Starting Gate: Just How Confident Should Democrats Be?
Does Barack Obama already have the presidency locked up? For Democrats, it might be tempting to think so.
A Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll out yesterday shows Obama with a 12 point edge – an advantage that stretches to 15 points when Ralph Nader and Bob Barr are included.
The poll also suggests that more voters are identifying as Democrats than Republicans, and that John McCain is suffering from a “passion gap” – while just 58 percent of conservatives said they would vote for McCain, 79 percent of liberals vowed to vote for Obama.
In addition, almost every metric in the race favors the Democratic candidate – among them the candidate’s fundraising ability, trends in party identification, and disenchantment with the current (Republican) president. McCain seems to realize that he faces an uphill battle: At a fundraiser yesterday, the presumptive GOP nominee said, “We are behind, we are the underdog. That’s what I like to be.”
And while that may be a stretch, Democrats would be wise to temper their enthusiasm. For a cautionary tale, they need look no further than 1988: In May of that year, Michael Dukakis had a 10 point lead over George Bush in a New York Times/CBS News Poll. A Gallup poll taken two months later, just after the Democratic convention, showed Dukakis with a 17 point lead. Note this passage in the 1988 Times story on the May poll, concerning the silver lining for Republicans: “Many voters, for example, worried that Mr. Dukakis may lack the [experience] to be President.” Sound familiar?
Just as Republicans are looking to do with Obama, Dukakis was defined by his opponent over the course of the election as an elitist who was unprepared to deal effectively with national security issues. The Massachusetts governor’s missteps on the trail – chief among them the disastrous M1 Abrams tank photo-op – only exacerbated that perception. (Obama, of course, has already shown a propensity for missteps of his own, among them the “bitter/cling” comments and his connection to former pastor Jeremiah Wright.)
Obama is no Dukakis: The Illinois senator is a far more charismatic campaigner, and will not take the sort of time off from running for president that Dukakis disastrously did in 1988. And as Power Line points out, June polls have become far more predictive of final results since Dukakis’ failed run. But even now, McCain’s chances may be better than these early national polls suggest: CBS News chief political consultant Marc Ambinder examined the general election map Friday and found that between base states and those leaning towards McCain, the Arizona senator could claim 220 electoral votes. Obama could claim 212.
McCain’s biggest problem may simply be that he needs Obama’s help. If the presumptive Democratic nominee doesn’t make serious mistakes in the coming months, it may be extremely difficult for his rival to close the gap – even if McCain’s campaign comes up with the 2008 equivalent of a Willie Horton ad. Still, anyone who thinks the election is already over would be wise to study their political history – and remember we have no idea what surprises could come between now and Election Day.
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In an ad out yesterday, Oregon Republican senator Gordon Smith crossed party lines to align himself with Obama. “Who says Gordon Smith led the fight for better gas mileage and a cleaner environment? Barack Obama,” an announcer says in the spot, which you can see here. ”He joined with Gordon and broke through a 20-year deadlock to pass new laws that increase gas mileage for automobiles.” Responding to the ad, campaign spokesman Bill Burton said in a statement that while Obama “has a long record of bipartisan accomplishment,” the candidate supports Smith’s rival, Democrat Jeff Merkley, in the Oregon Senate race.
Obama is “giving the green light to his financial contributors to help pay off Senator Hillary Clinton’s campaign debt,” CBS News’ Maria Gavrilovic reports. The presumptive Democratic nominee gave the go-ahead on a conference call with his National Finance Committee last night. Obama’s finance team is expected to help Clinton pay off roughly $10 million in debt, though not the $12.5 million she lent her own campaign.
McCain announced more foreign travel yesterday, this time a planned trip to Columbia which is scheduled to take place before July 4th. “I want to assure [Colombian President Alvaro Uribe] that I believe in free trade between our two countries, that I believe that our two nations can work together and fight back the scourge of drugs that has so much afflicted their country and ours,” McCain said. Obama opposes a proposed free-trade deal with Columbia. Senators Lindsey Graham and Joe Lieberman will accompany McCain on the trip.
Michelle Obama will give the keynote address at the Gay and Lesbian Leadership Council Gala in New York City tomorrow night. She will be joined at the Democratic National Committee fundraiser by DNC Chair Howard Dean and New York First Lady Michelle Paterson.
A Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll out yesterday shows Obama with a 12 point edge – an advantage that stretches to 15 points when Ralph Nader and Bob Barr are included.
The poll also suggests that more voters are identifying as Democrats than Republicans, and that John McCain is suffering from a “passion gap” – while just 58 percent of conservatives said they would vote for McCain, 79 percent of liberals vowed to vote for Obama.
In addition, almost every metric in the race favors the Democratic candidate – among them the candidate’s fundraising ability, trends in party identification, and disenchantment with the current (Republican) president. McCain seems to realize that he faces an uphill battle: At a fundraiser yesterday, the presumptive GOP nominee said, “We are behind, we are the underdog. That’s what I like to be.”
