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June 17, 2008 1:00 PM

McCain Camp Blasts Obama's Foreign Policy

From CBS News’ John Bentley and Allison O'Keefe:

SAN ANTONIO, TEX. – In a scathing rebuttal to remarks Barack Obama made about granting prisoners at Guantanamo Bay habeas corpus rights, John McCain’s top foreign policy advisers called Obama’s ideas a “policy of delusion” that are a “perfect manifestation of a September 10th mindset.”

“Barack Obama's belief that we should treat terrorists as nothing more than common criminals demonstrates a stunning and alarming misunderstanding of the threat we face from radical Islamic extremism,” said McCain’s Director of Foreign Policy, Randy Scheunemann.

Obama said yesterday he supported criminal trials, as opposed to military tribunals, for captured terrorists. “In previous terrorist attacks -- for example, the first attack against the World Trade Center, we were able to arrest those responsible, put them on trial,” Obama said. “They are currently in U.S. prisons, incapacitated. And the fact that the administration has not tried to do that has created a situation where not only have we never actually put many of these folks on trial, but we have destroyed our credibility when it comes to rule of law all around the world, and given a huge boost to terrorist recruitment in countries that say, 'Look, this is how the United States treats Muslims.'”

But former CIA director and McCain adviser James Woolsey called the trials of the terrorists responsible for the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center “a miserable failure” because the criminal trials withheld pertinent information from the government. “What Sen. Obama said that this is the right approach - the way we went about it in the ‘93 bombing was the correct approach - shows a very deep first ignorance of the fact and very, very dangerous policy,” added former Navy secretary John Lehman, another McCain adviser.
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by mattcat25 June 17, 2008 1:20 PM PDT
Why is it that the Republicans want the approval to take away human rights?

This is un-American, and I question the Patriotism of those in favor of eliminating our CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!

The Republican Party represents Power, Greed and Corruption.
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by mbcsmith June 17, 2008 2:26 PM PDT
LIBS have no idea how to protect this country. The constitution is a pact between Americans and their government and those on U.S. soil. LIBS now want terrorists all over the world to have these rights.
FDR is rolling in his grave.
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by notopennshut June 17, 2008 2:32 PM PDT
We MUST get out of the mindset of McCain! Sure, we are sorry that he had to spend years as a POW, but that is the mindset that he is still living in now!! We, as a nation, were determined to impose our wills and beliefs on the people of VN, that led to another unfortunate war, just like the one we are now waging in Iraq. So, in 1975, after losing tens of thousands of good men, (don''t even consider the vietnamese people who died) we had to take flight. A powerful country, losing to a small but determined one. History has shown that we cannot just impose our will on anyone. The Iraqis and their supporters will fight it out till the end, and there is no end in sight as long as we follow McBush/McSame/McCain!!!!For our own good, we must not repeat VN again even as McCain is trying to use Iraq to banish the ghosts he has had to live with since the 70''s. WE must not and cannot allow this man to play dangerous games with our lives and the lives of our citizens.
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by ioweign June 17, 2008 2:50 PM PDT
LIBS have no idea how to protect this country. The constitution is a pact between Americans and their government and those on U.S. soil. LIBS now want terrorists all over the world to have these rights.
FDR is rolling in his grave.

Posted by mbcsmith at 02:26 PM : Jun 17, 2008


GITMO is US soil. The US Embassy in Russia, Italy, Greece and Iraq are US soil.

So the convicted 1993 WTC Bombing terrorists should get a retrial. Gee - 4 of those terrorist were convicted in a year and a half.

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by kphx June 17, 2008 2:56 PM PDT
All the democrats should be declared as enemy combatants and shipped to Gitmo. No habeas corpus and no laws are applicable to these enemey combatants. What a great way for the neocons to win this election. Now that shows the neocons spirit for the laws and constitution.
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by shingles1 June 17, 2008 3:07 PM PDT
If anyone is guilty of pre-9/11 thinking it''s serial nutcase James Woolsey, who - unable to understand the concept of non-state actors - immediately, and without any evidence, blamed Iraq for 9/11 ON 9/11. He is also a war profiteer: VP of Booz Allen Hamilton and Director of the Paladin Homeland Security Fund. Terrorism and war have been good to Woolsey, no wonder he''s a fear monger. Not only this, but he has advocated on behalf of convicted spy/traitor Jonathan Pollard, which according to the new guilt by association logic of the Bush-heads, would make Woolsey a traitor as well.

