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April 18, 2008 11:41 AM

Clinton, RNC On Same Page Regarding Obama's Debate Complaint

Political watchers have been debating whether or not the long Democratic nomination battle has harmed the eventual nominee by exposing him or her to the sorts of criticisms Democrats expect from Republicans, not those within their own party.

But while the fallout of the long campaign remains unclear, at least one thing is undeniable: The rhetoric coming from Hillary Clinton and the Republican National Committee in the wake of this week's tense Democratic debate is strikingly similar.

Following the debate, Barack Obama complained that "it took us 45 minutes before we even started talking about a single issue that matters to the American people."

"They like stirring up controversy and they like playing gotcha games, getting us to attack each other," Obama added. "Senator Clinton looked in her element. She was taking every opportunity to get a dig in there. That's her right to kind of twist the knife a little bit ... that's the lesson she learned when Republicans did it to her in the 1990s."

The RNC and Clinton responded to Obama's comments with statements that sound virtually identical notes.

Here's the RNC's Alex Conant: "Bottom line: If Obama’s buckling to 45 minutes of direct questions now, how would he ever handle the responsibilities of the White House?”

And here's Clinton: "And I know he spent all day yesterday complaining about the hard questions he was asked. Being asked tough questions in a debate is nothing like the pressures you face inside the White House."
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by davthewav1 April 21, 2008 1:58 AM EDT
A damning photograph from the press filing room at the debate shows that no less than five members of the ABC News and local ABC affiliate press corps were not wearing flag pins. And yet, this is as they covered the very same debate where they asked Obama why he doesn''t wear a flag pin and if that means he hates America. What does this say about their support for our troops and love of our country?

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by pepperwood2 April 20, 2008 11:36 PM EDT
The Inconvenient Truth!

Will some white Democrats not vote for Obama due to his race? Say it isn''''t so!!

"Gov. Ed Rendell, one of Hillary Rodham Clinton''''s most visible supporters, said some white Pennsylvanians are likely to vote against her rival Barack Obama because he is black".

%u201CYou''ve got conservative whites here, and I think there are some whites who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate%u201D.

If I%u2019m not mistaken only Democrats can vote in the Democrat primary. So is Rendell admitting that there are white Democrats that won%u2019t vote for Barrack Obama due to his race? That%u2019s an interesting claim. I wonder what does Rendell thinks about blacks that support Obama because he is black and won%u2019t vote for Hillary because she is white. More then likely Rendell would squirm like a worm on a hook if asked that question. Are the white men that are support Hillary Clinton racists? So Rendell is admitting that there are not only racist white Democrats but also racist black Democrats. It seems it goes further then that as well. Ed has also admitted that no all racist live in southern states, but they also live in northern states. Ed also exposed the illusion that all conservatives are registered Republicans. Everything Rendell has mentioned is common knowledge among people willing to do the research and use common sense.
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by b-easy63 April 20, 2008 5:04 PM EDT
Experience really does matter. If I were trying to decide who to hire for an important position in a company I own, then I would look closely at the person%u2019s experience. I would want to hire the person who had accomplished the most in the past%u2014not the person who just talked about all the big things he wanted to do in the future.
Posted by RobinVZB at 01:47 PM : Apr 20, 2008


Name all the experience HRC has NOT connected to her piggybacking on her husband''s jobs.

Most of us are looking at experience--especially the lies and the way they are running each of their campaigns--that gives us a birds eye view of how they control and manage finances, choose leaders and strategies and how they conduct themselves. One of them (HRC) disturbingly resembles the antics, prowess and mindset of Dubya.
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by b-easy63 April 20, 2008 5:02 PM EDT
bama says he wants to heal the racial divide in this county. He says that we should focus on our common goals. Hey, I agree with that! T
Posted by RobinVZB at 01:44 PM : Apr 20, 2008


To endorse or support HRC is to endorse her tactics, ensuring in every other election after that, that racially divisive tactics will be used. But not only that, dirty smear Republican tactics (like HRC has been using) will become the norm for Democrats like it has for Republicans. Any vote for Hillary is a vote for a liar and trash politicking.
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by b-easy63 April 20, 2008 4:59 PM EDT
Obama was only 8 years old when the Weather Underground did their dirty deeds...But Bill Clinton was a grown up man and President when he pardoned 19 of those terrorists for those same dirty deeds.

