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July 16, 2009 4:07 AM

Sotomayor Ducks Questions About Gun Rights

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Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor refused on Wednesday to elaborate on her views about firearms regulations and the Second Amendment, saying she would "make no prejudgments" about future firearms-related cases.

President Obama's first nominee to the high court did say that she believed Americans do not currently enjoy a fundamental right to bear arms, which echoes her two previous rulings on the topic as an appeals court judge.

Existing Supreme Court decisions indicate the Second Amendment only limits "the actions the federal government could take with respect to the possession of firearms" and can't be used to strike down broad state laws, Sotomayor told the Senate Judiciary Committee on Wednesday.

Last year, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual right from overreaching federal laws (and in federal enclaves like the District of Columbia). The case is called D.C. v. Heller.

But the justices chose not to rule on the broader question of whether the Second Amendment's guarantee of the right to keep and bear arms applies to state laws. Attorneys in two cases raising that question -- including an appeal of Sotomayor's January 2009 decision -- have petitioned for Supreme Court review in the last few weeks, and another petition is likely by the end of the summer.

Because Sotomayor has not clarified her position on gun rights, and has declined repeated invitations to do so during this week's Senate hearing, advocacy groups have turned to her written opinions and the president's own record on firearm regulation. (This parallels the abortion question: While Sotomayor parried those questions on Wednesday, the White House had previously reassured liberal groups that she would be a staunch pro-choice vote on the court.)

The results were predictable. The Brady Campaign on Tuesday formally endorsed Sotomayor, saying her opinions show respect "for precedent and for the considered judgments of legislative bodies in protecting communities from gun violence."

And Wayne LaPierre, the National Rifle Association's executive vice president, wrote after Tuesday's hearing that: "The Supreme Court is compelled to respect the Second and Fourteenth Amendments and to interpret and apply them correctly. The cases in which Judge Sotomayor and her colleagues have mishandled these issues raise serious questions about her fitness to serve on the highest Court in the land."

So far, the NRA has not formally opposed Sotomayor's nomination, even though past president Sandy Froman has called on NRA members to do so, and other gun rights groups including the Second Amendment Foundation have.

If the NRA chooses to take that step, it could cost Sotomayor some Senate votes, especially from senators in more rural states. (One aspect of this week's hearing worth noting is that liberal Democrats like Patrick Leahy and Russ Feingold have taken pains to stress their support for gun rights.)

Then again, losing a few votes isn't the same as losing the nomination. The Sotomayor hearing continues on Thursday morning at 9:30 a.m. ET with approximately 30 more witnesses, including ex-NRA president Froman, gun rights advocate David Kopel, and Ilya Somin, an assistant professor of law at George Mason University who has written critically about firearm restrictions in the past.



Addendum: To avoid revealing her own beliefs, Judge Sotomayor has resorted to lectures that seem straight out of law school, at the cost of clarity. Read on for excerpts from her exchange on Wednesday with Sen. Tom Coburn, a Republican from Oklahoma who is also a medical doctor.

COBURN: Do I have a right to personal self-defense?

SOTOMAYOR: I'm trying to think if I remember a case where the Supreme Court has addressed that particular question. Is there a constitutional right to self-defense? And I can't think of one. I could be wrong, but I can't think of one.

SOTOMAYOR: Generally, as I understand, most criminal law statutes are passed by states. And I'm also trying to think if there's any federal law that includes a self-defense provision or not. I just can't...

COBURN: But do you have an opinion, or can you give me your opinion, of whether or not in this country I personally, as an individual citizen, have a right to self-defense?

SOTOMAYOR: I -- as I said, I don't know.

COBURN: I'm talking about your...

SOTOMAYOR: I don't know if that legal question has been ever presented.

COBURN: I wasn't asking about the legal question. I'm asking about your personal opinion.

SOTOMAYOR: But that is sort of an abstract question with no particular meaning to me outside of...

COBURN: Well, I think that's what American people want to hear, Your Honor, is they want to know. Do they have a right to personal self-defense?...

Those are the kind of things people would like for us to answer and would like to know, not how you would rule or what you're going to rule, but -- and specifically what you think about, but just yes or no. Do we have that right?

SOTOMAYOR: I know it's difficult to deal with someone as a -- like a judge who's so sort of -- whose thinking is so cornered by law.

COBURN: I know. It's hard.

SOTOMAYOR: Could I...

COBURN: Kind of like a doctor. I can't quit using doctor terms.

SOTOMAYOR: Exactly. That's exactly right, but let me try to address what you're saying in the context that I can, OK, which is what I have experience with, all right, which is New York criminal law, because I was a former prosecutor. And I'm talking in very broad terms.

But, under New York law, if you're being threatened with eminent death or very serious injury, you can use force to repel that, and that would be legal. The question that would come up, and does come up before juries and judges, is how eminent is the threat...

If I go home, get a gun, come back and shoot you, that may not be legal under New York law because you would have alternative ways to defend...