Steve Clemons writes:

Woolsey was the first person on national television on September 11, 2001 to allege the connection between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda without disclosing on these shows his legal relationship representing Ahmed Chalabi and the Iraqi National Congress.

He is also someone who seems to see no conflict between being a pro-war pundit pretending to be on objective commentator and a war profiteer who is pocketing a lot of money from contracting related to war activities.
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by wdrussell1 June 17, 2008 3:12 PM PDT
What a great idea.
Destroy BushWorld, bring back America.
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by guyfrompa46 June 17, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS are for Americans, NOT enemy combatants .
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by kphx June 17, 2008 3:27 PM PDT
You and I can be declared enemy combatants. Voila no more constitutional rights.
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by guyfrompa46 June 17, 2008 3:33 PM PDT
kphx - you''re over simplifying it give me a break. We''re citizens they''re not.
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by mattcat25 June 17, 2008 3:35 PM PDT
What people do not understand is%u2026human rights are for HUMANS!
If you%u2019re paranoid corrupt Republican Government should want to declare YOU as a anti-American Terrorist they could pick you up and hold you forever without cause, or reason.

Then, who is going to help you?

The Republicans have endangered every American with their Imperialistic Actions by invading and occupying Iraq, and never apprehending Osama Bin Laden.


Arguing against basic human rights is like, lets say, arguing against Global Warming, it''s feudal.

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by guyfrompa46 June 17, 2008 3:38 PM PDT
Mattcat25 - A little paranoid are we?
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by mattcat25 June 17, 2008 3:40 PM PDT
Yes, from what I''ve witnessed from the Republican Conservative Bush/Cheney Administration...affirmative! if you will....
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by whitepicks2 June 17, 2008 3:43 PM PDT
McCain will lose big on this argument.

We''ve seen how terribly wrong for America the post-911 neocon mindset is. This puts him more with Dubya and on the wrong track of where the American public wants our country.
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by jsilver2th June 17, 2008 3:44 PM PDT
That''s OK- McCain has a pre-1840 mindset-
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by mattcat25 June 17, 2008 3:45 PM PDT

Why is Bush (and now his brother John McSame) so destine to eliminate the Writ of Habaeus Corpus?

The Supreme Court didn%u2019t take away anyone%u2019s right to investigate, apprehend, and charge (with crime) anyone (in the world) that poses a threat to the US.

What is up with Club Gitmo???

Explain.
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by j-whitman June 17, 2008 3:57 PM PDT
This is too funny --- All the people who where wrong on Iraq & Foreign Policy all the way to Afhganistan & China are blasting Obama''s ???
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by jack3213 June 17, 2008 3:57 PM PDT
Obama%u2019s ideas are a %u201Cpolicy of delusion%u201D that are a %u201Cperfect manifestation of a September 10th mindset.%u201D

INDEED, THEY ARE- AND WHY DUMMOCRATS THINK THEY AREN''T- IS BAFFLING.
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by mr2258 June 17, 2008 3:57 PM PDT
Obama''s Pals: From Chicago Corruption to anti-US Iraqi Thieves...Ayham Alsammarac,Iraq''s slimy ex-Minister of Electricity under the Bremer and Allawi administrations,who had escaped from an Iraqi prison by hiring an American security company to break him out back in December 2006,has resurfaced in the Jordanian capital Amman where he gave a press conference today saying,among other things,that he hoped that the insurgency in Iraq would continue to fight and avenge the Iraqi people...Alsammarac,an Iraqi-America Chicagoan,added that he had contributed the maxmum allowable of $2,300 to Barack Obama''s campaign.But there''s another Obama link to Alsammarac:while serving as electricity minister Alsammarac had been involved in brokering deals in the Iraqi electricity sector for Antoin Rezko,Obama''s long-term friend and patron....Obama should be in jail.
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by j-whitman June 17, 2008 3:59 PM PDT
McCain''s foreign policy he suggests in his 1974 War Essay & has shown us over the last 8 years.

