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October 2, 2008 4:38 PM

Biden, Palin, and the Fight Against Expectations

(CBS)
From CBS News' Ryan Corsaro:

(ST. LOUIS) - As hard as the candidates have worked to prepare themselves for the eye of scrutiny that comes with tonight’s debate, their campaigns have been working just as hard to raise or lower expectation of how Joe Biden and Sarah Palin will do.

“Governor Palin is one of the best debaters in American politics,” said Obama campaign manager David Plouffe aboard Biden’s plane today.

The compliment was so high, it even made some of the press members laugh at Plouffe.

“If you look at her,” Plouffe continued, “No she is. Her 2006 debate, she knew where she wanted to take every question, and so I think she’ll be relentlessly on message tonight, and again I’m sure she’ll have any number of biting and witty one-liners. But our focus is on the person sitting at home in Canton, Ohio, tonight, Akron, Ohio, tonight, who’s struggling economically.”

McCain spokesman Ben Porritt had similar ruminations about how well Biden would perform, trying to keep expectations for Palin low.

“We are in the underdog position as we have been all campaign, especially going up against a smooth-talking salesman like Joe Biden. This guy is an experienced debater who won a handful of democrat debates even though his campaign was outgunned,” said Porritt.

“I think tonight’s debate will again help voters answer one thing. What is more important: rhetoric or an actual record of achievement? McCain-Palin have a history of reform and efforts to challenge the status quo.”

Regarding Palin, Porritt said his candidate “will rise to the occasion and lay out the McCain-Palin vision for getting the economy on track and securing victory in Iraq and Afghanistan."

"Governor Palin has an amazing out of leadership qualities and for many American’s who are just tuning in, this will be the first time they see these qualities. The more times Americans hear about her record in Alaska, her leadership on ethics reform, and her experience on critical issues like energy independence the more they realize that Obama and Biden have nothing to highlight on their resume.”

Plouffe, on the other hand, downplayed Biden’s debate experience and admitted people would be looking for “gaffes” from the senator tonight, whose lengthy speeches and long answers to questions sometimes get him into trouble.

“Listen, Joe Biden’s gonna talk about what’s in his heart, and where Barack and he want to lead the country,” said Plouffe.

“And I think that he’s a very honest person, plain-spoken person, and I know that they’ll be a gaffe-watch tonight. But the gaffes that matter are what George Bush has done to the American people, and what John McCain wants to continue. So, on taxes, on most of the Bush economic policy, on Iraq, McCain’s even to the extreme compared to the Bush administration. So these are the gaffes that matter to the American people.”

The McCain camp did take Biden down a notch, with Porritt ending his comments by saying, “It will be difficult for Biden to achieve credibility. However he couches his comments he is sticking up for Barack Obama and his record which he has repeatedly criticized in the past. Biden is on record saying that Obama is not ready to lead, he is on record saying Obama’s vote against our troops was to make a political point.”
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by fleffk October 3, 2008 4:16 AM EDT
i was watching the debate and was left wondering, palin really had to have been really schooled on her debate like someone cramming for a test.
it was very evident when talking about the mess on wall street.
she said that main streets mess is affecting wallstreet, am not an expert on all this but is the mess in main street affecting wall street or is the mess on wall street affecting main street?
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by fleffk October 3, 2008 4:09 AM EDT
i was watching the debate and was left wondering, palin really had to have been really schooled on her debate like someone cramming for a test.
it was very evident when talking about the mess on wall street.
she said that main streets mess is affecting wallstreet, am not an expert on all this but is the mess in main street affecting wall street or is the mess on wall street affecting main street?
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by fleffk October 3, 2008 4:07 AM EDT
i was watching the debate and was left wondering, palin really had to have been really schooled on her debate like someone cramming for a test.
it was very evident when talking about the mees on wall street.
she said that main streets mess is affecting wallstreet, am not an expert on all this but is the mess in main street affecting wall street or is the mess on wall street affecting main street?
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by harbinger09 October 3, 2008 3:10 AM EDT
In the middle of all the spin, strategy and games, there is one thing both Karl Rove and the Republicans keep forgetting:

**YOU NEVER GET A SECOND CHANCE TO MAKE A FIRST IMPRESSION.


1. If you find no matter how smart Palin is now, she still gets dissed: **

2. If you find that no matter what we do in Iraq, the Iraqis hate us: **

3. If McCain finds that no matter what he says about the economy now, people think he''''''''s an idiot on that issue: **

4. If the GOP finds no matter how McCain spins or lies or disowns Bush, people now blame REpublicans, McCain and Bush for the economy**

**YOU NEVER GET A SECOND CHANCE TO MAKE A FIRST IMPRESSION.

**YOU NEVER GET A SECOND CHANCE TO MAKE A FIRST IMPRESSION.

And that first impression is how people will usually judge and see you. No matter how much lipstick you try to put on it later.

