Groups Push For Clinton As VP, But Jimmy Carter's Not On Board
A day after Hillary Clinton told New York lawmakers she would be "open" to becoming Barack Obama's running mate, Clinton loyalist Lanny Davis has begun a petition drive to encourage Obama to create a unity ticket, The LA Times reports.
Davis, who attended Yale Law School with Clinton and helped defend Bill Clinton during the impeachment episode, has called on Obama to select Clinton since "she would be, by far, the most qualified and strongest candidate to be your running mate."
Davis isn't the only prominent Democratic voice who has launched an effort to persuade Obama to offer his former rival the vice presidential slot. Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television and owner of the Charlotte Bobcats NBA franchise sent a letter to Congressional Black Caucus Chairman and House Majority Whip James Clyburn calling on the Black Caucus to push for Obama to select Clinton.
“You can't find in an historic election two more dynamic, inspiring people who could lead this country and lead the Democratic Party for years to come,” Johnson wrote.
Furthermore, CBS News chief political consultant Marc Ambinder reported last night that Clinton's campaign manager Maggie Williams a few weeks ago quietly endorsed an effort by two former Clinton staffers to launch a draft unity ticket called "VoteBoth".
But don't expect former president Jimmy Carter to get behind any of these efforts. Carter told the UK's Guardian newspaper that an Obama/Clinton ticket "would be the worst mistake that could be made."
Carter said he would have been just as much against a joint ticket had Clinton won the nomination but said that negative views of Clinton in wide swaths of the country would significantly damage Obama's chances in November.
"If you take that 50% who just don't want to vote for Clinton and add it to whatever element there might be who don't think Obama is white enough or old enough or experienced enough or because he's got a middle name that sounds Arab, you could have the worst of both worlds," Carter said.
Davis, who attended Yale Law School with Clinton and helped defend Bill Clinton during the impeachment episode, has called on Obama to select Clinton since "she would be, by far, the most qualified and strongest candidate to be your running mate."
Davis isn't the only prominent Democratic voice who has launched an effort to persuade Obama to offer his former rival the vice presidential slot. Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television and owner of the Charlotte Bobcats NBA franchise sent a letter to Congressional Black Caucus Chairman and House Majority Whip James Clyburn calling on the Black Caucus to push for Obama to select Clinton.
“You can't find in an historic election two more dynamic, inspiring people who could lead this country and lead the Democratic Party for years to come,” Johnson wrote.
Furthermore, CBS News chief political consultant Marc Ambinder reported last night that Clinton's campaign manager Maggie Williams a few weeks ago quietly endorsed an effort by two former Clinton staffers to launch a draft unity ticket called "VoteBoth".
But don't expect former president Jimmy Carter to get behind any of these efforts. Carter told the UK's Guardian newspaper that an Obama/Clinton ticket "would be the worst mistake that could be made."
Carter said he would have been just as much against a joint ticket had Clinton won the nomination but said that negative views of Clinton in wide swaths of the country would significantly damage Obama's chances in November.
"If you take that 50% who just don't want to vote for Clinton and add it to whatever element there might be who don't think Obama is white enough or old enough or experienced enough or because he's got a middle name that sounds Arab, you could have the worst of both worlds," Carter said.
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See all 111 CommentsHe also knows that Hillary Clinton, is another Lyndon B. Johnson, just Waiting to Happen !!
All of that Clinton, Arab Money and Bill`s Dubai (United Arab Emirates) Partnership Will KILL Obama`s Election !!
Also, where is Hillary Clinton`s Health Records ?
I think McCain (good health though he may have, and many views that parallel mine) is to old. For good or bad, and we never know till after the election (the current Bush being and excellent example of that). I want new young blood.
Amongst my peers, and several of my seniors who have never voted anything but Republican in their lives, we are all ready to vote Barack. If he chooses Clinton, we will go with our own party.
I have yet to see this issue addressed on any of the Sunday news forums. My group cannot be the only Republicans thinking this way. Rebublicans, young and old ready to break from the party for Barack (without Clinton), are we really that small a minority?
Are there that many Clinton Democrats who would actually choose McCain over Barack without Clinton as a running mate? I find that hard to believe.
I would love to see one of the Sunday news forums take up this whole issue, even if briefly. Does not seem likely to happen, but still.
Let the Evil Pantsuited She-Beast return to the Netherworld where she was spawned......LMMFAO
Carter said he would have been just as much against a joint ticket had Clinton won the nomination but said that negative views of Clinton in wide swaths of the country would significantly damage Obama''s chances in November.
