In June 2005, 60 Minutes correspondent Steve Kroft sat down for an interview with New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady. The interview took place at Gillette Stadium in Foxboro, Massachusetts. Here is a transcript of that conversation.
STEVE KROFT: Describe yourself.
TOM BRADY: I'm hard working, pretty disciplined, but fun, caring, probably too-sensitive person, who likes to be around his family and friends as much as he can.
KROFT: When you say sensitive, too sensitive, what do you mean?
BRADY: Not too sensitive in the sports world, but just very sensitive. Like on Father's day yesterday, thinking about my Dad, I get choked up. I think I've always been like that. And then I get very fiery on the other side of it. I think there's the two extremes. You know? I can get very sensitive, but at the same time very stubborn, too.
BRADY: Very emotional in everything I do. And I'm pretty low key. It appears that I'm low key on the outside, but definitely not on the inside. A lot of people say, "God, you always look so composed." I'm like, "Man, I was so excited then. You know?"
KROFT: When you talk about being emotional, give me an example.
BRADY: An emotional time that I've had? It was recent. My grandmother passed away, and I was so removed from it because I was 2,500 miles away and it right during the time of the Super Bowl. My parents had gone home to see my grandma, as she kind of passed on. And it was hard for me to be away. But because I wasn't there, I really didn't get the feelings of being there, and seeing her, and seeing the family kinda come together. And then I went home for the funeral, right after the Super Bowl, and as soon as I walked into the funeral home, and I see her in the casket, it was like all these feelings just swung. And I had no idea. I had no way of anticipating that. It was just like wow. I mean, it told me how important she was in my life, and how much I miss her, and how much I was gonna miss her. It was weird, because I'm sitting there crying. And you know, everyone else is pretty composed, I guess, because they had been through it. But all those feelings kinda hit me at once.
KROFT: Get excited about winning a Super Bowl?
BRADY: Yeah, sure do. At the thoughts of winning it. Oh, yeah. Every time, it's been a different feeling, too. It's been the ultimate high. You know, you gotta find a way to, as best you can, keep it in perspective, or else you're just gonna kinda wither off those two months later.
BRADY: Yeah. I hate losing. I hate losing.
KROFT: That's what I hear.
KROFT: That's what your teammates said.
BRADY: When I was growing up, I used to play video games a lot. I mean, I broke more controls. My mom quit buying 'em, because every time I'd get mad, I'd lose a game, and it would be probably against the computer, and I'd throw the remote up against the TV. I mean, I broke a TV. And I broke countless remotes.
I mean, it got to the point, my dad pulled me off the golf course one time when I was eight years old. I mean, eight years old. I swung, hit a bad shot -- it was the seventh hole at the golf course -- and I take my club, and I slam that thing on the ground so hard. And he took me (LAUGHS), he said, "Get your butt in the cart, and we're going home right now." I was so mad that he dragged me off the course. But at the same time, at eight years old, I mean, why would I care that bad about hitting a bad golf shot? But I just, for some reason, I've just been like that.
KROFT: One of your teammates said, "If you walk into a room, and you see backgammon chips scattered all over the floor and the table overturned, they know that you've been there, and probably lost."
BRADY: Yeah. Probably. I'm a pretty good winner. I'm a terrible loser. And I rub it in pretty good when I win. But as soon as I lose, those backgammon sets – I've broken more backgammon sets. I don't know. It's like I wish I had a punching bag nearby sometimes. I can lose it pretty good. It's not something I'm proud of, and I wish I had a lot of ways I could change it. But it's hard.
KROFT: Your sisters say that you'll do anything to compete, that you'll have contests to see who can eat the most salsa without drinking a glass of water. (LAUGHS)
BRADY: That was the most recent with them. Yeah.
KROFT: And one of your teammates said that if you have a roll of duct tape, a pan and a broomstick, you'll figure out some sort of game. (LAUGHS) You'll invent some sort of game to compete with somebody. True?
BRADY: Yeah. I think I'm looking for that little spark. Competing is fun, and I enjoy that. With my sisters, you talk about the salsa, I mean, it was so fun that night. Because we order this big dinner, you know? And the dinner is coming, and someone says, "Well, let's just put some hot sauce in the salsa, and see how hot we can get it, and we'll try it." I have another sister who's very competitive, who's Maureen. It was her graduation when I was home. She goes, "Well, let's go. Alright. Come on." About 40 chips later, and buckets of salsa later, I mean none of us had touched our dinner, cause our mouths were so hot. And you couldn't drink or eat anything to subdue the heat. We didn't drink anything the night. We waited till the morning. We woke up the next morning, and finally it was like, "Man, you gotta have something." She was gonna pass out at her graduation. I thought I was gonna pass out, too. It was so funny.
