Obama OKs Donors To Help Clinton With Campaign Debt
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(NEW YORK) Senator Barack Obama is giving the green light to his financial contributors to help pay off Senator Hillary Clinton’s campaign debt from her failed election bid, sources tell CBS News.
CBS News' Maria Gavrilovic, who is traveling with the Obama campaign, confirms the Illinois senator gave the go-ahead on a conference call with his National Finance Committee tonight.
A Democratic source says that on the call, Obama’s donors asked to help Clinton pay off her debt. Obama replied that if they have the ability and interest to raise or give money to Clinton, he encourages them to do so.
CBS News chief political consultant Marc Ambinder says that as far as how much Obama’s campaign will give Clinton, “It likely figures to the tune of $10 million, which is what Clinton owes in addition to the money she lent herself.”
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See all 76 CommentsWe can be sure Mrs. Clinton is the grateful beneficiary of the offer, howevermuch some of her fans may harbor bitterness.
Such attitudes must be tossed overboard so the party can defeat McBush. After eight years of Bush disaster, there is no rational alternative to Democratic unity.
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Posted by RowdyWicca
Well know more money for Obama until he stops helping Hillarys sorry butt out. Why would we want to help pay the women who almost destroyed the party.
She should have Bill pay off her debt instead of giving it all to his women on the side.
On the one hand I feel like geez, Hillary''s supporters didn''t support her, and every other candidate who had financial troubles would have either cut costs or quit. The writing was on the wall way before Hillary started to accrue debt, the debt is for guys like Mark Penn who''s apparently overpaid, the Clintons are probably going to write books about the experience which will rake in millions, and Bill hasn''t even endorsed Barack yet.
On the other hand, I feel like in the name of party unity, maybe a dollar or two might help heal some wounds. Then I go back to thinking geez, Hildebeast hasn''t even come out and campaigned with Barack yet, and who knows whether she''ll be all passive-aggressive in hopes of giving out mixed messages to her supporters to get herself another bite at the apple in 2012 . . .
Sigh, I guess I''ll wait and see what our leaders do (Barack and Billary) and take it from there . . .
She made this mess. Her supporters are still writhing in it--let them each come off a few dollars for the "Bail out crazy Hillary fund" or the "crying game fund" or whatever name they want to call, having to pay off the debt of a sore loser, who ran when she was on empty--and expects to be bailed out--reminds us of that guy who had AIDS and felt the government should pay for his viagra if they wanted him to practice safe sexxxx.
Screwed priorities. LMAO
Regardless, it would be a HUGE mistake for Obama to do so. Those of us who have sacrificed time and money to Obama''s campaign, and who aren''t worth over $100 million like Clinton, will be HIGHLY offended.
You can trust me on this one.
I never thought I would blog in capital letters, but here it goes:
BARACK, HAVEN''T YOU GOTTEN THE MESSAGE YET?
It''s as if this is a "payoff" for the egregious behavior of Mr. Obama and his supporters. I wonder how much they figure it should cost them. Keep an eye out for the actual number. I have a feeling it won''t amount to much.
Posted by sueg48 at 03:30 AM : Jun 25, 2008
Did you send a message to the Obama America site? We''ve sent several--he gets no money that he can funnel to HRC in any way. She was irresponsible and her own so called loyal donor base is stingy--let them clean her mess up, why should be bail her out? I told him--no money as long as there is a chance HRC would get a dime. And you are right--a lot of Obama supporters will NOT bail out HRC or her whiney, sore loser, ungrateful, turncoat supporters. Not now.
Posted by michael0004 at 07:11 AM : Jun 25, 2008
What also is not reported is how much they have made in contribution. Obviously the 5.00 they have donated collectively, is not enough and now Obama thinks he tap into the rest of us--NO he can''t. Obama supporters do NOT want to help HRC or her nasty base--even if we lose--let us NOT pay for the privilege by helping ungrateful azzholes out--they made the mess--they should suck it up--ALONE. It does not matter how big a donor base is--if their ratio of support is very little and we pick up the tab. Fvck Hillary and any of you who will not vote for Obama--and fvck her debt too---only a fool runs their car when they are out of oil--and they don''t run it that way for long--hope that ***** chokes on the fumes--and all you rabid supporters can choke too--NO BAILOUT for the HRC MOOCHING CLUB.