"If you take that 50% who just don''t want to vote for Clinton and add it to whatever element there might be who don''t think Obama is white enough or old enough or experienced enough or because he''s got a middle name that sounds Arab, you could have the worst of both worlds," Carter said.
-that is a brillant man! Carter you''re my hero!
-Obama/Carter 08, way to go!
I think she made a very clear statement last night that she really isn''t a team player or someone who is easy to work with. If Obama wants a presidency of his own he must say NO to Hillary. He will need something to draw in her supporters though - such as Kathleen Sebelius from Kansas.
Hillary needs to stay away from the candidate put in by the DNC dictators!
Let the republicans have at him! It will keep her out of the dirt that''s going to heaped on him when they reveal all his corruption!
She needs not to be a part of that!
Absolutely NOT!
Posted by CdrTek at 02:14 PM : Jun 04, 2008
Great post...and I sincerely hope that your Sunday forum gets picked up by one of the networks because as a life-long democrat, I to believe that Hillary should NOT be his VP selection for more reasons than I care to list here.
I do applaud your efforts and mindset for wanting to bring ALL Americans together for common causes...we are Americans first and this country needs healing on all fronts and I also believe that this movement is the result of young people such as yourselves that want real change and not more of the same!
STAY AWAY!
I think she made a very clear statement last night that she really isn''''t a team player or someone who is easy to work with. If Obama wants a presidency of his own he must say NO to Hillary. He will need something to draw in her supporters though - such as Kathleen Sebelius from Kansas.
Posted by craigh9 at 02:47 PM : Jun 04, 2008
Well said...and I too like Kathleen Sebelius as a VP choice!
Posted by truthspeake2 at 03:00 PM : Jun 04, 2008
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That makes three of us!
Posted by rufisgufis at 03:01 PM : Jun 04, 2008
After Hillary''s speech last night, I was convinced she is not the one for VP, and besides, there are many other qualified people to choose from and I''m glad that Caroline Kennedy is on his selection team.
Now Presidential candidate Obama must reveal how hope and change can be actualized, one issue at a time. We have heard the talk, its time to walk the walk.
Senator Obama DO NOT do it.
DNC, voters, and you as ultimate winning party nominee owe this defacto former candidate absolutely anything.
The political game has been played and there can only be ONE Democratic candidate.
Not the one who won and a hanger on ulcerating appendage.
Avoid this Vice President selection like the plague. After any honeymoon, the four year joint venture would be a national I told you so political family feud disaster.
Senator Obama, you have come so far on the tidal wave of hope and change enthusiasm you alone generated.
Do not fall in to the old political trap or game of being obligated or hoodwinked into a forced VP nominee to appease anyone. Stand by your own winning ethos of change.
Do not get conquest tunnel vision and select this VP option it will undermine all ardent effort exerted to convince America that you are more than all talk about change.
Its your call, however this is the first bona fide test of you to be true to your words and offer us something different with your deeds. VP choice is your first best impression to be a worthy change agent. Actions speak louder than words.
Prove your critics wrong. Do not disappoint your loyal supporters.
I have to assume that the "LEAK" yesterday about wanting to be the VP on the ticket was a ruse, because her actions last night ended any notion that the Obama camp would be willing to take her on.
She showed herself for what she is, a coniving, manipulative, classless shrew with NO REGARD for anyone or anything except Hillary herself.
STAY AWAY!
Posted by TiredofObama at 02:59 PM : Jun 04, 2008
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I do think you have that backwards. Hillary is the one who needs support.
STAY AWAY!
Posted by TiredofObama at 02:59 PM : Jun 04, 2008
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I do think you have that backwards. Hillary is the one who needs support.
HILLARY DOES HAVE A LOT OF CLASS - IT''S JUST THAT IT''S ALL LOW!
I have to assume that the "LEAK" yesterday about wanting to be the VP on the ticket was a ruse, because her actions last night ended any notion that the Obama camp would be willing to take her on.
She showed herself for what she is, a coniving, manipulative, classless shrew with NO REGARD for anyone or anything except Hillary herself.
Posted by craigh9 at 03:09 PM : Jun 04, 2008
I too saw the same things with Hillary as you stated but unfortunately, I believe OBAMA may consider her for VP given the respect he showed for her last night in his speech. Its a scary thought but I hope he doesn''t do anything more than make it a "consideration" and move on...
STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM HIM!
Posted by latinovoter1 at 03:09 PM : Jun 04, 2008
I saw and heard that speech this morning too and agree with you...still defiant and arrogant!