KROFT: So, you ended up calling off the bet?
BRADY: In the morning, she had a Dr. Pepper. I had a glass of water. She had a Dr. Pepper before she went to the graduation. She was like, "I need something."
KROFT: One of your teammates, the long snapper . . .
BRADY: Lonie [Paxton].
KROFT: Lonie. Lonie was telling us a story about who could hit the pizza box.
BRADY: We went to a concert, Dave Matthews concert. We drove down to one of the arenas down in Providence. We're having a blast. They had this little backstage thing afterwards, where you go in and meet the band. And so, we go down there. The band never showed up. But that didn't matter, because Lonie and I had decided, well, we found like the bottom of a 24 pack of soda. It was like the cardboard. And there was a table. Someone brought a football because they wanted us to sign it. So, I signed it. And we said, "Well," Lonie said, "Well, let's play a little game."
He put the cardboard box up against the table, and he said, "Alright, let's go." So, I'm throwing it. And he's snapping it under his legs. And we keep getting farther and farther, back to all the way across the room. It was probably 30 yards away. Now, 30 other people [are] sitting on these tables, and the ball's flying over the top of their tables. (LAUGHS) And we're trying to hit these cardboard boxes. I mean, it was ridiculous.
KROFT: Did you hit it?
BRADY: Not as often as he did. He's a better throw underhand than I am overhand. He's pretty good. That's why he's one of the best.
KROFT: You've got three Super Bowl rings. You've been voted most valuable player in two of those Super Bowls. You're probably the most glamorous player in the N.F.L., but it hasn't always been like that, right? It hasn't always been easy.
BRADY: No. It's never come easy for me. I don't think my mind allows me to rest ever, or for things to come easy. I have, I think, a chip on my shoulder, and some deep scars that I don't think were healed. That is why I think I motivate myself to get up and continue to work, because I was always the person who was always trying to. And I know everybody has these stories of hardships, but I was always the one that no one ever picked. And like I said, I was the back-up quarterback on the freshman team that didn't win a game. I only played my second year, because my best friend, who was the quarterback, who started ahead of me, he quit playing.
And then finally I get my chance my junior year to play. And we go six and four. My senior year we go five and five. And I'm recruited to go to Michigan, and the only reason they recruited me was 'cause I made a highlight tape. My dad had a highlight tape. You know, I loved playing football, and he wanted me to go and play football. So, he said, "Let's make a highlight." We made like 60 tapes, so we're looking through this book of colleges, and all their athletic department addresses. And I'm sitting there, saying like, "You know, University of U.C., Davis. Let's send one there. Or Saint Mary's College in Moraga."
We get down to Michigan. I said, "Dad, you think we should send one to Michigan?" He's like, "Sure. Yeah." And I'm thinking like, "I can send this, but it's pretty much a waste of a tape." Well, they get the tape. Finally, they offered me a scholarship, and we took a visit back there. "Hey, I'm going to Michigan. This is where I want to be."
Well, I walk in the door. There's another quarterback, who's a great player. He's the sixth quarterback. I'm the seventh, and it was like, "How am I ever gonna play here?" I mean, the guy who's starting was a year ahead of me, who the coach loved, who led us through a bunch of great wins.
KROFT: That being?
BRADY: Scott Dreisbach. His very first game of his career, he led our team back, and threw a game-winning, touchdown pass in front of 112,000 people, with like one second left. And he was from, as far as I'm concerned, he was gonna play for the rest of his career. And I would never get a chance.
It was like, my dad, I remember sitting in the car one time. He had come out to see me play. I said, "Dad, I don't know if I'm ever going to get to play here. I mean, I don't think I'll ever get my chance." And it wasn't a very good attitude. You know?
KROFT: What did your dad say?
BRADY: He said, "You're probably right. You probably won't. You know? You probably won't." And then I said, "Well, where do I want to be? If I could play, where would I want to play?" I had talked to a guy who worked with a lot of the athletes at the school. He was a really neat person, a person I stay in contact with. He used to come and speak in front of our whole team about self-defeating attitudes and behaviors, and how you can beat yourself before you even go out there to compete, not only athletics, but in life. And just the positive attitude, and setting goals, and understanding that the only thing you can control is your attitude. Regardless of any of the other things that happen in your life, there's only so much you can do, and you can control what you can control. And that was my preparation, my effort, my leadership – not how other people affected me, but how I affected them.
KROFT: I want to go back a little bit . . .