"We all knew before seeing that movie that they make it back," he said. "But it's how they make it back, how they reached inside of their own soul to find resources that they never thought existed, [that] was sort of the same thing that Veronica de Negri did when she was tortured in Chile. I met her probably 10, 12 years before that. So you often don't know how these little dots get connected when you're on this journey of curiosity."
Ron Howard came along on a few curiosity conversations, but just out of curiosity.
"These conversations are never about earning favors, or asking for any kind of business advantage," Howard said. "It's really an honest conversation."
Grazer's Beverly Hills home is airy, sleek, and tastefully plush. But he keeps a touch of boyhood in the backyard. The swing, he says, "has symbolic value. It completely connects to innocence and childhood and naivete and safety."
It's something Simon can't resist. "Forgive me, can I just take a little -- "
"Go for it!" said Grazer. "I love that you're doing this."
The swing looks like the gateway to a curious mind.
For more info:
- "A Curious Mind: The Secret to a Bigger Life" by Brian Grazer and Charles Fishman (Simon & Schuster); Also available in eBook, Unabridged Audio Download, and Unabridged Audio CD formats
- Follow @BrianGrazer on Twitter
- "Weekend Edition Saturday" - Hosted by Scott Simon (NPR)
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