Posted by cbs4me3 at 08:24 AM : Jun 25, 2008
Right. HRC should just stamp her feet, stomp home, where she should throw tantrums until she is sooo tired from screaming that she just sicks in the corner, sucks her thumb and vows she won''t "play" anymore because "dey won''t let her win--ewen doe she is da girl" just like many of her supporters act.
Fvck HRC--fvck her bills--she is like a looter--who destroys their own neighborhood then expects others to pay for the destruction. Stop whining about HRC--if you don''t want Obama, fine--don''t vote for him--but take your whine and at least put your money where YOUR mouth is--put your 2.00 check in the mail today--or help a few of your fellow Clinton supporters out and go all out and send her the 20.00 for 10 of you. If 1.8 million of her supporters (10% right?) just sent her 20.00--she''d have her debt paid off and a little bonus--which we are sure she and Bill could help make disappear.
Posted by michael0004 at 07:11 AM : Jun 25, 2008
LIAR. Obama''s donations have gone waaaaaay down. He''s on his own here--most Obama supporters do NOT even want to help HRC--and we are not donating to him for fear that we would accidently and involuntarily help her. You really miss something here--after the ugly campaign she ran and the way many of her supporters are hanging on to their ire--many Obama supporters loathe HRC just as much as you think you loathe Obama.
We do NOT want to pay for her bills and mudslinging--she did this--let her pay for it and if you HRC supporters love her so much--send her a check--because obviously on her own--she''s not getting much help or much love from the other 382 million Americans in this country who do NOT want to help her in any way.
Liar? You''re like your candidate. I only quoted exactly from the article itself. But you have drunk so much Obama Kool-aid, you litteraly can not see the hand writing on the wall - or the printed page. Also, name calling is artform perfected by Obama supporters and encouraged by Obama and is a major reason why many Clinton supporters are hesistant to vote for Obama in November.
Lastly, Obama is seeking help from Clinton big donors. Of course, that news was buried in the back pages of the newspapers, but it is a fact.
Liar? Silly you. Take a reading course.
When was the last time these two were working as Senators?
Come on--just 2.00 EACH. Or is two dollars --just a bit too much "support" for your queen? What an asset you all are--big on the hate--but can''''t even give your queen two dollars to stop her from begging and relying on Obama supporters to bail her out. LMAO
"...Billary blah blah..."
Posted by SamTheTVCat at 02:46 AM : Jun 25, 2008
Sorry but Hillary should be telling this jerk to screw himself!
Lastly, Obama is seeking help from Clinton big donors. Of course, that news was buried in the back pages of the newspapers, but it is a fact.
Liar? Silly you. Take a reading course.
Posted by michael0004 at 09:01 AM : Jun 25, 2008
LOL--You believe everything you read? So the article lied and then you repeated the lie--fact is, Obama is getting donation backlash and has just had the worst month is donations this year--and he will get more--as long as HRC, her debt and her whiney, ungrateful supporters hang around his neck like an albatross--if she has such big donation supporters--let them send Obama money and explicitly earmark it for the Hillary beg-a-thon--because most of us other folk do not want to hear it. Just pony up and do your share--send that woman 2.00 and encourage the rest of her 17,999,000 so called supporters to send in 2.00 each--then her debt is paid, she can stop with the begging--and we can move on--McCain or Obama--at least it won''t be Hillary--and that is a good thing.
Posted by cryhavoc2 at 08:56 AM : Jun 25, 2008
exactly--and HRC detractors will stop giving to Obama as long as we fear the money might end up paying off all those bills she should have paid off months ago, instead of continuing her divisive run.
Her mess--only she should have to pay for it. People who don''t clean up their own mess have little respect for not making messes again. Ask Bush--he''s ready for another war--and HRC? If we pay her debts, she will be ready for another run--just like this one--and I for one do not want to encourage her--ever.
Posted by cryhavoc2 at 09:09 AM : Jun 25, 2008
Yep. Crying havoc is a good name for you--cryinariver--, or cry baby--might have been more appropos. Send Hillary your 2.00 today. LOL
Why is she in debt anyway? Obama is not in debt. She''s always saying she had 18 million voters; where is the support from those 18 million? If each of them just gave her 1 dollar each her debt will be gone.
