, it's about doing things, accomplishing things, reaching across the aisle and crafting accomplishments. And ours, I think, are significant. You know, 143,000 new private sector jobs in the last four years; a $2.3 billion tax cut to help create those jobs; reforming teacher tenure for the first time in 100 years in New Jersey; reforming a broken pension and benefit system that's going to save $120 billion over the next 30 years; and spending less in this budget year, fiscal year '14, than was spent in New Jersey in fiscal year 2008, six years ago. So you govern. All those are bipartisan accomplishments, because I have a completely Democratic legislature. And showing up, what I mean by that is that you can't just show up six months before an election into groups that have not normally voted for you and expect that they are going to vote for you. I've been working on this for four years, going to places like Irvington, New Jersey, on of our cities where I got 4.7 percent of the vote four years ago. I did a town hall meeting there a year and a half ago. There were more people in the church than voted for me in 2009.
O'DONNELL: Well ---
CHRISTIE: But you go there, you listen and you present your views. And that's the way you bring people into your movement.
O'DONNELL: As you know, Hispanics are the fastest growing demographic in this country. Your party has struggled with the Hispanic vote. Do you believe the Republican Party, Congress, needs to pass an immigration bill in the next 14 months in order to appeal to Hispanic voters?
CHRISTIE: I think that they have to fix a broken immigration system, because it's what right -- it's what's right for our country and what's good for our economy. And that's why they need to fix the current broken immigration system. They shouldn't be viewing it from a political perspective.