"Ten, 11, 12,000 people who had been arrested and gone through you know interrogation or questioning and things like that," Boucek told Martin.
"So they just swept up everybody?" Martin asked.
"There were a lot of people who were, yeah, detained," Boucek replied.
Asked if there is any real organization of al Qaeda left in Saudi Arabia, Boucek said, "There are no first or second tier level operatives in the kingdom. They've all been killed or captured."
"We have hard approach. We have soft approach. Basically developing some programs to prevent this ideology from spreading to the society," Hadlaq explained.
A demonstration of a SWAT operation put on for 60 Minutes by the kingdom's special forces was as close as we could get to the hard approach.
But then the Saudis took 60 Minutes inside a compound on the outskirts of Riyadh and allowed us to get a first hand look at the soft approach.
There we met Dr. Turki Oetayan, a western educated psychologist, greeting men fresh out of Saudi jails.
The men at the compound will spend months listening to lectures until Oetayan and his colleagues declare them free of the impulses which incited them to holy war.
"I was giving them a lecture about the emotions, how they understand anger. I was trying to say anger is not, you know easy to control, especially in their cases," Dr. Oetayan said.
It's very much like anger management.
And then there's art therapy - a surprisingly modern concept introduced by Dr. Awad al Yami into a very conservative society. Dr. Awad says art gives his students a chance to express feelings they're not ready to talk about.