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September 25, 2008 10:08 AM

Starting Gate: To Debate Or Not To Debate

With apologies to William Shakespeare, that is the question. Whether it is nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outraged pundits or to take up arms against a sea of troubles and, by doing so, end them (and win an election).

John McCain is not Hamlet but this campaign is reaching heights that equal the great literary works of The Bard. The latest scene unfolds against a backdrop of great national unease. How bad is the situation? Well, if you believe President Bush, it’s hard to imagine a worse possible scenario than the one he laid out to the nation last night.

“The government's top economic experts warn that without immediate action by Congress, America could slip into a financial panic, and a distressing scenario would unfold,” the president said.

How distressing? “More banks could fail, including some in your community,” he claimed. “The stock market would drop even more, which would reduce the value of your retirement account. The value of your home could plummet. Foreclosures would rise dramatically. And if you own a business or a farm, you would find it harder and more expensive to get credit. More businesses would close their doors, and millions of Americans could lose their jobs. … And ultimately, our country could experience a long and painful recession.”

Into that stepped McCain yesterday, who suspended his campaign activities to head back to Washington and presumably save the day. While pundits, analysts and Democrats rail against what they see as a cynical political move, the McCain campaign hopes the image most voters get is one of a leader who puts aside petty politics to solve a problem. The truth is probably somewhere in-between.

With indications that Washington is edging ever-closer to a deal on a Wall Street bailout, the issue of whether or not the debate happens may be moot by the time Friday night rolls around. But should the negotiations stall on what’s shaping up to be a monumentally important piece of legislation, will McCain show up in Oxford, Mississippi? And, if he doesn’t, what would happen?

McCain is already receiving a great deal of criticism from Democrats, pundits and other observers for his moves so far. They are calling it a gimmick, saying that it’s bringing the campaign into a complicated and urgent problem and scoffing at the senator for a seeming inability to do two things at once.

But anecdotal evidence suggests there is a great unease among voters about bailing out a financial industry which got itself into the mess in the first place. And it’s not just Republicans who have been hammering away at the Treasury Secretary on the Hill over these issues in the last couple of days. There’s a consensus that something needs to be done, however, and if McCain gets a little credit for something that helps the financial system without angering voters, it may be worth the slings and arrows he’d take for missing a debate.


Around The Track

  • “I presume he did that in good faith since I know he wanted -- I remember he asked for more debates to go all around the country and so I don't think we ought to overly parse that.” – Former President Bill Clinton, who told ABC News this morning that he doesn’t believe McCain is seeking to postpone Friday night’s debate because he is “afraid” to debate Obama.

  • “The Obama team has not figured out yet that McCain is waging an asymmetrical campaign, meaning at times he will take a risky, counterintuitive course, just as he did on Wednesday” – Chicago Sun-Times’ Lynn Sweet, who reports that Obama’s campaign was “caught off guard” by McCain’s announcement yesterday.

  • “I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.” – Sarah Palin, asked by CBS News’ Katie Couric to provide specific examples of McCain’s past efforts to push for more regulation of the financial industry.

  • The word “Obama” appears regularly as an answer in the New York Times crossword puzzles while the word “McCain” has never appeared, the Politico reports.
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    by hjedtyj September 26, 2008 5:27 PM EDT
    Since Dems have enough votes in Congress to pass bill, wonder why they are they using GOP as an excuse?

    An inside congressional source stated that Obama messed up Dems orchestrated plans to make him look presidential and in control during yesterday''s White House meeting.

    Wonder if Dems are also behind Obama''s attempts to cheat at tonight''s debate too?

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    by hjedtyj September 26, 2008 5:20 PM EDT
    Wonder if there is truth to the actual candidate that bumps off mutual opponent will win in November regardless of debates, issues and poll numbers?

    Apparently the mutual opponent exposed corruption within both parties and is presently targeted.

    The question is will both parties use the popular ''sweetheart exchange deal'' to do the bumping off? A deal where convicts are used to commit orchestrated crime/murder in exchange for less jail time, conveniently covered up and culprits never suspected?

    Will GOP use Guiliani-like mob ties such as used by his ex-NYPD commissioner who was indicted and may serve up to 140 years in jail? Or solicit Gotti, Jr. who is indicted on conspiracy and murder charges?

