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March 16, 2009 4:47 PM

Obama's Early Attacks On Bonuses Complicates Response On AIG

(CBS)


As a candidate for president, Barack Obama frequently lambasted bonuses at bankrupt companies, blaming Republicans for not doing more to halt the practice.

Mr. Obama pledged to "ban executive bonuses for bankrupt companies." He said it was an "outrage" that "Wall Street bank executives are set to walk away with billions more in bonuses." He charged that, thanks to the policies of the last eight years: "Millions of Americans are facing foreclosure. Our economy is in turmoil. And the guys behind it all are getting bonuses for their bad behavior."

Which is why the recent news -- that under an Obama administration a bankrupt AIG plans to dole out an estimated $450 million in bonuses -- has the potential to complicate matters for the White House.

The U.S. government now owns AIG. To be precise, it owns 80 percent of the failing company, which has received four bailouts, reported a $61.7 billion fourth-quarter loss, and put over $170 billion in government funds at risk so far.

But its ultimate administrator, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, apparently didn't find out about the planned bonuses until last week. A letter that AIG CEO Edward Liddy wrote to Geithner over the weekend says that the bonuses are necessary because, at least in some cases, "there are serious legal, as well as business, consequences for not paying."

The combined total of bonus and retention payments could be as much as $1.2 billion, according to an estimate by the Wall Street Journal.

One option, of course, would be to insist that recipients of bonuses voluntarily relinquish them -- at least if they want to keep their jobs during what has become a serious recession. Liddy, who will be paid only $1 in salary for 2009, did not mention that possibility in his letter.

It was left to Mr. Obama to say on Monday: "Under these circumstances, it's hard to understand how derivative traders at AIG warranted any bonuses, much less $165 million in extra pay. How do they justify this outrage to the taxpayers who are keeping the company afloat?" Meanwhile, the White House plans to try to find ways to recover some of the cash.

This flap could lead to something of a backlash, and charges of hypocrisy, for Mr. Obama and the Democrats on Capitol Hill, who were elected last fall amidst populist anti-Wall Street sentiment on promises to crack down on a "culture of greed" on Wall Street.

It also highlights an uncomfortable problem for companies that have been nationalized, or, like AIG, virtually nationalized. Should bankrupt-and-bailed-out firms pay employees prevailing wage rates, including bonuses, to remain competitive with their unencumbered rivals? Or should they bow to political pressure and curb them? ("This is an outrage," is how Mitch McConnell, the Republican Senate Minority Leader, characterized the bonuses on ABC's This Week, echoing what candidate Obama said just a few months ago.)

And this weekend's disclosure of AIG's counterparties -- which EconWatch discussed last week -- raises another question: Was AIG really too big to fail? That was the conventional wisdom at the time, with the Bush administration believing an AIG failure would be "catastrophic," and Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer saying it was an "unprecedented" but necessary step.

The list of counterparties shows that the largest single payment to a counterparty was $7 billion, to the UK-based Barclay's PLC; the payment totaled less than Barclay's profit for 2008. Other payments were smaller and went to large European and U.S. banks and financial firms.

AIG had raised alarms in secret presentations to regulators as recently as last month, saying that a halt to the bailouts would be catastrophic and permanently harm the economy. "Who knows if what they're saying is true?" Phillip Phan, professor of management at the Johns Hopkins Carey Business School in Baltimore, told Bloomberg News. "A lot of it sounds like conjecture, that if AIG collapses the rest of the industry will, too. It's a way of creating a crisis atmosphere and the sense you have to respond quickly."

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by abbe91 March 17, 2009 10:58 AM EDT
Now, I'd like to know how these bonuses are supposed to be paid ... cash or restricted stock ?
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by starleo146 March 17, 2009 10:54 AM EDT
Wait a minute.....GEORGE BUSH was the president when the terms of the AIG bailout were agreed on...........
Posted by raflin1 at 7:38 AM : Mar 17

I remember making a comment when Paulsen received 750billion dollars I saw a news picture of Paulsen coming down the treasury steps, and Bush running up the steps, both had these smirks on their faces , and I said," This is like giving the fox the hen house,look at their smirks", man was I right that money 350billion of it is still not accounted for
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by starleo146 March 17, 2009 10:49 AM EDT
Aig is a monopoly and should be broken up and the hearing today with Liddy the CEO should be interesting. Hope they cover the whole thing so he can answer some of the evil doers goings on in that company not another dime unless bonus' are out and resort trips and all that garbage
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by hatesthecolt March 17, 2009 9:40 AM EDT
Hmmm, let's throw the baby out with the bathwater?? How about there are some good people in banking and there are some scum and we try to find the scum and throw them out? Now THERE's an idea!
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by pr_boxer March 17, 2009 5:39 AM EDT
Obama has the job of cleaning up the mess the Bush/Cheney admin left. He'll succeed in spite of the nay saying hard heads.

The Republican party is in the midst of disintergration, soon , 2-4 years the GOP will join the Whigs as one of those political parties of the past.

Oh! the Conservatives will create some forum they can continue obstructing the quest to better the lives of the working class.
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by homespunlady March 17, 2009 1:41 AM EDT
Two Words that MIGHT help "fix" this debacle.

TRUST BUST!!!

AT&T was FORCED to be "broken up" when the nation perceived it as "too big" and dangerous to the economy.

Microsoft faced YEARS of litigation for similar reasons.

Countless other companies were DENIED mergers and "consolidations" based on the reasoning that they MIGHT become "too big".

And yet, this horizontally and VERTICALLY INTEGRATED BEHEMOTH was ALLOWED even ENCOURAGED to become the MONSTER that ate the world's economy???

Break it up IMMEDIATELY.

TOSS OUT the "useless" and costly money wasters (preferably with one way tickets to Somalia where they can fit in with the rest of the PIRATES).