Who is in bed with who?
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by robinvzb April 20, 2008 4:52 PM EDT
I am bothered by the lack of judgment and ethics that Obama showed in the whole Rezko business. Obama wanted to buy a house in Chicago. The owner said she would only sell it if she could sell the lot next door, too. Obama did not have enough money to buy the lot so he allowed Rezko to spend $600,000 to buy the lot so that Obama could buy the house. Granted, under the law, this can%u2019t be considered a gift because Rezko did not give the lot to Obama. However, this was a very expensive favor to Obama. Money corrupts are political system. What exactly did Rezko expect to get out of this deal? How could Obama think that it was ethical for a public official to take such a big favor (even if it was not illegal)? I think the whole incident shows that Obama%u2019s character and judgment is bad.
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by robinvzb April 20, 2008 4:47 PM EDT
Experience really does matter. If I were trying to decide who to hire for an important position in a company I own, then I would look closely at the person%u2019s experience. I would want to hire the person who had accomplished the most in the past%u2014not the person who just talked about all the big things he wanted to do in the future. A senator who wants to be President should work hard at building up a proven track record of getting important legislation passed and at influencing public opinion. This also gives the public a longer time to get to know and trust the person%u2019s character. It is hard to be sure of a person%u2019s character when you have only known the person a short while. Obama should have been more patient. He should have taken time to build a more solid foundation to his career.
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by robinvzb April 20, 2008 4:44 PM EDT
Obama says he wants to heal the racial divide in this county. He says that we should focus on our common goals. Hey, I agree with that! The problem is Obama says that, but he also says that his grandmother was a typical white woman with a negative, inbred response to anybody that was different than her and he says small town people have an antipathy to anybody who is different than them. I know he has known some white people who hate other races; I know some of them too. But most white people are not like that. How can he heal the racial divide if he goes around using negative racial stereotypes? I think he has done a great injustice to his own white supporters. If most white people were opposed to anybody different than them, then he wouldn''t have been able to gain such support among the white community. I also think he has done a disservice to the memory of his mother-a white woman who obviously did not judge others by the color of their skin. I think he has also done a disservice to many in the black community who have worked so hard to discourage racial stereotyping--by doing the very thing that they have been working so hard to eliminate. If we want to heal the racial divide, we must all work hard to eliminate negative racial stereotypes.
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by syofie April 20, 2008 2:56 PM EDT
Obama proved to be a sissy coward in the debate. The debate also showed Obama''s dark side to the public. Just wait till the Republicans get ahold of him the Fall. Poor crybaby Obama. Hillary is tough and has proven she can withstand the heat. Obama has proven the opposit. Obama should drop out of the race, he''s hurting the democratic party.
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by besscannon-2009 April 20, 2008 2:55 PM EDT
Contrary to the argument Obama supporters are putting out about him only being 8 when the bit come out originally about the Weathermen underground, it was still active when he was grown and became Ayers buddy. Between Ayers, Rezko and Wright, this shows something dark and sinister being attempted to be hidden about
BHO until he had the nomination locked up and it was too late for us to change our minds. This is why Obama has been so frantic to end it while he is ahead. He knows when the truth comes out he will lose votes so, he wanted it decided before that happened. Wise up, people, before you make a serious mistake that gives control to groups that want to take down our way of life. Remember how GREAT they thought HITLER was at first? He went after the young people, too. Does that tell you anything?
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by popstom1 April 20, 2008 1:44 PM EDT
Obama whinee little bi-tch boy
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by michael0004 April 20, 2008 5:04 AM EDT
ksh1022:

Seems I remember Hillary crying the blues about: "pile on politics." And then there was the time she was whining about "always getting the first questions." And you have the never to talk about Obama. He said: Bring it on.