    Will Dems use an OJ Simpson-like black convict with jail time?

    Given this information, do we have to worry about our personal safety too? For example, will our car be tampered? Are we safe sleeping in the middle of the night in the privacy of our home as our habits and plans are known in advanced due to bugging devices?
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    by hjedtyj September 26, 2008 5:19 PM EDT
    Wonder if there is truth to the actual candidate that bumps off mutual opponent will win in November regardless of debates, issues and poll numbers?

    Apparently the mutual opponent exposed corruption within both parties and is presently targeted.

    The question is will both parties use the popular ''sweetheart exchange deal'' to do the bumping off? A deal where convicts are used to commit orchestrated crime/murder in exchange for less jail time, conveniently covered up and culprits never suspected?

    Will GOP use Guiliani-like mob ties such as used by his ex-NYPD commissioner who was indicted and may serve up to 140 years in jail? Or solicit Gotti, Jr. who is indicted on conspiracy and murder charges?

    Will Dems use an OJ Simpson-like black convict with jail time?

    Given this information, do we have to worry about our personal safety too? For example, will our car be tampered? Are we safe sleeping in the middle of the night in the privacy of our home as our habits and plans are known in advanced due to bugging devices?
    Reply to this comment
    by hjedtyj September 26, 2008 5:19 PM EDT
    Wonder if there is truth to the actual candidate that bumps off mutual opponent will win in November regardless of debates, issues and poll numbers?

    Apparently the mutual opponent exposed corruption within both parties and is presently targeted.

    The question is will both parties use the popular ''sweetheart exchange deal'' to do the bumping off? A deal where convicts are used to commit orchestrated crime/murder in exchange for less jail time, conveniently covered up and culprits never suspected?

    Will GOP use Guiliani-like mob ties such as used by his ex-NYPD commissioner who was indicted and may serve up to 140 years in jail? Or solicit Gotti, Jr. who is indicted on conspiracy and murder charges?

    Will Dems use an OJ Simpson-like black convict with jail time?

    Given this information, do we have to worry about our personal safety too? For example, will our car be tampered? Are we safe sleeping in the middle of the night in the privacy of our home as our habits and plans are known in advanced due to bugging devices?
    Reply to this comment
    by hjedtyj September 26, 2008 5:18 PM EDT
    Wonder if there is truth to the actual candidate that bumps off mutual opponent will win in November regardless of debates, issues and poll numbers?

    Apparently the mutual opponent exposed corruption within both parties and is presently targeted.

    The question is will both parties use the popular ''sweetheart exchange deal'' to do the bumping off? A deal where convicts are used to commit orchestrated crime/murder in exchange for less jail time, conveniently covered up and culprits never suspected?

    Will GOP use Guiliani-like mob ties such as used by his ex-NYPD commissioner who was indicted and may serve up to 140 years in jail? Or solicit Gotti, Jr. who is indicted on conspiracy and murder charges?

    Will Dems use an OJ Simpson-like black convict with jail time?

    Given this information, do we have to worry about our personal safety too? For example, will our car be tampered? Are we safe sleeping in the middle of the night in the privacy of our home as our habits and plans are known in advanced due to bugging devices?
    Reply to this comment
    by hjedtyj September 26, 2008 5:18 PM EDT
    Wonder if there is truth to the actual candidate that bumps off mutual opponent will win in November regardless of debates, issues and poll numbers?

    Apparently the mutual opponent exposed corruption within both parties and is presently targeted.

    The question is will both parties use the popular ''sweetheart exchange deal'' to do the bumping off? A deal where convicts are used to commit orchestrated crime/murder in exchange for less jail time, conveniently covered up and culprits never suspected?

    Will GOP use Guiliani-like mob ties such as used by his ex-NYPD commissioner who was indicted and may serve up to 140 years in jail? Or solicit Gotti, Jr. who is indicted on conspiracy and murder charges?

    Will Dems use an OJ Simpson-like black convict with jail time?

