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September 25, 2008 12:53 PM

Trippi, Bartlett Preview The First Debate

Writes CBS News consultant Joe Trippi:

In every single poll John McCain has higher ratings with voters on foreign policy than Barack Obama. So its pretty simple -- if at the end of this debate voters think that Barack Obama deserves to stand on the same stage with John McCain on foreign policy, then hands down John McCain has lost the debate.

This means from the start Barack Obama has a much easier time winning this debate than McCain does.

The fact is that Barack Obama has been answering foreign policy questions for 19 months or more. His sparing with Hillary Clinton has sharpened his debate skills. He knows his answers and it's unlikely that there is any question that he hasn't heard or will cause him to stumble. All of which is likely to make him appear surprisingly knowledgeable and thoughtful to undecided swing voters who have doubts about him on foreign policy and his readiness to be commander in chief.

If Barack Obama goes through the entire debate and holds his own with the "more experienced and knowledgeable" McCain – it helps Obama. It raises Obama's stature on foreign policy issues and more voters are likely to see him as "presidential".

The more he stands with McCain and doesn't stumble, the more it will be Obama who is scoring.

McCain on the other hand has a tougher hurdle – he has to try to "disqualify" Obama.

McCain cannot afford to let Obama gain ground on him on the foreign policy dimension. The McCain campaign has been raising the difference between "talking" and "doing". And I would expect McCain himself to carry this theme into the debate. But disqualifying someone who has had 19 months to fine tune his answers is not going to be easy.

Bottom line? This is the debate that could decide who wins the election and it could decide it in a big way.

If McCain somehow successfully disqualifies or raises serious doubts about Obama on critical foreign policy and defense issues it would be devastating to the Obama candidacy.

But every minute Obama is on that stage with McCain and proves he belongs there, McCain loses his one advantage over Obama and with it the election. Both outcomes are possible, but Obama has the easier job in Mississippi.

Update 4:30 P.M.: CBS News consultant Dan Bartlett reacts to Trippi's analysis:

I mostly agree with Joe's assessment of the debate and that the hurdle for Obama seems a bit lower than for McCain. However, this won't be a true foreign policy debate and the developments over the last 24hrs could prove fairly interesting. First, there might not be a debate. McCain has made it clear that if there is no deal on legislation, he's not going. Not sure how the public will react. But if a deal is brokered by early tomorrow, expect McCain to show up with at least the argument that while Obama talks a lot about a bipartisan governing philosophy, he actually demonstrated the ability to work across party lines.

So if the debate turns toward the economy, then the bar gets lowered for McCain as well. If he can show a command of the economic issues and come across compassionate and in charge, he will have exceeded the low expectations set for a man who famously said he needs to bone up on the economy.

Last point: the fact that the debate is being held on a Friday night means probably a small audience will actually see the debate. That means the "debate after the debate" will be crucial. Remember, President Bush substantively lost the first debate against Al Gore, but "won" when all the post-debate analysis focused on Gore's annoying sighs. This might spell trouble for Team McCain since they have so forcefully gone after the MSM. There's not a lot of love there!
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by hillarynow September 28, 2008 4:57 AM EDT
What Democrats and Independents still out there on the fence need to understand is, even if Hillary was your choice, like she was mine, or you are older or white and just can''t feel cozy about Obama this race, this election, this country is not about Obama. It is about all of us and when you compare values and really look at who you are about to vote for or not vote for, Obama is the clear choice if you really want to see our country prosper and grow once again. Some of you may be lucky enough to have jobs, retirement or investments to fall back on, but millions of your fellow Democrats don''t after what Bush and the Republicans have done to the USA. Do the right thing, not because you love Obama, but because you love America. Obama gives us a much better chance at survival in these impossible times for so many Americans. Don''t forget Biden either, there is no way no how Biden will allow the corruption, greed and ignorance we have seen in DC continue and he is a seasoned expert on foreign affairs. The Democratic ticket is a good one this election, don''t be on the wrong side of history and miss the chance to say you voted for the right team.

Obama / Biden
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by avembe September 26, 2008 5:54 PM EDT
This is powerful!
http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=PdJUCU1UH2w&rel=0&eurl=http%3A//www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/9/55118/43459&iurl=http%3A//i1.ytimg.com/vi/PdJUCU1UH2w/default.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskKzk0x_1n6K7QpM0inMejaP&use_get_video_info=1&load_modules=1&fs=1&hl=en&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999&border=1
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by Harvybing September 26, 2008 3:47 AM EDT
BILL CLINTON LAYS BLAME FOR FANNIE MAE MELTDOWN ON DEMOCRATS

President Bill Clinton told ABC News That the blame for the Fannie Mae Meltdown Lies squarely at the feet of DEMOCRATS. You have to admire his candor -

See The Jim Angle Report on Fox -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHj8-HSi5AA&eurl=

See More At http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/09/25/fox-news-blames-democrats-financial-crisis-bill-clinton-agrees -

Watch The Interview On ABC News ---
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/bill-clinton-do.html --

And The New York Post Agrees -- http://www.nypost.com/seven/09242008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/house_of_cards_130479.htm?&page=1 --