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by ffemtcecil October 3, 2008 2:07 AM EDT
Katie Couric with CBS should NOT be reporting ANY KIND OF NEWS. She is Biased and doesn''t even try to hide it. During the Interview after the Debate she said that Obama is better in Economics; when she was asking for the opinions about the Vice President Canidates. The News Media as a whole need to relearn how to report the news by telling both sides of the story without showing thier personal opinion.
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by mena05 October 2, 2008 11:36 PM EDT
Everyone, esp. Katie on CBS are ready to jump on Palin everytime she doesn''t answer a question like they think it should be answered. Did anybody hear Joe Biden''s senile remarks about the great Stock Market Crash of 1929? He said that Franklin D. Roosevelt got on television to tell the people why it happened. Went into great detail about how President Roosevelt handled telling the American people about it. Not only was Franklin D. Roosevelt NOT president during the 1929 Stock Market Crash (Hoover was) but the first TV license wasn''t issued until 1941. This is the man Democrats believe is ready to step in and fill the shoes of the President? I guess if you don''t know what you are talking about you can always make up something. By the way, why didn''t anyone catch this at CBS? We all know the answer to that one don''t we?
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by tangouniforn October 2, 2008 10:49 PM EDT
I expect that Palin will be trying to push McCain''s experience and not his intelligence. His one years experience repeated 28 times still comes out to be one years experience. His intelligence is even more glaring. He graduated in the lower 1/2 percent of his class. That is even worse than Bush''s record. I want to see someone in the POTUS that can recognize BS for what it is. Experience can be gained, intelligence cannot.
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by cacatua08 October 2, 2008 9:27 PM EDT
strmkr,
Quit whining and looking for a scapegoat. You think this conservative strategy of smearing the professional credentials of Gwen Ifill isn''t obvious to EVERYONE?! She would hurt herself if she allowed such a thing to happen as biasing the debate.

Love the McCain camp: Just the other day Joe Biden is a gaffe machine. Now he is a smooth-talking salesman. So why didn''t you get YOUR OWN smooth-talking salesman or woman instead of someone who more often than not sounds as intelligible as a blithering idiot if she isn''t speaking from a script?

No doubt she will be trying for some "gotcha moments" tonight to distract from her lack of knowledge.

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by obbcbs October 2, 2008 9:17 PM EDT
The media are moderate and conservative.
You right wingers think that Richard Nixon defined reality. On to the real show. Palin''s job tonight is to lure Joe Six Pack into voting for her. No ideas need be considered. Just smile and occaisionally make jokes about Biden and Obama. Give the guys in the bar a laugh.
Nothing of substance. And they wont notice if she flubs a question. They will have no idea.
She IS one of them. Her plan, such as it is, is to repeat clever lines from Karl Rove.
Just zing them in, whether they fit or not.

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by gosarah1 October 2, 2008 8:40 PM EDT
Posted by strmkr: This is a sad day for the news media. The public trust has been violated since Gwen Ifill, moderator of the VP debate, has a financial interest through her book, in the outcome of the election. Her book, scheduled for release on the day the new president is sworn into office, features one of the presidential candidates. This is a giant nail in the coffin of integrity and fairness in the media. It reflects and gives the impression that objectivity in news has been lost.

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Thank you for saying this. You have said what I''ve been wanting to say. Media has been harsh on Sarah Palin. Media look down on her rather than her experience but for her gender and being a republican while most media are liberals.
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by jlb43-2009 October 2, 2008 8:31 PM EDT
American voters expect to elect a vice president who is ready to step into the presidency at a moment''s notice -- that''s the VP''s most important job. Sarah Palin''s debating prowess simply cannot make up for the deficits in her resume - she is unqualified for the job. There is nothing she can do about this before Election Day. For her or McCain to think otherwise is delusional.
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by strmkr October 2, 2008 8:00 PM EDT
This is a sad day for the news media. The public trust has been violated since Gwen Ifill, moderator of the VP debate, has a financial interest through her book, in the outcome of the election. Her book, scheduled for release on the day the new president is sworn into office, features one of the presidential candidates. This is a giant nail in the coffin of integrity and fairness in the media. It reflects and gives the impression that objectivity in news has been lost.
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