    Given this information, do we have to worry about our personal safety too? For example, will our car be tampered? Are we safe sleeping in the middle of the night in the privacy of our home as our habits and plans are known in advanced due to bugging devices?
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    by jetsetter08 September 26, 2008 1:47 PM EDT
    McCain is so weak beyond words. Time is running out for the election and this debate is crutial. What kind of game are they pulling?
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    by caliguy55 September 26, 2008 12:50 PM EDT
    Can anyone be stupid enough to believe that McSame is doing this Washington thing for love of country, rather than politics. The old phart hasn''t voted on anything in Washington since April 2008. Now, he rushes of the Washington in an effort to look Presidential and promptly screws everything up. People, wake up. McSame has sold his soul to the devil. Obama/Biden 2008 More Than Ever!!!
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    by babooph September 26, 2008 12:37 PM EDT
    C''mon John-been waiting a long time-you can put all that makeup on & take a pep pill.
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    by bracemic September 26, 2008 11:53 AM EDT
    maturevoter, maybe you should have excercised more in your lifetime. There is no excuse for not having any energy at 72 years of age. My grandmother is into wind sailing, works 50-60 hours a week, and works every holiday. She is 78 years old. You are one lazy bumb.
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    by bracemic September 26, 2008 11:47 AM EDT
    McCain should debate tonight simply because Americans are anxious to watch it. Unfortunately, McCain will stick to his guns when he wants to prove a point. If he says he''s not going, he probably won''t be going.
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    by mydiatribe September 26, 2008 11:33 AM EDT
    At this point, Obama is reminiscent of a kid who tugs on his father''s sleeve as the Firemen are putting out his house fire and says: "Does this mean you are not going to be at MY GAME?"
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    by rixmix98 September 26, 2008 9:47 AM EDT
    I''''''''m guessing the reason McCain doesn''''''''t want to debate Obama tommorrow is because he is unprepared. Most likely because he sat around all week looking at internet porn playing with peepee.

    Posted by Sky_Five at 12:02 AM : Sep 26, 2008


    Sounds logical. However, you''re assuming the old man knows how to access the internet.
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    by iowa-jay September 26, 2008 4:14 AM EDT
    Sarah Palin - Supporter of America Hating Alaska Independence party (WATCH THIS VIDEO TO SEE FOR YOURSELF): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBj8_xWO7Q8&feature=related

    More on Palin''s Alaska First Problem: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Re0vmbtHK8

    She is a wacko! Tim McVeigh would be proud.

    McCain is losing it and does not want to appear upscripted in public...
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    by xeranar September 26, 2008 4:12 AM EDT
    Please, the town hall meetings are so pathetically scripted it isn''t even funny. So why in the world would you go into a town hall meeting scripted to favor your opposition? Just debate him 3 times like normal candidates and smash him to bits over his deregulation/surge/general crotchety nature.
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    by iowa-jay September 26, 2008 3:37 AM EDT
    Palin''s Alaska First Problem: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Re0vmbtHK8

    She is a wacko! Tim McVeigh would be proud.

    McCain is losing it and does not want to appear upscripted in public...
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    by txrfc2008 September 26, 2008 1:40 AM EDT
    Barack Obama has consistently made sound decisions, unlike John McCain who has acted unstable. Also, Barack Obama has done an incredible job running his campaign, unlike John McCain. As unstable as John McCain is, I do not blame Obama for not wanting to attend town hall meetings with the old man.
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    by maturevoter September 26, 2008 1:40 AM EDT
    I am 72, the same age as McCain, and I know how much energy I can devote to a project, and it is not a lot. There is no way McCain can survive a 12-14 hour day running this nation. He can''t even handle the debate and the financial problem at the same time.
    So, if he were elected, running the country would fall to ex-Bush
    operatives and Republican lobby types now in his campaign-OR Palin
    and Cindy!
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    by markmazza September 26, 2008 1:32 AM EDT
    The only hope for the McCain/Palin ticket at this point is that the American people will be stupid enough to vote them in.

    And the way the people have voted over the last 8 years, let''s just say we may be lobbing missles over the Bering Straight next year.
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    by endofempire September 26, 2008 1:18 AM EDT
    Barack chickened out of the non-prepared townhall meetings and now when McCain would rather work on preserving the U.S. as we know it, Barack is pushing so he can show us how well he can learn the answers he was coached through? Get frigging real, people!!!!
    I want to know what Barack is doing to help fix what his party broke over the last two years, since the Democrats took over Congress.
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