To go to the person that beat you with your hand out doesn''t make sense to me. How does she even ask for help? Ahh, I know I did everything in my power to destroy you but I really need your help paying of the debt I build up trying to do so.
Please, please Mr. Obama have pitty and help me out....
Posted by cryhavoc2 at 09:17 AM : Jun 25, 2008
We''ll reserve judgment on HRC and her motives before her stock rises among us nonHRC supporters--her "support and unity" remains to be seen--because it all could be just a ploy--to make nice just to get her debts paid off--we''ll see how robustly she helps out and if it lasts longer than her 36 million dollar bail out. If she ever gets that.
And then Obama supporters wonder why Hillary supporters are hesitant to support Obama. All I can say to Obama and his supporters, is "good luck" winning in November without the 18 million Hillary supporters. All the money in the world will not win the election for Obama without a large portion of these 18 million votes. You''ll see.
Finally, has anyone ever wondered about the quality of the Obama supporters who can not make an argument for their candidate without resorting to juvenile name calling.
Posted by cryhavoc2 at 09:19 AM : Jun 25, 2008
I think it is the only way it will work. Because most of us who despise what and how Hillary ran do not want to help her out in any way--so we are not giving to him in fear it will go to her. On the other side--HRC supporters who do not want to help out Obama or do want to rest assured their money helps Hillary first, will not give as long as they have no control over where that money goes.
The gesture is grand--but it fails to take into account how angry many of us still are on both sides--and it is asking for too much without safeguards. Obama can''t get a dime from me as long as I think Hillary might get any of the money. I hated the campaign she ran with and her staying in so long--it will come back to haunt both of them and that was her fault--the math was not in her favor months before--and most candidates bow out when the math is not there--her tenacity stopped being an attribute in late April.
Posted by cryhavoc2 at 09:24 AM : Jun 25, 2008
I hate to say this--but your statement is correct--HRC did not do this alone but she did try to lie and spin about her hand in NAFTA and that was dishonorable.
As for Obama--he probably is a NAFTA hound too--but his appeal is he appears to be more controllable than HRC--it is not so much her--it is the cabal and baggage that comes with her--and we are not just talking about Bill, there is corruption , graft, political extortion, strong arm tactics and abuse of executive power in the Clinton legacy as well--after all the ugly doors Bush has left open--we just can''t afford the Clintons to walk on through them all, carte blanche. Obama is not a paragon of virtue--he just represents the "lesser evil with company" than McCain or Hillary.
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Posted by cbs4me3 at 08:24 AM : Jun 25, 2008
Hillary CAN''T run as an independent. The rules for presidential candidates specifically state that a candidate that loses their primary is ineligible to run as an independent for that election (Rule II.A.).
Posted by fstop100 at 09:03 AM : Jun 25, 2008
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She went back to work at the Senate yesterday. Pay attention!
http://www.latimes.com/news/
nationworld/nation/la-na-hillary25-2008j
un25,0,7787465.story
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Posted by cryhavoc2 at 09:37 AM : Jun 25, 2008
And Obama has spent one and half years running for President out of his 3 year Senate carreer.
Posted by cryhavoc2 at 09:48 AM : Jun 25, 2008
You know--I owe you an apology--I am sorry I was so quick to judge you and take a cheap shot at you--after I read other of your posts, it struck me that you were trying to be very candid and fair and was at least willing to dialog. After so many months, many of us are just so tired of the whining and the finger pointing and the threats, that we are in attack mode and "*** the consequences" But there is no reason to blast those who are at least trying to see both sides--and so--I am sorry for making fun of your moniker. :)
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Won''''t be donating to either, don''''t support either one. And cryhavoc is taken from Shakespeare''''s (as you should know, as well educated as a mutual friend tells me you are) line, "Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war" and it is meant in a sarcastic manner, as in to express my disgust for violence and hatred.
Posted by cryhavoc2 at 09:46 AM : Jun 25, 2008
LOL--I''m known for being so intelligent--I pride myself on trying to be the alter ego to b-easy (who was also toldyouso21). I won''t say she is my role model, but I will say she has influenced my thoughts--I followed her here from the yahoo and huffington post boards--we both raised a lot of hell against the neo cons back in the early days of the war--now that she is taking a hiatus--I''m trying to do my best to fit in--but my temper often gets the best of me. LOL
"...Billary blah blah..."
