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April 3, 2009 1:01 PM

Mexico's Dangerous Illegal Economy

(CBS)
When I first saw the images of bloodied bodies and heard the tales of severed heads coming out of Mexico, I was riveted. It reminded me of Iraq, the shock value of chopping off heads and leaving the bodies on display, as powerful in Mexico as it was on the streets of Baghdad or Mosul or Falluja.

But when I went to Mexico, what I discovered was even more disturbing, as unsettling as the savage nature of the violence is to anyone.

It’s not as dramatic, but just as dangerous. And it was explained to me like this:

Mexico has two economies – the legal economy and the illegal one. The problem is that Mexico’s illegal economy, (fueled by drug trafficking) is worth billions – far more than the legal economy.

And where you have two economies, you have two states, each with a ruling power. Those in charge of Mexico’s legal state, the officially elected government, are not as powerful as those in charge of Mexico’s illegal narco-state – the drug cartels.

Not only do the drug cartels enjoy vastly greater revenues and wealth than the government – they can choose how to spend their money with no regard to civil considerations. They do not have to worry about health care or education or the people that elected them. They spend only to ensure their hold on power continues. They serve only themselves.


Photos: Mexico Border Violence
Drug-related violence along the U.S.-Mexico border has spiked in recent months(Photo: AP)

And one of the main ways in which they serve their own interests is weapons. The drug cartels are better armed, and better equipped than Mexico’s army and police.

So you have an illegal state co-existing with the official state, but it is more powerful, richer and vastly better armed, accountable to no one.

While the Mexican army stands accused of human rights abuses and Mexican police and officials are discredited by corruption, the drug cartels chop off people’s heads, murder and kidnap at will and dissolve people in acid … with no one to hold them to account.

Until Mexican President Felipe Calderon decided he was going to be the one to do this and has been using the army – and U.S. intelligence assets – to some effect against the cartels.

He has taken down some of their most powerful leaders. What remains to be seen is what it will take to bring down an entire cartel – if that is even possible. And how quickly leaders are being replaced, so far appears to limit the effectiveness of the government strategy.

The possibility remains that it will work over time, if the pressure is relentless … and if President Calderon survives.

But the Mexican war on drugs will never be won as long as the focus remains on weapons coming from the U.S. and nothing is done about the weapons flooding into Mexican ports from the black markets of Latin America, China and Russia.

Much is being made of the fact that the U.S. is supposedly responsible for 90 percent of the weapons fuelling Mexico’s drug war.

That is the official statistic being peddled by the Mexican government – their foreign minister, Patricia Espinosa, repeated it when I sat down to interview her the day before U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, quoted the same statistic on her first official visit.

The problem with that statistic is that it is only partially true.

There is a word missing – and that word is "traced."

The U.S. is responsible for over 90 percent of the traced firearms found in Mexico, but the vast majority of guns recovered in Mexico are not sent back to the U.S. to be traced because they are obviously made somewhere else.

Mexico is a virtual arms bazaar with weapons, like their illegal drugs, pouring into Mexican ports. And most importantly, the most powerful weapons like rocket propelled grenades, hand grenades and fully automatic assault weapons – are all illegal in the U.S. These are not weapons that can be bought over the counter in Texas and smuggled illegally into Mexico.

Yet these are the weapons being used to the most deadly effect by the drug cartels, these are the weapons that make them more of a force than the Mexican police and army – these are the weapons at the heart of the bloodshed threatening the legitimate state.

So while the U.S. is right to take responsibility for its part in the drug violence, the problem will not be resolved by looking solely to the U.S.

Mexican authorities have to look at their own ports, and the routes from the ports across their country to the U.S. border. The cocaine being smuggled into the U.S. across the Mexican border has often travelled across Mexico to get there. More effort needs to be made to stop it along the way.

And more attention needs to be given to the growing power of the narco-state that is using its influence to undermine the official state. Journalists have been paid (and threatened) to plant stories of human rights abuses by Mexican soldiers in the media. There is obviously a campaign underway to undermine the authority of the Mexican government – but less obvious, the campaign to undermine the government’s credibility.

