Former Army medic Jeremy Smith was wounded and paralyzed in Afghanistan. Clearly qualified for both medical and pension benefits, Smith was surprised when a Veteran's Affairs counselor told him he wasn't disabled enough for vocational benefits.
"How can I not be disabled enough? How much more disabled do I need to be," Smith asked. "Should I go throw myself under a bus real quick?"
Brandon Frazier has a similar story. A veteran of the 2004 Marine assault on Fallujah, Brandon suffered hearing loss and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, PTSD.
But as CBS News correspondent Wyatt Andrews reports, a VA counselor wrongly told him the VA would not help disabled vets study pre-law.
"It didn't seem like he was in there to find a way to help me. He was there to tell me I couldn't," Frazier said.
"Looking for a way to turn you down," Andrews asked?
"Right," he replied.
Then there is Kenny Lyon. A Marine sergeant, whose miraculous battlefield rescue in Iraq - and 2 year fight to recover - was profiled on "60 Minutes."
Lyon had to fight the VA for five months - but after being finally told he would get vocational benefits to study at Gettysburg College, the VA called to say stop.
"I was on my way to classes and I got a phone call saying it was not approved," Lyon said.
"You weren't getting the tuition," Andrews asked.
"Yes," Lyon replied.
The VA benefits these veterans requested are from a program called Vocational Rehabilitation and Employment, or Voc Rehab benefits. Separate from the GI Bill,Voc Rehab helps disabled vets get whatever training they need to live on their own or get a job. When it works, which is most of the time, Voc Rehab services range from sign language lessons to technical classes to Harvard Law School.
But in a two-month investigation, CBS News found story after story of veterans who were wrongly denied benefits, veterans who even under the complex rules, should have qualified.
"It makes me question everything I've done," Smith said. "Was it right, was it worth it?"
Voc Rehab does serve more than 100,000 disabled veterans. But in the last two years, the number of new applicants soared - up 28 percent - to more than 78,000 last year alone. The VA claims it successfully rehabilitates 75 percent of the veterans admitted to the system.
"This is an excellent program," said Ruth Fanning, the program's director.
"Is 75 percent good enough," Andrews asked.
"Seventy-five percent is a good number for rehabilitation programs and it represents veterans who have completed the program," Fanning replied.
But by not counting the veterans, like Smith and Frazier, who apply but don't get into the program, the VA is overstating its success. Two years ago, the VA's Inspector General said if every veteran who applied was counted, that success rate could be as low as 18 percent.
"I am asking about veterans who walk in and get what they see as - dismissed by the case officer," Andrews said.
"It's an excellent point," Fanning said. "If a veteran is out there who is not happy who feels he or she wasn't well served, we want to hear from them.
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The number of veterans not well served, could easily be in the thousands. Last year, as applications surged, the General Accounting Office said most Voc Rehab regional offices had "fewer counselors than they need."
When the VA moved to hire outside counselors in 2008, it gave a contract in 44 states to one company, Heritage of America, that had no staff in most of the areas awarded.
Vicki Oleson and dozens of Heritage counselors stopped being paid. Which meant many stopped giving the tests veterans need to get into Voc Rehab. Heritage blames those payment problems on the VA, but declined to speak to CBS News on-camera.
Meanwhile, Kenny Lyon whose application was bogged down during the contract fight, had a connection at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, who helped restore his benefits.
"That's what scares me," Lyon said. "Is that somebody who is not as connected could get told 'no' and accept that."
It was designed as a nation's welcome home, a way to help disabled warriors return to work. But today's Voc Rehab program is often uneven. Some veterans are approved for Harvard - others randomly rejected.