COBURN: You'll have lots of 'splainin' to do.

SOTOMAYOR: I'd be in a lot of trouble then. But I couldn't do that under a definition of self-defense. And so, that's what I was trying to explain in terms of why, in looking at this as a judge, I'm thinking about how that question comes up and how the answer can differ so radically, given the hypothetical facts before you.

COBURN: Yes. You know...

SOTOMAYOR: Or not the...

COBURN: The problem is is we think -- we doctors think like doctors. Hard to get out of the doctor skin. Judges thing like judges. Lawyers think like lawyers.

And what American people want to see is inside and what your gut says. And part of that's why we're having this hearing.
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by erasmus111 July 16, 2009 7:26 PM EDT
by nunovyerbeezwax July 16, 2009 7:09 PM EDT
I doubt it. I just started posting here. Why do you ask?


Your "style" is familiar. : ) People leave and return with new names, I just thought that maybe you were someone I knew.
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by erasmus111 July 16, 2009 6:22 PM EDT
nunovyerbeezwax

Do I know you?
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by erasmus111 July 16, 2009 5:40 PM EDT
by gunownerdan July 16, 2009 4:44 PM EDT

COBURN: But do you have an opinion, or can you give me your opinion, of whether or not in this country I personally, as an individual citizen, have a right to self-defense?


The problem is that everyone has a different view on what self-defense is.

Like the old guy that phoned 911 saying that burglars were breaking into the house next door. He tells them that he needs to protect himself and that he is going to go out and shoot them. They said, "Stay in the house! Do not go outside!" But he did go outside, AFTER he told them he was going to shoot them. And that is exactly what he did. They weren't even in his yard.

Is that what is called self-defense?
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by erasmus111 July 16, 2009 5:44 PM EDT
That is what I call MURDER.
by ken1dall July 16, 2009 5:08 PM EDT
If the Demokrats, Holder, Sotomayer, and the rest of the left-wing goonies try to disarm peaceful citizens they will reap the biggest shyt storm seen since the American Revolution.
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by gunownerdan July 16, 2009 4:44 PM EDT
COBURN: But do you have an opinion, or can you give me your opinion, of whether or not in this country I personally, as an individual citizen, have a right to self-defense?

SOTOMAYOR: I -- as I said, I don't know.


WRONG ANSWER!
Yup, she's a freedom-hating enemy of liberty.
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by erasmus111 July 16, 2009 3:59 PM EDT
by gunownerdan July 16, 2009 3:43 PM EDT
By the way, if humans never figured out how to make our own weapons, we wouldn't be any different from a chimp swinging around in the trees trying not to get eaten by predators.


Maybe that is the way it should have stayed. Then it was hunting for "food" or protecting yourself from being food. Now it's about killing because someone doesn't like you setting off fireworks, or because you got fired from a job. The list is endless. Animals kill for food.
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by gunownerdan July 16, 2009 3:52 PM EDT
Sotomayor certainly looks pretty bad, and in more ways than one.
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by erasmus111 July 16, 2009 3:56 PM EDT
Not everyone can look as good as you, I guess.
by erasmus111 July 16, 2009 3:49 PM EDT
by gunownerdan July 16, 2009 3:36 PM EDT
The ability to made our own weapons is what made us who we are today.


Exactly. Take a look around you. Are things looking good to you?
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by erasmus111 July 16, 2009 3:53 PM EDT
It was one thing to make clubs or spears etc., to hunt for food and protect ourselves that way, but the making of guns made killing way too easy.
by jankebenzone July 16, 2009 3:22 PM EDT
by jankebenzone July 16, 2009 3:08 PM EDT
by nunovyerbeezwax July 16, 2009 2:56 PM EDT
And where do you see Sotomayor advocating more gun laws? I didn't hear her say that.
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Thats because you have "lib" hearing and only listen to what interests your ideology. Good hearing also means being able to decipher what was'nt said. Sorry, spelling mistake.
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by erasmus111 July 16, 2009 3:20 PM EDT
by gunownerdan July 16, 2009 1:39 PM EDT
In nature, self defense is the reason why elephants have evolved to have long tusks, or why rhinos have big sharp horns.
And look at the teeth on a dog, those k-9's can rip your throat right out!
Too bad we can't ban teeth and horns, huh gun haters?