This is what makes the legitimate Mexican state so vulnerable.

And it’s what makes Mexico’s drug problem even more urgent.
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by patriot2381 April 11, 2009 8:48 AM EDT
So... NAFTA does not help Mexico or USA after all is said and done.
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by MaineiacinAK April 8, 2009 6:31 PM EDT
Yeah but, Obama and Hillary said so. Don't expect these folks who don't know anything about firearms and support Obama without question to believe anything but the Party Line.
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by leopard_colony April 6, 2009 4:14 PM EDT
Yes, weapons going south to Mexico do come from our country. But from our MILITARY, not gun shops. Cartels are buying real assault weapons, rockets, grenades,etc. Not the castrated copies of assault weapons in gun stores. Here is the evidence:

First Secretary of State let slip that machine guns (assault weapons), rocket launchers, and grenades were going south. Only the military is allowed to possess functional weapons such as these. See:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2009/03/26/2009-03-26_secretary_of_state_hillary_clintons_call.html

Second examination of captured arms shows US Military origin. See:
http://www.10news.com/news/19071202/detail.html#-
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/02/myth-percent-guns-mexico-fraction-number-claimed/

Further there is evidence that military weapons are coming from South America, which may include US Military arms:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-mexico-arms-race15-2009mar15,0,229992.story
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by MaineiacinAK April 5, 2009 10:21 PM EDT
Be just as sick and dead if you eat at Dunkin Donuts and McDonald's every day. That's why I don't do drugs or eat there even weekly. I like being healthy and alive.
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by MaineiacinAK April 5, 2009 10:20 PM EDT
Not necessarily time to regain our streets and sanity, but definitely time to stop trying to prevent idiots from being idiots.

Let them go. Legalize all of it. Nothing related to drugs should be illegal. Want to die? Go for it. Want to screw yourself up, and be sick? Go for it. We shouldn't be putting people in jail to prevent them from doing themselves in. Let them go.

For a few years, we'll have to pick some bodies up from various places, wherever they happen to drop. Then that will slow down and we'll be better off than we've been in many years. We'll still have to occasional bum around to look at, to serve as an example for the kids... "See? Hey, look at the high junkie over there, staggering around and laying here and about. Do drugs, end up there. Simple."

Tired of spending time and resources trying to keep those who should likely be allowed to kill themselves alive. Leave them to it.
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by msmabuse April 5, 2009 11:11 AM EDT
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Soon we may see Obama?s Mandatory Volunteerism Plan come to light. Sound oxymoronic doesn?t it? Mandatory Volunteer?
Somehow last week both houses of congress pushed forward an expansion of the Americorps national service plan. If you recall last year, the Obamassiah proposed a civilian national security force that?s ?just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded? as the U.S. military.
The legislation included this language: ?a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people.? In other words, start the goose stepping when they?re young, and expand the boots on the street. That?s right, Obama wants his own civilian army of young people. Does that ring any historical bells with anyone? How about the guy with the funny moustache?
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by PacificGatePost April 4, 2009 10:51 PM EDT
THE WAR ON DRUGS IS A WAR ON OUR OWN SOCIETY

Prohibition strains the Constitution and The War on Drugs has been a misguided failure. END IT.

http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2009/04/war-on-drugs-time-for-change.html

Time to regain control of our streets and our sanity.
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by MaineiacinAK April 4, 2009 8:13 PM EDT
Talk about misleading statements!

"not U.S.-style mall shootings, schoolyard massacres or road rage "

Buddy. Best learn some things before you go making a public fool of yourself.

Here's a nice source of information for you:

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_reported/violent_crime/murder.html

Go there, and come back here and repeat that foolishness. Road rage shootings, school shootings, and shopping mall shootings, while sensational and definitely gratifying to gun grabbers so they can dance in the blood screeching, "We told you! We told you!", and "Why don't you care? Why won't you give up those icky guns?"