Posted by SamTheTVCat at 02:46 AM : Jun 25, 2008
Sorry but Hillary should be telling this jerk to screw himself!
And then Obama supporters wonder why Hillary supporters are hesitant to support Obama. All I can say to Obama and his supporters, is "good luck" winning in November without the 18 million Hillary supporters. All the money in the world will not win the election for Obama without a large portion of these 18 million votes. You''''ll see.
Finally, has anyone ever wondered about the quality of the Obama supporters who can not make an argument for their candidate without resorting to juvenile name calling.
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Posted by michael0004 at 09:30 AM : Jun 25, 2008
Sir, I respectfully suggest that you practice what you preach. Of the 7 anti-Obama posts on this site, 1 suggests sexual activity and 6 contain name-calling against Obama or his supporters or both--including your post. I am appalled at the name-calling and level of discourse prevalent on these boards but I do try to practice what I preach. (Guess that makes me a liberal!)
Posted by RowdyWicca at 09:54 AM : Jun 25, 2008
You miss the point--Hillary needs the money--so like every other political w-***, she is willing to get in bed with and do anything to get it--HRC supporters failed to understand the game. It never was about them or her helping anyone except herself. Now that one gambit has dried up--she is left playing this hand--and play it she will--right down to smiling and trying to talk up the man who stole her glory--but the fact is, Obama supporters don''t want to bail her out--let her supporters do that--by hook or by crook--its never stopped Hillary and Bill before. Pony up your 2.00 and help your girl out. LOL
LOL--I''''m known for being so intelligent? Actually, on other boards and probably here, intelligence is not what I am known for--I''m more known for being rather nasty--and not taking a lot of craaaap and I take no small measure of pride in that. the other remark of "I am known for being so intelligent" should have had several ?????? behind it. LOL--
Posted by toldyouso12 at 09:54 AM : Jun 25, 2008
LOL. I spotted you as either b-easy or a b-easy clone from the very first message I read. Nasty, vindictive, arrogant, repetitive, full of yourself, hateful. Intelligent? Not so much.
What''s the matter, can''t you think for yourself? Your style is so much like b-easy''s that you should be embarrassed and ashamed. Try thinking for yourself for a change.
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Posted by cryhavoc2 at 10:08 AM : Jun 25, 2008
Excellent post! I agree.
Posted by libra127 at 10:04 AM : Jun 25, 2008
I make no bones about knowing who b-easy is personally and in emulating her. I take that as a backhanded compliment as she is one of the most intelligent and fair minded people I know--though lately she has been talking about that need for unity craaap and come close to heresy in trying to find some good in Hillary. But I just think she was having an off day, when she said all of that. LOL
As for whether I am her clone--so what? Imitation is the greatest form of flattery--you don''t see me lambasting your for your being a clone of a neo con, now do you? We all have to aim for as high as our attributes can take us--so we know you only are doing your best.
If all of this goes over your head--BITE ME. It means the same thing in "Deciphering the nuance of linguistics for HRC Dummies" LMAO
Posted by toldyouso12 at 10:09 AM : Jun 25, 2008
So EXACTLY like b-easy63. So pointless, so stupid, so insulting. You call me both a "neocon" and a "HRC Dummy" in the same post, knowing nothing about me except that I do not think highly of b-easy. Deep thinker, you are. Get a life of your own.
Racist Democrats did the same when the Democrats embraced civil rights (they flocked to the Republican party, where they could remain racist)
Reagan Dems did the same, when they decided that they were in it for themselves and wanted to help no one except their own pockets (usually called self centered azzholes--but again, they are celebrities and the norm in the Republican party.
Now many HRC supporters claim they will do the same. Do it. Stop Whining and do it. And if you are not at your maximum donations and cannot send HRC at least 20.00 to bail out the campaign that most of you egged her on to keep going--you are a fraud and a liar.
HRC needs your support now, more than ever. She may not be able to win and be your President but if you really support her, then you realize her run was often at all or your behests...the least you could do is help her pay the outstanding bills for that run.
Unless you are Reagan Democrats. We don''t expect that bunch to try to help anyone except themselves. LMAO
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