Re-read what you just said. All these things that these animals have are natural. They are born with these things to defend themselves. People weren't born with guns. (Well, maybe you were.) : ) Anyways, if we were meant to have guns, we would be born with them. These animals use what they have to protect themselves. People were meant to do the same. Guns change who people are.
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by gunownerdan July 16, 2009 3:36 PM EDT
The making and use of tools is what sets us(or most of us) apart from basically every other animal. A million years ago we relied on weaponsm and tools we made from stone, bone, and wood. The ability to made our own weapons is what made us who we are today.
by gunownerdan July 16, 2009 3:43 PM EDT
By the way, if humans never figured out how to make our own weapons, we wouldn't be any different from a chimp swinging around in the trees trying not to get eaten by predators.
by jankebenzone July 16, 2009 3:08 PM EDT
by nunovyerbeezwax July 16, 2009 2:56 PM EDT
And where do you see Sotomayor advocating more gun laws? I didn't hear her say that.
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Thats because you have "lib" hearing and only listen to what interests your ideology. Good hearing also means being able to deciever what was'nt said.
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by Joe_NY_15 July 16, 2009 3:03 PM EDT
by nunovyerbeezwax July 16, 2009 2:58 PM EDT
Oooh, a "flamming" one, huh?

As one Senator commented, an "activist" judge is just one that makes decisions you don't like. Boo hoo.
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Well that Senator is talking nonsense.....An activist justice is one that tries to insert their own liberal agenda and idea of social justice into their decisions, instead of applying the law blindly.....an activist "legislates" from the bench, which is a violation of the seperation of powers.....it has nothing to do with someone liking the ruling.

She already admitted she legislates from the bench as an activist...."We make policy"....remember that ?

NO YOU DON'T MAKE POLICY, WISE LATINA
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by jankebenzone July 16, 2009 2:52 PM EDT
We only have to look to our northern neighbor Canada to see first hand what gun laws accomplish. Now only the criminals have guns and murder by shooting is way up.
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by beaumuff July 16, 2009 2:36 PM EDT
SNL should have a field day with this woman."I said that but I really meant this".
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by beaumuff July 16, 2009 2:39 PM EDT
Dan, she avoided a direct answer to about every question. Why are they wasting time and money on this anyway? Obama has his puppet in place right where he wants her, lets move on.
by Joe_NY_15 July 16, 2009 2:47 PM EDT
You forget that Sotomayor is a flamming liberal activist, so SNL will give her a pass....maybe after she's approved, then it's ok....they rarely poke fun at "their own"
by gunownerdan July 16, 2009 2:00 PM EDT
Who can better explain the meaning of the second amendment than some of the very people who made it all possible in the first place?

"To disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them."
- George Mason

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed -- unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
- James Madison

"No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- President Thomas Jefferson

"The Constitution shall never be construed... to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
- Samuel Adams

"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
- Alexander Hamilton

"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
- Patrick Henry

"The peaceable part of mankind will be continually overrun by the vile and abandoned, while they neglect the means of self defense."
- Thomas Paine

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will find themselves plowing for those who didn't."
- Benjamin Franklin
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by chonder2 July 16, 2009 1:58 PM EDT
And Coburn didn't even do his " Jose Jimenez" immitation yet!
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by pubsnomore July 16, 2009 1:56 PM EDT
I have to laugh when each of these RePigSlobs tries to fool SotoMayor into answering the way they want, and she simply rejects them altogether and kicks them down the road....just like America did in 2006 and 2008. LOL!!!
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by beaumuff July 16, 2009 2:21 PM EDT
Yea it is a hoot. If you can't answer just babble. Another great pick by Obama. One thing is for sure, she either lied when she made her comments, or she is lying now. which way is it? "I said that but I meant this" came up all to often. Say what you mean or shut up.
by gunownerdan July 16, 2009 1:53 PM EDT
Who better to explain the meaning of our second amendment than the very people who made it all possible in the first place?

"The peaceable part of mankind will be continually overrun by the vile and abandoned, while they neglect the means of self defense."
- Thomas Paine, The Writings of Thomas Paine, Vol. I

"To disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them."
- George Mason

"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
- Patrick Henry

"No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- President Thomas Jefferson

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed -- unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
- James Madison

"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
- Alexander Hamilton

"The Constitution shall never be construed... to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
- Samuel Adams
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by gunownerdan July 16, 2009 1:43 PM EDT
"...the right to defend one's home and one's person when attacked has been guaranteed through the ages by common law."
-- Martin Luther King, Jr.

"The principle of self-defense, even involving weapons and bloodshed, has never been condemned, even by Gandhi..."
-- Martin Luther King, Jr.

"Finally, I contended that the debate over the question of self-defense was unnecessary since few people suggested that Negroes should not defend themselves as individuals when attacked."
-- Martin Luther King, Jr.
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by gunownerdan July 16, 2009 1:44 PM EDT
Please learn about the racist and hateful history of gun control in America. Watch "NO GUNS FOR NEGROES" for free at JPFO.org or on youtube!
by gunownerdan July 16, 2009 1:39 PM EDT
In nature, self defense is the reason why elephants have evolved to have long tusks, or why rhinos have big sharp horns.
And look at the teeth on a dog, those k-9's can rip your throat right out!
Too bad we can't ban teeth and horns, huh gun haters?
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by gunownerdan July 16, 2009 2:06 PM EDT
Why do so many democrats think convicted felons should have a right to vote? If they are good enough to vote then why aren't they good enough to own guns?
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