More Propaganda will convince Americans that a bad Foreign Policy is a Good One.
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by j-whitman June 17, 2008 4:02 PM PDT
McCain surrounds himself with advisors who violated his own sanctions against IRAN & IRAN CONTRA Reagan people

NOT A MILLIONN McCAIN''S CAN CONVINCE ME HIS POLICY''S ARE RIGHT POLICY.
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by mattcat25 June 17, 2008 4:03 PM PDT

%u201CRush when they, you know, them, ask why are the Conservatives in favor of eliminating the Writ of Habeas Corpus what we supposed to say? Rush???%u201D


%u201CWell folks, ahem, what you do is when a liberal contests Bush%u2019s stance on human rights for ENEMY, KILLER, TERRORISTS, that only want to destroy our great American Conservative Lifestyle, Morals, Beliefs, Principals, and Values! all you have to do is just smile and laugh it off he, he, he my friendthzzzz%u201D
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by jack3213 June 17, 2008 4:04 PM PDT
FOEIGN POLICY EXPERIANCE:
OBAMA -0

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by mattcat25 June 17, 2008 4:05 PM PDT
"order your club gitmo tee-shirt at Limbaugh.com today folks!"
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by jack3213 June 17, 2008 4:06 PM PDT
FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIANCE:
OBAMA = 0

QUALIFICATIONS TO LEAD A COUNTRY:
OBAMA = 0
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by shingles1 June 17, 2008 4:06 PM PDT
guyfrompa46, George Will presents a conservative argument in favor of this Supreme Court decision in today''s Washington Post:

...The question of the detainees'' -- and the government''s -- rights is a matter about which intelligent people of good will can differ.

The purpose of a writ of habeas corpus is to cause a government to release a prisoner or show through due process why the prisoner should be held. Of Guantanamo''s approximately 270 detainees, many certainly are dangerous "enemy combatants." Some probably are not. None will be released by the court''s decision, which does not even guarantee a right to a hearing. Rather, it guarantees only a right to request a hearing. Courts retain considerable discretion regarding such requests....

No state power is more fearsome than the power to imprison. Hence the habeas right has been at the heart of the centuries-long struggle to constrain governments, a struggle in which the greatest event was the writing of America''s Constitution, which limits Congress''s power to revoke habeas corpus to periods of rebellion or invasion....As the conservative and libertarian Cato Institute argued in its amicus brief in support of the petitioning detainees, habeas, in the context of U.S. constitutional law, "is a separation of powers principle" involving the judicial and executive branches. The latter cannot be the only judge of its own judgment.
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by j-whitman June 17, 2008 4:07 PM PDT
Mattcat25,,, I would say give that liberal the Freedom Medal & have him or her oversee the Pentagon or the White House
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by j-whitman June 17, 2008 4:09 PM PDT
JACK3213 -- McCAINS FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIANCE ??? WRONG ON VIET NAM, WRONG ON CENTRAL AMERICA, WRONG ON IRAQ, NON-EXISTANT ON AFHGANISTAN
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by j-whitman June 17, 2008 4:10 PM PDT
JACK3213,,,, Funny wasn''t it McCain bashing POW''s who collaberated, McCain collaberated.
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by mr2258 June 17, 2008 4:17 PM PDT
Obama link to Ayham Alsammarae:while serving as electricity miister Alsammarae had been involved in brokering deals in the Iraqi electricity sector for Antoin Rezko,Obama''s long-term friend.Alsammarae also contributed to Obama''s campaign.One more of Obama''s slimy friends.
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by j-whitman June 17, 2008 4:19 PM PDT
mr2258,,, Dude you are spinning hard for your Swift Boat campaign -- Have you no Honor ???
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by j-whitman June 17, 2008 4:22 PM PDT
mr2258,,,, Every one of McCain''s top 5 advisors profiteered from IRAN & the sanctions Old John helped create. Violating our nations laws & efforts.

