Clinton: Ticket With Obama May Be "Where This Is Headed"
Still glowing from her big wins in Ohio and Texas, Hillary Clinton made some news this morning on CBS's The Early Show when she suggested that a Clinton/Obama general election ticket was a real possibility.
Co-anchor Harry Smith fueled the flames of speculation when he said to Clinton, "We talked to a lot of people in Ohio who said there really isn't that significant a difference between you two, and they'd like to see you both on the ticket."
It was a question the New York senator could have easily sidestepped. But she chose to answer it head on.
"Well, that may, you know, be where this is headed," Clinton said. "But of course, we have to decide who's on the top of the ticket, and I think that the people of Ohio very clearly said that it should be me."
The prospect of a Clinton/Obama ticket has been suggested countless times by pundits and Democratic voters who are torn between the two superstar candidates. And while Clinton and Obama have both alluded to the possibility of joining forces in the past, this seems to be the first time that either has left the door so wide open.
Co-anchor Harry Smith fueled the flames of speculation when he said to Clinton, "We talked to a lot of people in Ohio who said there really isn't that significant a difference between you two, and they'd like to see you both on the ticket."
It was a question the New York senator could have easily sidestepped. But she chose to answer it head on.
"Well, that may, you know, be where this is headed," Clinton said. "But of course, we have to decide who's on the top of the ticket, and I think that the people of Ohio very clearly said that it should be me."
The prospect of a Clinton/Obama ticket has been suggested countless times by pundits and Democratic voters who are torn between the two superstar candidates. And while Clinton and Obama have both alluded to the possibility of joining forces in the past, this seems to be the first time that either has left the door so wide open.
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See all 57 Commentsa. raises her to par with Obama in the public''s eyes
b. invites the Obama camp to trade places with the Clinton camp as the divisive force
c. would solve the finance problem.
On c,
Both candidates have spent more than the 2004 candidates combined to get this far, and neither has clinched the nomination. Whoever fails to secure the nomination will not see that kind of war chest again without first securing office. This goes for Obama, too. It''s a tentative feeler offer to cut losses and I sense Pelosi and Reid lounging somewhere in the shadows.
As for those who claim that "they would vote McCain" (Bush pt. 3): Vote McCain. An Obama/Hillary or Hillary/Obama ticket would take 65% of the women, 100% of the African Americans, 90% of the Latino vote, half of the white male vote, 80% of the independent vote, the senior vote and establish a Democratic Stronghold in the South that would cut the Republican power base in two.
Simple physics, man. I''m just afraid that Obama''s team won''t play ball, in which case, he needs to sign up Edwards. Fast.
THAT''S what I want to hear!
Look at the states Obama has won; count their Electoral votes. Clinton wins in a landslide. So Obama wins the southern vote, except Florida, it won''t matter because those states will go McCain any way. Look at the past two elections and compare the Obama wins with those vote Republican anyway. You will see that he does not have a prayer if he is just counting on those states. Finally count the overall popular vote of all of the states so far - Clinton wins in a landslide. However, the one the counts is the electoral count, and Clinton wins against Obama and McCain.
But then of course, diggets are hard to count.
Look at the states Obama has won; count their Electoral votes. Clinton wins in a landslide. So Obama wins the southern vote, except Florida, it won''t matter because those states will go McCain any way. Look at the past two elections and compare the Obama wins with those vote Republican anyway. You will see that he does not have a prayer if he is just counting on those states. Finally count the overall popular vote of all of the states so far - Clinton wins in a landslide. However, the one the counts is the electoral count, and Clinton wins against Obama and McCain.
But then of course, diggets are hard to count.
Listen to the issues, what are we voting for?
Perpetual War
Unfair taxation of the middle class
High prices for energy and everything else
High medical costs and prescription drugs
Pollution
Corruption
Religious hypocrisy and abuse of church status tax laws
Degradation of our infrastructure
Continued export of American jobs to overseas slave labor
Decline in US stature and respect of the world community
You decide.
Perpetual War
Unfair taxation of the middle class
High prices for energy and everything else
High medical costs and prescription drugs
Pollution
Corruption
Religious hypocrisy and abuse of church status tax laws
Degradation of our infrastructure
Continued export of American jobs to overseas slave labor
Decline in US stature and respect of the world community
Why are Republicans so blind?
That being said, if Hillary wins the nomination, I will still support her.
Additionally, I have been saying for months that these two on a ticket together would be unstoppable! I would love nothing more than for them to work together for our country. There WILL be a Democrat in the White House in 2009, so I believe our party should make the best of a great situation and put these two together.