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Posted by truthspeake2 at 03:13 PM : Jun 04, 2008
2 things, one his speech was already prepared and he spoke about 7 minutes after she got done.
AND he is actually interested in party unity, if he didn''t give her props it would have come back to bite him in spades.
I really do not think he will take her on the ticket.
Posted by latinovoter1 at 03:09 PM : Jun 04, 2008
I saw and heard that speech this morning too and agree with you...still defiant and arrogant!
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Posted by truthspeake2 at 03:16 PM : Jun 04, 2008
Not less class than Michelle did when she made her big announcement about not being able to proud of her country!
Talk about low class!
Is this why Pelosi, Reid and Dean still harassing uncommitted super delegates to commit by this Friday when the DNC Super Delegate Rule is: their votes will not count until August''s convention? The DNC process allows candidates to go to convention where debates shows the country the better candidate should then be voted and nominated. Are Pelosi, Reid and Dean scared that Hillary will outshine Obama''s thin resume, lack of experience and questionable associates in his background again?
Posted by francise223 at 03:25 PM : Jun 04, 2008
Try not to think, your obviously not very good at it
Is this the reason why Pelosi, Reid and Dean targeted and disenfranchised MI and FLA for Obama back last fall knowing the demographics of these states favor Hillary?
A Preliminary chronology --
2004: The Rockefellers'' political agency endorsed Obama and funded manager, David Axelrod. Obama accepted $12,000 each from donor, $5 million primary funding came from 300 donors and a 6/7/04 Soros'' NY fundraising event held
12/4/06: Soros introduced Obama to a dozen plutocrats, UBS (Union Bank of Switzerland/Swiss Bank) U.S. chief Robert Wolf, and hedge fund manager Orin Kramer. Robert Wolf, in D.C. met with Obama to map out campaign strategy
01/07: Obama announced his Presidential run and The NYT reports he nailed the support of 2 highest level Democratic fundraisers: George Soros and Robert Wolf. By 4/07, Wolf had raised $500,000 for him
A Preliminary chronology --
2004: The Rockefellers'' political agency endorsed Obama and funded manager, David Axelrod. Obama accepted $12,000 each from donor, $5 million primary funding came from 300 donors and a 6/7/04 Soros'' NY fundraising event held
12/4/06: Soros introduced Obama to a dozen plutocrats, UBS (Union Bank of Switzerland/Swiss Bank) U.S. chief Robert Wolf, and hedge fund manager Orin Kramer. Robert Wolf, in D.C. met with Obama to map out campaign strategy
01/07: Obama announced his Presidential run and The NYT reports he nailed the support of 2 highest level Democratic fundraisers: George Soros and Robert Wolf. By 4/07, Wolf had raised $500,000 for him
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
your right, all the superdelegates were paid off in 2006 - they were just a little slow in announcing for him - say 2 years slow!!!
Yep, Dean and Pelosi got paid off to sanction Florida and Michigan - of course Hillary must have been too since she agreed to it.
Are you saying that went back on their word and didn''t pay Hillary like arranged and thats why she contested the sanctions.
Get a life pal - the conspiracy angle is really getting old.
HILLARY LOST - she didn''t understand the value of the internet for fund raising, she underestimated her opponent, and over bought into the primaries just being a coronation of her to the nomination.
SHE LOST THE RACE, no conspiracy, no piracy, SHE LOST THE RACE beacause she ran a lousy campaign.
01/15/07: Wolf introduced Obama to Jim Torrey, Brian Mathis, Jamie Rubin, and (again, from the original Soros meeting) Orin Kramer
03/07: 2 fundraisers by Wolf and one by Edgar Bronfman, Jr.--
03/15/07: Soros began a staged fraud dance with Obama. Writing in NY Review of Books, Soros denounced the rightist Israeli lobby, AIPAC.
03/21/07: One week later, continuing fraud dance, the Obama rebutted Soros (as in, "Obama distances himself from Soros"), and denounced the Hamas movement
04/09/07: Fundraiser at home of elite financier Steven Gluckstern, the former chairman of George Soros'' Democracy Alliance. A photo of event published (4/16/07) in NY magazine
05/18/07: Obama fundraiser hosted at mansion of Paul Tudor Jones, giant hedge fund Tudor Investment Corp and collected $690,000 from 300 attendees reported by Greenwich Times.
Until super delegate vote at party''s convention, their votes are not valid no matter how many times they can change their minds until then....
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