And while that may be a stretch, Democrats would be wise to temper their enthusiasm. For a cautionary tale, they need look no further than 1988: In May of that year, Michael Dukakis had a 10 point lead over George Bush in a New York Times/CBS News Poll. A Gallup poll taken two months later, just after the Democratic convention, showed Dukakis with a 17 point lead. Note this passage in the 1988 Times story on the May poll, concerning the silver lining for Republicans: “Many voters, for example, worried that Mr. Dukakis may lack the [experience] to be President.” Sound familiar?
Just as Republicans are looking to do with Obama, Dukakis was defined by his opponent over the course of the election as an elitist who was unprepared to deal effectively with national security issues. The Massachusetts governor’s missteps on the trail – chief among them the disastrous M1 Abrams tank photo-op – only exacerbated that perception. (Obama, of course, has already shown a propensity for missteps of his own, among them the “bitter/cling” comments and his connection to former pastor Jeremiah Wright.)
Obama is no Dukakis: The Illinois senator is a far more charismatic campaigner, and will not take the sort of time off from running for president that Dukakis disastrously did in 1988. And as Power Line points out, June polls have become far more predictive of final results since Dukakis’ failed run. But even now, McCain’s chances may be better than these early national polls suggest: CBS News chief political consultant Marc Ambinder examined the general election map Friday and found that between base states and those leaning towards McCain, the Arizona senator could claim 220 electoral votes. Obama could claim 212.
McCain’s biggest problem may simply be that he needs Obama’s help. If the presumptive Democratic nominee doesn’t make serious mistakes in the coming months, it may be extremely difficult for his rival to close the gap – even if McCain’s campaign comes up with the 2008 equivalent of a Willie Horton ad. Still, anyone who thinks the election is already over would be wise to study their political history – and remember we have no idea what surprises could come between now and Election Day.
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See all 94 Commentswhen Mccain says something cockeyed that makes no sense, the pundits say, "that''s understandable" that he would make a mistake like that.
When Obama makes a mistake , it is because he is "inexperienced".
When Obama''s flamboyant preacher, he is portrayed in a never ending media loop as some scary black dude".
When McCain seeks out the endorsement of extremist preachers, it is overlooked because they are white!
Guess trying to tie Democratic candidates with Obama didn''t work so well?
Take note, Senator McCaon.
My friend.
younger, more intelligent
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If Obama is smarter then John McCain how come he won''t do one on one town hall debates with him. And this is after he said he would debate McCain anywhere anytime now it no way no how... So what''s he afraid of cluck, cluck, chicken, chicken???
My sense is that he doesn''t want to give SEnator McCain the free air time.
Let McCain go out and earn his own cash.
It''s the American way.
You know..."The Cathloic Church is the great wh--re?"
"Please, Hagee -- endorse me!"
What a laugh.
Perpetual War mismanaged, and Fear Mongering.
Unfair taxation of the Middle Class.
High prices for Gasoline, Electricity, and Everything Else!
High Medical Costs and Prescription Drugs.
Pollution.
Invasion of Privacy, and disregard for our Constitution.
Politicization of the Justice Department.
Corruption, Corruption, Corruption.
Religious Hypocrisy and abuse of tax laws.
Degradation of our Infrastructure.
Continued export of American Jobs to overseas Slave Labor.
Decline in US stature and respect of the World Community.
Vote Republican to continue to STAY THE COURSE!
Maybe that''s just fine.
Posted by broadwayphi
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McCain was never a member of Hagee church all he got from Hagee was an endorsement. Obama went 20 plus years to Trinity and had his daughters where baptized there.
"Please, Hagee -- endorse me!
By the way Hagee is not Catholic I believe he is baptist and Hagee doesn''t like gay people he doesn''t bash black people the way Obama and Trinity bashes white people.
By the way I don''t like Hagee either...
Posted by Barocalto
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Obama is a leader and will create his own terms.
I have listened to a few of McCains town hall events. Although the media seems to think he does better at these, rather than show his incapacity to read a teleprompter, they are full of gaffes and confused efforts to explain his own flip flopping.
Maybe Obama wants to wait until McCain finishes debating with himself over the issues.
Interesting how people have such a problem associating with a flamboyant preacher, but don''t seem to have any problem with Republicans close relationships with currupt liars and theives.
Posted by Barocalto at 10:31 AM : Jun 25, 2008
McCain "pursued" that endorsement for over a year. Now getting an endorsement from wacko Hagee shows all that McCain "experience"...
NO, NO, NO.
McCain''s problem is that he is just too, too old for this job. That is why his campaign is so anemic.
I expect Obama''s lead in the polls to continue upward throughout the summer months. Probably one or two points per week.
Expect a November blowout!
It is typical for rivals to help the other retire debt after primary process because it makes for party unity towards general election.