The facts are:

The vast majority of murders involve other crimes, and other criminals. Drug shootings in cities are rampant. We're suffering the same things Mexico is, and in numbers that area as great. Fact is, that scum is spreading across the border. We've had numbers of home invasions, kidnappings, and drive by shootings related to Mexican drug traffickers in the border communities.

Be better off if people in cities would learn to not shoot each other as well. Most of us seem to get along pretty good here in Maine and Alaska. We don't shoot each other in great numbers, and neither does anyone else in this country.

80 MILLION people own somewhere between 250 and 900 MILLION firearms in the United States. I'd say we're a pretty peaceable and law abiding group of people as a whole.
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by roblin2005 April 4, 2009 3:23 PM EDT
"uncontrollable breeding", american_11-2009

I am not sure how this statement affects the argument of the posted article, however let me try to decipher a counter argument. Perhaps if Mexico had more gay marriages and more children born to single welfare parents out of wedlock, then they could control the breeding. Perhaps they have better "breeding" stock?

Furthermore, does the welfare environment that handily supports single parent families also support an environment of drug use and abuse?

So, is Mexico created a welfare state for single, unwed mothers to have children out of wedlock, then they could possibly cut down on the "uncontrollable breeding." And if this environment promoted a drug culture of drug use and abuse, then Mexico could keep the drugs in Mexico and not have to send them to the US?
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by chusanroad April 4, 2009 2:42 PM EDT
A previous commenter made a somewhat misleading claim that "...the murder rate in Mexico is considerably higher than that in the U.S."

True, the latest comprehensive data available from the United Nations Survey of Crime report Mexico's overall murder rate as 13 per 100,000 people, compared with 4 per 100,000 in the United States. However, an estimated 90 percent of Mexico's murders are specifically drug-related ? not U.S.-style mall shootings, schoolyard massacres or road rage ? and concentrated in five of its 31 states, leaving the rest of the country freer of crime than most of the United States.

While alarmists admonish travelers to avoid Mexico at all costs, people actually returning from vacations in Mexico tell a different story. Last month, Funjet Vacations surveyed more than 900 tourists who visited between October 2008 and March 2009; 97 percent said they would return and 90 percent said they felt "safe and secure."

I am one of those travellers who recently drove 6,000 miles over a four week period in Central Mexico with my wife and two children. "Safe and secure" is what we felt in all but the border crossing towns. In those instances it was "eyes wide open" and "daylight only." Kinda like a tourist in New York City.
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by BOATLOUIE69 April 4, 2009 11:48 AM EDT
Wrong Mrs Logan, I just spent 6 month in Mexico and it appear you didn't do your research that well. Drug problem yes, to the degree you paint it, no way. CBS has always been a very trusted news source. These kind of half way researched reports put me more in mind of Bill Oriley on FOX than Walter Cronkite on CBS. Please quit worrying about rating and go back to reporting the truth.
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by legacyabq April 4, 2009 11:36 AM EDT
Posted by edblvgtbl2 at 8:11 AM

Ahh.. From poetry to prose, I see!

Nice! I like!

;-)
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by johnb8888 April 4, 2009 10:46 AM EDT
"Where would Mexico's "Illegal Economy" be without the USA's Illegal Consumption? Though both countries have massive dual economies, none produces more violence than that of the USA. You can feel safer in more Mexican communities than you will be in most US urban centers.
Posted by chusanroad


Actually the murder rate in Mexico is considerably higher than that in the US, despite Mexico's "strict" gun control.
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by leopard_colony April 4, 2009 10:24 AM EDT
Thank you very, very, much. This was very well researched and written. Again, thank you. I have found a slip of the tongue by Secretary of State Clinton. She stated that machine guns (assault weapons), rocket launchers, and grenades are going south from the US. They can only have come from our military, as only our military are allowed to possess them. I suspect the attacks on legal gun ownership is to cover up the real source of military hardware going south, our military. Here is where Ms. Clinton was quoted: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2009/03/26/2009-03-26_secretary_of_state_hillary_clintons_call.html
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by chusanroad April 4, 2009 10:11 AM EDT
Where would Mexico's "Illegal Economy" be without the USA's Illegal Consumption? Though both countries have massive dual economies, none produces more violence than that of the USA. You can feel safer in more Mexican communities than you will be in most US urban centers.
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by johnb8888 April 4, 2009 9:45 AM EDT
"The U.S. is responsible for over 90 percent of the traced firearms found in Mexico, but the vast majority of guns recovered in Mexico are not sent back to the U.S. to be traced because they are obviously made somewhere else. "


It's refreshing and informative to hear the truth for a change!

