Watch CBS News

Lizzo: "I feel like a master"

For The Record: Lizzo
For The Record: Lizzo 08:33

She's been compared to some of the greatest singers of our time, and now you know why. Her name is Melissa Jefferson, but she's known by her childhood nickname, Lizzo, and you might say this has been her year:

She's still riding the wave of an acclaimed new album, "Cuz I Love You"; and this summer she had the #1 song ("Truth Hurts") AND the cover of Elle magazine.

Plus, she stole the show on MTV's biggest night:

Lizzo Performs 'Truth Hurts' & 'Good As Hell' | 2019 Video Music Awards by MTV on YouTube

At 31, it seems Lizzo has finally arrived, though she's been here all along.

Correspondent Tracy Smith asked, "Do you feel like your career was a slow build or something that happened fairly quickly?"

"It's the slowest build of all time," Lizzo laughed. "It's the slowest burn. I've done so many tours, but nobody knows who I am until this year. But would I have been able to maintain this type of mainstream success ten years ago? Hell to the nah!"

"You needed that ten years?"

"I needed this ten years. I feel like a master."

She's also become a master of the positive attitude. In nearly every show, she leads the audience in her own personal mantra: "I love you ... You are beautiful ... And you can do anything."

Smith asked, "Does it work for you?"

"It works. It works. Because talking bad to yourself works. It's the antidote to, 'So stupid.' It's like, 'No, you deserve this. You're intelligent..' Words are so powerful."

And she knows just how powerful those words can be, after a lifetime spent listening to mean (or even well-meaning) comments about her weight.

"It's like a little mosquito bite. Somebody's like, 'Well, you know, you a big girl, so you can never have short hair. You always have to have a big hair, 'cause you're a big girl.'

"And they say that lovingly, but I'm like, that's a little mosquito bite. You don't even know it's there. But, soon you look up, you're covered in mosquito bites. And you're like, 'Oh my God, I have all of these things.' But they were so normalized to me, because they were so innocent."

"People meant well?" said Smith.

"They meant well. But I had to, like, peel back a lot of layers."

But it didn't start out that way: Lizzo was born in Detroit, and grew up in the Houston suburbs. "I would walk to my best friend's house and we'd play Spice Girls, and we made our own little girl groups."

Revisiting Elsik High School, where she learned flute as a teen, she said that Manny Gonzales, her band director at Elsik, helped give her the focus she needed: "I've had a lot of talks with my band director in here, where he was like, 'You're always late. You're always daydreaming. But, you're so talented. Get it together.' And those talks really impacted me."

"He was formative to you, right?" asked Smith.

"Yes. He was. I mean, he was like … Ahhhh!"

That was when Lizzo saw Gonzales: "Oh, my God! Oh my God!  I'm so good!  Oh, my God! Thank you. Wow, I did it, didn't I?  You told my ass, you were like, 'Get it together girl, 'cause you are special, apply yourself.' Those moments meant so much to me!"

Lizzo is reunited her her school band director Manny Gonzales. CBS News

With Gonzales' help, Lizzo went to the University of Houston on a music scholarship, majoring in classical flute. But two years into her university studies, she dropped out of school. Her father, Michael, who battling congestive heart failure, urged her to stay with the flute.

"He wanted me to perform and wear the little lavalier mike and just be playin' through a synth," she said. "And he wanted me to innovate flute. And I was like, 'I'm gonna do all of this.' And his health just declined and declined and declined. And I really just wanted to be able to afford to take care of him. I wanted to save him."

Michael Jefferson died in 2010, and Lizzo's world crumbled.

"And they're like, 'There's nothing anyone can do.' And that, aw, it pissed me off, I was so mad. I'm like, 'What do you mean there's nothing anyone can do?'" she said, devolving into tears.

After composing herself, Lizzo explained: "I think sometimes I get angry instead of sad, because it's, like, a defense mechanism, to be strong."

"And you want to be strong?" asked Smith.

"Yeah. Well, I have to be. Like, I have to be strong. 'Cause, like, life really doesn't give you an opportunity to show vulnerability. Life doesn't really give you a chance to let your guard down."

Lizzo performs "My Skin":

Lizzo - My Skin (Official Video) by Lizzo Music on YouTube

Eventually, she picked herself up and started climbing the rungs of a music career, through bouts of poverty, homelessness, and crippling self-doubt.

She says her career finally took off once she started to believe that beauty doesn't have a size.

Smith asked, "You've said you've struggled with self-confidence. How did you change it?"

"It's not something that you really change; it's something that you address and work on," she replied. "I had to address every layer of insecurity. Cause I can't just be like, 'Alright, my arm's not jiggly and lumpy anymore.' That's delusional. You have to be like, 'That's not ugly to me anymore. and it's not wrong to me, it's beautiful to me,' 

"And I think that is why I'm able to call myself fat. And people are like, 'No! Even my friends. I'll be like, 'Well, bitch, you know I'm fat.' And I'm like, 'Don't say no. I am fat. I am beautiful.' I think it's because I learned to actually look all of my insecurities in the face, call them by their name, and fall in love with them."

"Which is a process – this hasn't ended yet, right?" Smith asked.

"It ain't over."

"It's a daily exercise?"

"I'm still doing it. Right now!"

Last month, Lizzo went back to the University of Houston, and got a reception worthy of a superstar. 

The school's most famous dropout has become a role model. Speaking to music students she said, "You're not supposed to be happy all the time. You're not supposed to know what you're doing all the time. Especially at this age. But not knowing what you're doing has nothing to do with where you're going. So, I want you to know that: cherish your journey and respect your journey. And keep playing your instrument, man, 'cause people jealous of me 'cause I still play the flute!"

Flute master Lizzo returns to the University of Houston.  CBS News

You could say this is Lizzo's moment, and it's one she wants to share with the world.

"And hopefully by existing, there can just be more opportunities for people that look like me that are, you know, beyond what a trend is," she said. "And that they're there on the merit of their talent. They're there on the merit of their beauty. And they're there because they're good enough."

"Just like you are?" asked Smith.

"Yeah, I'm more than – I'm great!" she smiled.

For an extended profile of Lizzo by Tracy Smith click on the video player below: 

Extended Video: Lizzo 19:07

To watch an extended conversation with Lizzo, click on the video player below, or read the extended transcript

Web Exclusive: Extended conversation with Lizzo 28:52

You can stream Lizzo's album "Cuz I Love You" by clicking on the embed below (Free Spotify registration required to hear the tracks in full):


For more info:

Produced by John D'Amelio. Thanks to editor Ed Givnish. 

View CBS News In
CBS News App Open
Chrome Safari Continue
Be the first to know
Get browser notifications for breaking news, live events, and exclusive reporting.