Others profiteered from Iran Contra.
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by j-whitman June 17, 2008 4:23 PM PDT
McCain own campaign profiteered from overcharging our troops for aviation fuel for the entire duration of the Iraq War of Roses.
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by mr2258 June 17, 2008 4:25 PM PDT
j-whitman...Obama should be in jail.The true is just coming out.All I need is a place and time....YOUR HONOR ????
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by mr2258 June 17, 2008 4:32 PM PDT
Obama is a racist coward.They say birds of a feather,flock together.I think it is true.
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by mattcat25 June 17, 2008 4:34 PM PDT
%u201Cyou can now request a hearing and, a club gitmo tee-shirt or coffee mug at Rush Limbaugh.com my friendthzzz%u201D.

%u201CLiberalthz don%u2019t underthand the Princthpals of Conthurvatisthum folks!%u201D
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by j-whitman June 17, 2008 4:34 PM PDT
mr2258,,,, You are one twisted individual, you wouldn''t recognize truth if it fell on your head in the form of blue ice blocks spelling TRUTH
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by votehillary June 17, 2008 4:36 PM PDT
I am afraid for the security of the US if Obama - a terrorist sympathizer is elected. Already his associations - and his wife act as if America hasn''t earned its leadership role in teh world - through sacrifice and fighting for freedom. Obama is not a patriot - clearly - since he does not act as if he will protect the country. Rather - he prefers to give away hard earned freedoms to terrorists - through negotiation. God only knows what Obama will ''negotiate'' away. Obama''s ideas are extreme and threaten the security of the US and to the American way of life.
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by j-whitman June 17, 2008 4:37 PM PDT
mr2258,,,, You should erase "mr" off of your screen name, mister signifies you are a man & the measure of a man is his honor ---- YOU HAVE NONE
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by j-whitman June 17, 2008 4:38 PM PDT
votehillary,,,, Your bullshhit don''t float.
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by mr2258 June 17, 2008 4:38 PM PDT
Just for info. I''m a white male and a farmer.I live in Florida.I do get 1/2 a vote.
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by element51 June 17, 2008 4:39 PM PDT
mr2258....You make some serious charges but where are your SOURCES? If you are unable to support your charges they become nothing more than political rhetoric and have no value. Be advised that you will now be asked to back up your claims with FACTS.
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by j-whitman June 17, 2008 4:39 PM PDT
2258 --- If Obama is a racist, which parent does he hate ??

If Obama is a coward, why does he have the gonads to run for office ??

YOUR SWIFT BOAT DON''T FLOAT
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by mr2258 June 17, 2008 4:40 PM PDT
You question my honor.I will defend.Time and place....
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by j-whitman June 17, 2008 4:41 PM PDT
2258 --- YOU WOULD BE AFRAID TO STAND IN FRONT OF A CUB SCOUT TROOP
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by mr2258 June 17, 2008 4:42 PM PDT
whitman-check out americanthinker.com
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by j-whitman June 17, 2008 4:42 PM PDT
2258,, NOW here''s the number 202-456-1111
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by mr2258 June 17, 2008 4:43 PM PDT
I was a cub scout.Try me...
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by j-whitman June 17, 2008 4:47 PM PDT
2258,,, I was also a Cub Scout --- You forgot the motto

I, (say your name), promise
to DO MY BEST
To do my DUTY to GOD
And my Country
To HELP other people, and
To OBEY the LAW of the Pack
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by mattcat25 June 17, 2008 4:51 PM PDT
The New York Times
Another Bad Deal for Baghdad
full article :
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/17/opinion/17meyer.html?hp
Posted by mascarponi at 04:43 PM : Jun 17, 2008


This deal that Bush is attempting to force on the new Iraqi Parliament caused the price of Oil to shoot up $10.00 in one day from $128 Dollars per Barrel to $138. This was the largest jump in the price of Oil for one day in the entire history of the futures trading exchange.

Bush, McCain and the Republicans equal high Oil Prices.


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