Despite the lying mantras being repeated by Hillary and Holder, and Mexico's rich elite, the United States is not the whipping boy here.

Mexico's billionaire elite with their one party system has tolerated massive corruption because it benefits from it.

And U.S. gun control politicians will tell any lie to promote their agenda.

The fact is: Mexican politicians are liars, and U.S. politicians are liars.

Haven't we had enough official lies to support failed policies?
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by MaineiacinAK April 4, 2009 9:15 AM EDT
Thinking at all is a challenge for some people. They can't manage to open their mind any further, because they opened it so far their brain fell right out on the ground.

A fence won't do it by itself. You need to man the fence, "stimulus"... jobs for people. And then you need the Air Force, and the Army, with fighters and helicopters. Anybody flying in without clearance is ordered to turn around and return to where they are coming from. Anybody who doesn't turn around gets splashed.

We're either going to have borders, or we're not. It's frankly that simple. "Thinking outside of the box." on very simply issues makes them overly complicated and difficult.

Spit out your silver spoon and step outside of your gated community for a few seconds, outside of your small gold lined box.

I've worked in corrections, law enforcement, EMS, and am now a physical therapist. I've forgotten more about illegal aliens, drug smugglers and dealers, and criminals than you're ever going to know. I've also forgotten more about firearms than you'll ever know, speaking of fear, small boxes, and thinking.

Fear runs my life? Really? Who's more fearful, the guy who trusts his neighbor with the means to kill him, or the one who doesn't?
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by skyk-2009 April 4, 2009 7:48 AM EDT
Hey Maniac, they'll fly over or tunnel under your little fence. You're an idiot.
Posted by straightmate at 8:42 PM : Apr 3, 2009

LOL You have to be able to think outside a very small box, which this person obviously can't. Fear is all some in this nation know and fear motivates them to build fences and buy more guns.
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by Phxfire April 4, 2009 7:34 AM EDT
Everyone arrested as a user should also be charged as accessories to murder, conspiracy, etc. If there were no market, there would be no cartels. Most laws covering violent acts hold ALL participants culpable. If you're in the room when the shots are fired, you are charged; if you accept illegal property or money, you are charged... Until its clear there is a consequence for actions by everyone involved and the market starts to dry up there will be no end.
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by ramos1129 April 4, 2009 6:12 AM EDT
As a retiree living in Mexico, I found the article about as far from the realities here as it could get. First, there was the assumption that all the drug money remains in Mexico which is simply not the case. The drugs are transported through Mexico from places like Colombia and it is illogical to believe that some if not almost all the money returns to the source of the drugs. Sure, some of the cartels buy the drugs and deal them in the U.S. and then keep the money in Mexico, but certainly not all or even enough to suggest a secondary economy exists. To fantacize that the cartels represent a secondary government is absurd. The future danger could be that the cartels will have enough money to form their own political party and buy enough votes from the poor and ignorant to gain some political clout but the current trend doesn't suggest that. I recently visited Tijuana that was extremely violent six months ago and found it tranquil and back to normal thanks to the presence of several thousand soldiers. I also visited Culiacan that was a cartel hotspot with daily killings and now it is peaceful and the people have returned to their normal lives. It appears that President Calderon is slowly winning this war but it would certainly help if the U.S. would give some satellite monitoring to locate the cartel hideouts.
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My company is working in Mexico. Bombardier Aircraft is building a plane factory there. Bell Helicopters has a large presense there.
The list is endless.

I do not deny that Mexico does have a huge drug cartel problem but it is nowhere as bad as Logan paints it.

Question: Where does Ms. Logan get her information from?
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