Posted by rufisgufis at 11:58 PM : Apr 19, 2008

Yeah, and the one time they did bring it on, he complained non stop. Lot''s of words come to mind when I think of Obama: one way, hypocrite, liar - yes, that is not a misprint, he is a liar, misleading peoples by saying that he does not accept money from lobbying and telling people that they do not have anyone lobbying for them (ordinary Americans are represented by oranizations such as AARP, unions, etc., who do lobby for their members who are ordinary Americans), just to name a few examples. But I think the worst trait of Obama is his tacit approval of his supportors playing the race card over and over again while at the same time accusing the Clintons and their supporters of being racists. The latest instance of this is being reported by the CNN wing of Obama campaign headquarters reporting on Obmaa supporters complining that criticing Obama about his "bitter" remarks amounts to Clinton calling him an "uppity black man". It not only is a lie, this sort of racial politics will only serve to hurt Obama in the general election. Although he and his supporters can get away with it with the ultra politically correct Democrats, it will backire against a Republican.
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by rufisgufis April 20, 2008 2:58 AM EDT
ksh1022:

Seems I remember Hillary crying the blues about: "pile on politics." And then there was the time she was whining about "always getting the first questions." And then there were the several times she actually cried on TV. And you have the never to talk about Obama. He said: Bring it on.
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by rufisgufis April 20, 2008 2:53 AM EDT
I''d rather have an inexperienced honest man than an experience liar any day of the week.
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by rufisgufis April 20, 2008 2:53 AM EDT
I''d rather have an inexperienced honest man than an experience liar any day of the week.
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by rufisgufis April 20, 2008 2:53 AM EDT
I''d rather have an inexperienced honest man than an experience liar any day of the week.
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by ksh1022 April 20, 2008 1:33 AM EDT
Do we really want Obama the inexperienced junior senator with anti-american racist ties to his minister of 20 years who is whining about some tough questions? What will he get if he were elected? He better be able to take it. He better be able to take it and still accomplish his goals. This is what Bill Clinton did. The Repubs threw everything at him for 8 years and still he did more for the average citizen then the last 3 Repub. presidents. Hillary is tough like this. She will probably be a better president than Bill and he was very, very good. We need a fighter. We need someone with her strength and convictions. We need Hillary not Obama.
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by elevando April 20, 2008 12:36 AM EDT
Why are the Obama supporters complaining about the debate? Obama and Clinton are running on the same platform, agreeing on maybe 98% of the issues. Also, we have seen 20+ debates already, so it was refreshing to see a debate about character. C''mon, Obama supporters don''t be so militant.
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by liberty4you April 19, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"Here''s the RNC''s Alex Conant: "Bottom line: If Obama%u2019s buckling to 45 minutes of direct questions now, how would he ever handle the responsibilities of the White House?"%u201D

Looks like the GOP likes the 45 minute lie.

Remember the UK"s Prime Minister propagating Saddam''s 45 minute

missile attack on the UK? The Republicans bought it too.

Jack Straw, the UK"s former (Defense Secretary?) Shadow Warrior

Took the Downing Street Memo information from a California PH.d

Student''s dissertation. Then the Bush Ad. labeled it the Niger Memo.

Wilson went to Niger and concluded the information was false.

Scooter Libby was prosecuted by Attorney Gen. Fitzgerald for plagiarizing the intelligence and lying about slandering Plume.

When American politicians GOP listen to the UK, we are in trouble.

45 minutes.... and counting.
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by ursamm April 19, 2008 6:47 PM EDT
Clinton is such a liar. He didn''t complain at all about how hard the questions were, much less do so "all day" as she said. He complained that Pennsylvanians tuning in to hear about issues got nothing but warmed over gotcha questions. He can take the heat, but neither got to talk about their agendas until after most folks were tuning out.

Speaking of liars, George S. justified the Ayers question on the ground that it hadn''t been answered. Baloney! It had been answered long ago, and he knew there was no there, there. See this article on March 10th, for example:

http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/03/10/swiftboating-obama-terror-ties/

George claimed that he didn''t get the question from Sean Hannity (it was just a coincidence, I guess), but had been tracking the question for months. If so, then why didn''t he know that it had been answered?
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