At the same time, it is reported that if only 20% of Hillary''s 18 million voters sit out or vote McCain, Obama loses in November. That is only about 4 million voters.
Sources say, Al Gore may try to become the Dem nominee when Obama may be driven out by his own scandals unleased by media. Apparently Obama''s only role is to rid Hillary, then self destruct so Gore will waltz in and claim the nomination in August.
What do you think?
It is typical for rivals to help the other retire debt after primary process because it makes for party unity towards general election.
At the same time, it is reported that if only 20% of Hillary''s 18 million voters sit out or vote McCain, Obama loses in November. That is only about 4 million voters.
Sources say, Al Gore may try to become the Dem nominee when Obama may be driven out by his own scandals unleased by media. Apparently Obama''s only role is to rid Hillary, then self destruct so Gore will waltz in and claim the nomination in August.
What do you think?
What do you think?
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Posted by ijagpoj at 10:53 AM
I think you''ve been sniffing too much glue.
Two letters for this delusion...
B....................S!
Jack-
Come November we will be voting for the candidate that is talking common sense. Obama is that person. He is closing in on 50 years old. He is not without experience regardless of what Landslide Limbaugh says. His education blows McCain''s away.
McCain finished 894th out of 899 class rank at Navy. We been there....done that....DISASTER!
On election day you will notice an ARMY of determined voters marching in lockstep to the polling place. Please stay out of the way. We are dtermined to vote for the person who will look out for the middle class and we don''t care if that person is GREEN!
You can keep your "ISSUES" with race to yourself.
The rest of us will take care of business and do what is RIGHT!
Sorry Jack - SPLAT!
Posted by chris52562 at 11:12 AM : Jun 25, 2008
You''re being facetious, right?
Posted by ijagpoj at 10:53 AM : Jun 25, 2008
I think you picked a bad week to quit tweakin!
*splat*-youself!
And just a couple weeks ago polls showed McBush was winning vs Clinton OR Obama.
Nooo........this margin will only get bigger and bigger. Tsunami alert!
*splat*-youself!
Posted by jack3213 at 11:31 AM : Jun 25, 2008
I''m sorry for you.
Posted by jack3213 at 11:40 AM : Jun 25, 2008
You''re doing just fine on your own without any help, sir.
Posted by cbscrash07 at 11:41 AM : Jun 25, 2008
Not only does he want to close the Enron loophole, he wants to increase controls on gambling on oil prices. Listening to Monica Crowlyu all day you won''t find out Barack''s plans to better America. But, if you go here:
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/
Hey TawDawg- or whatever your name is- Get lost
Posted by cbscrash07 at 11:41 AM : Jun 25, 2008
Not only does he want to close the Enron loophole, he wants to increase controls on gambling on oil prices. Listening to Monica Crowley all day you won''t find out Barack''''s plans to better America. But, if you go here:
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/
you can educate yourself rather than blindly following Limbaugh''s instructions.
(silence with crickets)
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MichelleMalkin/2008/06/25/the_acorn_obama_knows
The Republicans have planned, implemented, and succeeded to hold every American hostage for energy and provide tax cuts to those making huge profits!
The only weapon the American People have is the Voting Booth, given that the Republicans won%u2019t bamboozle another election%u2026
Why did the NYFD hear all those POP POP POPS as the tower came down?
Why did I hear all those POP POP POPS on internet footage of the tower collapse?
Why were there HUGE increases in PUT OPTION VOLUME on airline stocks in the days just before 9/11?
Are those same "SPECULATORS" making big money now betting on oil futures?
Will there be another "EVENT" just in the nick of time for McBush?
"The Country I Lie To"
Obama LIES on his first general election ad! Also, a short background check on Obama''s VP adviser; Eric Holder.
wwww.savagepolitics.com/?p=800
"Tyrants or Children"
Kim Jong Il and his North Korean murderers endorse Barack Obama. Also, a short profile of Cindy McCain and her charity work.
www.savagepolitics.com/?p=805
Vote for change.
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Posted by haoli25 at 10:13 AM : Jun 25, 2008
It''ll get easier! And our country will be the better for it.
Posted by Cryos
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I really doubt that Obama is afraid of McSybil
Vote for change."
Mattcat25, you realize you just described YOURSELF, right? Allow me to assist:
Mattcat25 is one of those people unfortunately (for him) that find themselves completely dependent on the rekindling of the Democratic Agenda. I don%u2019t blame him for being combative, antagonistic, and a bit hostile at the prospect of losing social welfare, Democratic entitlement program for those too lazy to work(that''s not to say everyone on social welfare IS too lazy to work). Mattcat25 and those like him have their finger in the doorway and it%u2019s very likely the door could be SLAMMED!
Vote for Reason. Vote McCain.
Posted by jack3213
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So far we have the anti-Obama commenters admit to being puppets for Limbaugh, savage and Michelle Malkin. All documented liars.
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