Hear Barney Frank On Video Stating That There Is No Crisis At Fannie Mae -
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194210.php -


I think there are 2 former CEOs of Fannie Mae, one former assistant CEO, and at least One United States Senator and at least one member of the US House of Representatives who should GO TO JAIL for this!
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by roxyvb September 25, 2008 11:24 PM EDT
I don''t think it matters if McCain shows up for the debate or not. If he''s not there, Obama should simply bring in his economic advisor team and hold a panel discussion. That would be more interesting and may offer a better solution for America. (Would Mr. Buffet show up?)
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by amnstymccain September 25, 2008 9:28 PM EDT
Does anybody know of any good books on Presidency and Vice Presidency for Dummys?
Posted by TommyGun083 at 04:25 PM : Sep 25, 2008
*** The presidential and vice presidential book for Dummies... by George W and Cheney, by dummies for dummies
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by amnstymccain September 25, 2008 9:26 PM EDT
Does anybody know of any good books on Presidency and Vice Presidency for Dummys?
Posted by TommyGun083 at 04:25 PM : Sep 25, 2008
*** They would probably be written by George W and Cheney!
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by tommygun083 September 25, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
Its not fair that they are making that poor old dim wit John McCain stand up to Barack Obama in public debate. Maybe he can get his wife to stand in for him. She has got to be smarter and more knowledgeable than he is. John can use the excuse that he has to stay in Washington and learn about economics. Palin is taking a crash course on foreign policy, and McCain is studying the fundamentals of economics. Does anybody know of any good books on Presidency and Vice Presidency for Dummys?
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by obbcbs September 25, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
The best part of not having the debate on Friday is that the VP debate doesnt happen at all, and Palin is never exposed.
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by obbcbs September 25, 2008 7:18 PM EDT
McCain''s hope is to maintain the illusion he is an expert on foreign policy by not attending the debate. Neat trick. The man''s a genius of a politician but I wouldnt want the slime as commander in chief.

How do you call a man a hero who provided propaganda for the enemy? That''s a traitor, not a hero.
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by miamiderick September 25, 2008 7:01 PM EDT
It was a big mistake for McCain to choose Palin as VP. Paris Hilton is far better qualified.
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by DCropp September 25, 2008 6:50 PM EDT
McCain would rather have this debate then allow the VP debate to happen.

Tonight''s second part interview with Palin is an eye opener. Some of her answers terrified me. Not because of events, but because she doesn''t seem to have a clue.

If you watch this, you will understand why McCain is trying to change tomorrow night''s debate to replace the VP debate.
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by dburfears September 25, 2008 5:09 PM EDT
SO - Now we know why McCain manipulated the situation to TRY TO STOP THE DEBATE ON FRIDAY.

McCain is losing in the polls, and the debate on Friday would seal his fate. Of course he wants to stop the Friday debate. McCain''s move is cynically and transparently political.
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by dothemath3 September 25, 2008 4:51 PM EDT
So is that "tougher hurdle" the biggest reason McCain is trying to postpone (or cancel) this debate?

Or is it trying to get the VP debate postponed or cancelled?

Or is it trying to look presidential by riding to the rescue (to the chagrin of congressional leaders who are actually dealing with this issue)?

Or is it trying to change the subject from Davis Manafort''s August Freddie Mac payment?

Or is it trying to change the subject from McCain''s anti-regulation history?
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by filmguy107 September 25, 2008 4:45 PM EDT
Hi...I''m John McCain, and I play a president on TV.
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by danrains1 September 25, 2008 4:37 PM EDT
And Obama WILL look Presidential, because he IS Presidential. Here''s a question for the debate: America has lost respect all over the world, what do you intend to do to restore this respect? And here''s another one: "Do you believe your vice-presidential selection will be able to step into your shoes in the international arena if for any reason you cannot?" I''d like to see the look on McCain''s face when he hears that question. And finally: "The American market is in turmoil: does this mean that America is at risk because it cannot rely upon revenues to support the troops?"
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by dnsallday September 25, 2008 4:36 PM EDT
I do not understand why every time Obama has to put one foot in front of the other or speak in front of people that the pundits all say, if he makes one mistake his campaign will be devistated.

That is hogwash. Americans allow for mistakes (those of us in the Humans club, anyway).

They are both experienced in foreign policy verse. Obama has been through a number of debates. John Mccain has debated more than anybody else in the Senate and has a reputation for being quite good at it. It did get him through the primaries, after all.

Why don''t we just see what these too have to say, instead of all this BS speculation.
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by dinslc September 25, 2008 4:26 PM EDT
This article states accurately the reason McCain "suspended" his campaign. He want''s to avoid Obama.

McCain''s objective is to keep the American people distracted, and to put off debating Obama face to face.

Every time there is bad press for McCain, he pulls some desperate attention grabbing act to move the spotlight off his gaffes and/or scandals.

Don''t fall for it, America.

This election is about the issues- even if McCain''s camp says it isn''t.
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by briannorwood September 25, 2008 4:19 PM EDT
With each passing day, John McCain looks and acts more and more confused.

His irratic messaging and knee-jerk response to the issues is disconcerting.
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