"As you well know, Monday is the fifth anniversary of 9/11. And so many Americans are thinking about that day. And I'm just wondering what your thoughts are as we approach that anniversary," Couric asked the president.
"Well, you know, I make a — I approach it with mixed emotions. I remember the horror. And I remember the, you know, the loss of life. I also remember the lessons. And September the 11th affected my thinking," Mr. Bush replied. "It basically changed my attitude about the world. And I resolved around that time that I would do everything to protect the American people. And it, frankly, has defined much of how I think as the president. And, so, for me, it's not just a moment. You know, it's really been a change of life."
The president also acknowledged that the attacks caused a major shift of his philosophy of the world.
"Well, it reminded me that we're in a major struggle with extremists. You know, when you really think about why would somebody kill 3,000 Americans? And I realized the struggle was more than just defeating an al Qaeda," Mr. Bush said. "It is really an ideological war between extremism and moderation and reasonableness. And it's been a — it was a profound moment. … But it was no more profound than the — the thousands of our citizens who lost a loved one. And so September the 11th is gonna be a sad moment, a day of remembrance and a day of commitment."
"You have said, Mr. President, that America is safer but we are not yet safe," Couric remarked. "When you think about the threats out there, what is your biggest fear?"
"Well, my biggest fear is somebody will come in and slip in this country and kill Americans. And I can't tell you how. Obviously there would be the spectacular. That would be the use of some kind of biological weapon or weapon of mass destruction. But as we learned recently from the British plots, people were, you know, gonna get on airplanes and blow up airplanes with innocent people flying to America," Mr. Bush replied. "And, you know, one way to look at it is we have to be right 100 percent of the time in order to protect this country, and they gotta be right once. And it's just a fact of life. We're facing an enemy, Katie, that just doesn't care about innocent life. I mean, they really are evil people."
Speaking about Iraq, Couric noted that the president considers Iraq the central front in the war against terrorism.
"And I'm wondering, Mr. President, if sometimes in your private moments you feel incredible frustration that this war is not going better. And frustration that public support for it has eroded pretty significantly in recent months," Couric asked.
"Well, first of all, I do think Iraq is a central front in the war on terror and so does Osama bin Laden," Mr. Bush replied. "Now, there's been some good moments and some bad moments in Iraq. And there's been some highlights. Twelve million people voting for a government under a modern constitution."
After speaking about the positive developments in Iraq, the president acknowledged that there are negative things that frustrate him in the conflict.
"Starting with the death of innocent people and our soldiers. That's the hardest thing for me," the president said. "I meet with a lot of the families. And I do the best I can to cry with them or, you know, laugh with them if they wanna laugh and hug them. One thing most have said to me is 'Don't leave before this job gets done.' They understand the stakes and so do our soldiers. And the stakes are these: That if we leave before the job is done, an enemy that has attacked us will be emboldened. Allies and moderate people will wonder where America's soul is."
"Does it concern you," Couric asked, "as we walk this corridor and see portraits of people like President Reagan, for whom your dad worked as vice president, some of your father's close colleagues have criticized the war in Iraq or efforts, particularly Brent Scowcroft, his former national security advisor, very publicly saying in 2004, 'Iraq is a failing venture'?"
"Yeah," Mr. Bush said. "Does it bother me? Nah, not really. When you do hard things, people are gonna criticize you. The American people expect me to make decisions based upon principle, to deal with the threats that face our nation — not to worry about criticism. Of course I listen to it. That's part of the job."