Try to "salvage" what little value is left from the PENSION FUNDS they RAIDED and raped.

REINSTATE ANTI-TRUST and ANTI- MONOPOLY laws with MUCH BIGGER teeth to them.
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by vincan-2009 March 16, 2009 11:43 PM EDT
DefendLiberty - I heartily support your honest and fact based comment. As I have said many times it will take a long time to right the Bush administration wrongs perpetrated on America.
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by vincan-2009 March 16, 2009 11:33 PM EDT
Everyone is fed up with the vulgar excesses that these Wall Street Banks keep insisting on in spite of their begging for government bail-outs. Greed caused these banks to make very big, very bad and very risky moves that have come back to bite them. Yet they will not learn. No one deserves bonuses for screwing up a bank enough that they need rescue by the government.
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by homespunlady March 16, 2009 10:18 PM EDT
I'd opt more for a Bush backlash...

Remember the Bush/Paulson TARP Plan?

THREE PAGES -most of which demanded NO OVERSIGHT.

Now THERE was a "bonus plan" even the most greedy economic Attila the Hun could envy.

Just hearing about it left the "Pinky and the Brain" theme song ringing in my ears for weeks.
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by platteman March 16, 2009 9:31 PM EDT
Nothing will happen. MSM is so in love with Obambi that no mater what he does, he will still walk on water.

That is what you get when you get a community organizer in chief. We got a Handout in Chief.
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by jefflz-2009 March 16, 2009 7:23 PM EDT
These greedy pigs should be brought low. Not only should they lose their so-called bonuses there should be a witch-hunt to find and prosecute all those who have broken any security laws - they should be stripped of their wealth. They and their families can go live in trailer parks or tent cities along with those who are suffering as a result of their misdeeds.
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by xxdream March 16, 2009 7:17 PM EDT
"WITH ABSOLUTELY NO OVERSIGHT ON WHERE THE MONEY WAS SPENT."

Wait a minute... The Executive branch is neither in charge of its own Oversight, nor does it pass the budgets which are delivered to it. There has been plenty of Congressional Oversight since January 2007. Nancy Pelosi got het Air Force jet and was in charge of keeping a close eye on the Bush Administration.

Ms. Pelosi could have stopped any spending bill from ever reaching the House floor from 2007 onwards. That's TWO YEARS, not two months. Likewise, at no time in the Bush Administration did the Democrats ever lack the 40 votes they needed in the Senate to block any thing they didn't like.

There is a difference between no oversight and Democrat oversight.
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by tincup356 March 16, 2009 7:14 PM EDT
Fire them...they failed .......there are A LOT of qualified people out of work right now that could take those jobs and would probably do so for a lot less money,,,and probably be successful.,,,,,,,,,,,Washington better do something....the growing number of broke mad natives is growing fast,,,,,,,,,,the smells of revolt are growing stronger each day.
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by pr_boxer March 16, 2009 7:05 PM EDT
This is one messed up article, must have been written by an English major. The grammar seems correct, however it makes no sense. A real waste of time to read, the writer really needs to join the ranks of the un-employed.
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by DefendLiberty March 16, 2009 7:02 PM EDT
I see the GOP tin-hat crowd is back, this time bllaming the AIG bailout- most of which was done under BUSH, on Obama. It's clear that the Rush/Hannity/Fox parrot crowd is reality challenged. The laugher is that they think Americans are too stupid to know this mess was BUSH/GOP made and will take YEARS to FIX.

56 days, and Obama has already done more to make American stronger than Bush and his traitors did in their 8 YEARS of malfeasance and criminal conspiracy.
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by renonv5 March 16, 2009 6:36 PM EDT
Obama's Early Attacks On Bonuses Complicates Response On AIG

This article is, for myriad reasons, totally irresponsible. I think this "reporter" is just trying to get a rise out of everyone.
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by LOL_AT_CBS March 16, 2009 6:31 PM EDT
Are all you lefties getting what you voted for? The rest of us are getting what we voted against... being screwed.

Yeah, AIG should have been allowed to file C-11, but PrezBO would rather commit high crimes by violating the Constitution via fascism.

The article is wrong too... the bonuses are $165M for AIR's sales staff (in their contract). Less than 1/10 of 1% of the total outlay of all "bailouts". If the Administration stops these bonuses, which would SURELY be spent in the private sector (see: Stimulus), then America has much more serious problems than a recession; it would mean that "the enemy within" that our Founders warned us of have succeeded.

Since when are Afro-Indonesians allowed to run for POTUS anyway? Is he even in the country legally? If that's a ridiculous statement, then why can't we see his REAL birth certificate (not the cert. of live birth given by Hawaii to many outsiders)?
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by ObamaNO March 16, 2009 6:14 PM EDT
HAD ENOUGH?? GET HIM OUT OF THERE!!!!
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by whitemale08 March 16, 2009 6:13 PM EDT
The President sayed today that he will '...block the bonuses'.

I'm sure it will be tricky since the British counterparties are threatening to shut down the bankrupt financial system but so what.

We want President Obama to 'block these bonuses' and stop the bailouts so that AIG can file for Chapter 11 re-organization and British counterparties can eat their losses.
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by strangeworld March 16, 2009 5:42 PM EDT
Why would the AIG mess create a backlash Obama? The previous administration is the one that pushed for big bailouts for these financial institutions WITH ABSOLUTELY NO OVERSIGHT ON WHERE THE MONEY WAS SPENT. It was the last hurrah for the 28 years of modern republican rule in which the taxpayers money was shifted to GOP fiends, big-business, and republican campaign donors. I say good riddance to bad rubbish - anyone who votes for a republican for the next 50 years deserves the economic meltdown that the GOP has brought upon the US - yet again.
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