Remember that the Vice-President election is its own separate election, so it''s definitely possible that WE THE PEOPLE could decide for them!
Tom Delay
Bill Frist
Scooter Libby
Karl Rove
Jack Abramoff
Duke Cunningham
Rick Santorum
Larry Craig
George W. Bush
Richard Cheney
What has this Republican Party done over the last Administration to promote any Moral Family Values?
Besides War, Corruption, Deaths and Destruction?
Hey Democrat, I have been doing my research, that is why I am not Pro Obama no more, nor Pro Hillary. I have even met Obama in person. In fact I live right next to his church. But after hearing a lot of his personal views, I can''t say that i can support him anymore, in fact it scares me. Hillary only says what is popular so that she can win. I believe Obama is much more honest than Hillary, but if I take upon their views, I personally believe it will hurt my sons.
Look at the states Obama has won; count their Electoral votes. Clinton wins in a landslide. So Obama wins the southern vote, except Florida, it won''t matter because those states will go McCain any way. Look at the past two elections and compare the Obama wins with those vote Republican anyway. You will see that he does not have a prayer if he is just counting on those states. Finally count the overall popular vote of all of the states so far - Clinton wins in a landslide. However, the one the counts is the electoral count, and Clinton wins against Obama and McCain.
But then of course, diggets are hard to count.
This is not true %u2013 or else she would be winning%u2026 - though with a comment like this I highly doubt you have %u201Cdone your research%u201D
I am not posting to argue, just think about it for a second, isn%u2019t it really up to you to raise your children? Not the government! But, we live in a free country that should respect the rights of its people %u2013 and that means even those that you don%u2019t like or won%u2019t tolerate. A president will never be a 100% perfect fit for everyone, but we need to look at who will have the best interests of this country in mind %u2013 and that includes everyone.
If we all had to commit to voting one way or the other without the wherewithall to change our minds as circumstances dictate, we wouldn''t need a general election. The outcome would be a foregone conclusion.
Are you telling me that you''re so rigid that you always vote a straight party ticket?
Hillary constantly throws the idea we need a Women President. Obama never through the race card not once. Not to mention her tactics on trying to throw any negative thing at Obama shows me enough that she is willing to do anything to win at any cost. I have saw more negative ads over this weekend, than any other time. Hillary has no honor. It really doesn''t matter much to me that she is a woman, but her lack of honor totally turns me off.
Look at the states Obama has won; count their Electoral votes. Clinton wins in a landslide. So Obama wins the southern vote, except Florida, it won''t matter because those states will go McCain any way. Look at the past two elections and compare the Obama wins with those vote Republican anyway. You will see that he does not have a prayer if he is just counting on those states. Finally count the overall popular vote of all of the states so far - Clinton wins in a landslide. However, the one the counts is the electoral count, and Clinton wins against Obama and McCain.
But then of course, diggets are hard to count.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/25/143910/715
Here is a nice excerpt: %u201CBarack Obama used the race card to paint Hillary and Bill Clinton as racists, he got a free pass from the media and from Democrats. I remember how Obama surrogates -- I believe the "neutral" Clyburn was first -- popped up at the opportune moment before South Carolina to say that Bill Clinton''s "fairy tale" remark was racially "offensive." They next turned their attack on Hillary to say that her accurate comment about LBJ passing a law was racist. When Obama was accused by Clinton on Meet the Press of fanning these flames, he went on TV righteously defending himself, saying that Hillary''s accusation was silly and desperate. Two days later at the debate, Russert held up a 7-page memo prepared by Obama''s campaign leaving Obama with no choice but to accept responsibility. Not until that moment did Obama publicly state that Clinton was not racist. Only because he was caught on national TV.
And as far as needing a woman president %u2013 how is that a lie? Sounds like a good idea to me%u2026
I%u2019m sorry, like it or not politics are negative%u2026 her comments don%u2019t represent a lack of honor%u2026 that is a big accusation, and a bit disrespectful I might add.
While a woman President would be welcome, she is not it. She is the quintessential self serving political hack and wants to be president for self aggrandizement. Being in bed with corporate lobbyists, se will not change politics an iota. As an Independent, I support Obama not because he is all that I would like to see in a President, but because of the promise and potential that he might change the way politics is done in this country. She is a hegemonist and a militarist in the tradition of the hawkish politicians of this country. Obama speaks about %u201Cchanging the mind set that gets us into wars". That difference is critical at this juncture.
Whoever said they are voting for Ron Paul... seriously?
He wants to repeal Affirmative Action. He wants to repeal Roe v. Wade. He wants to abolish the minimum wage. He supports offshore drilling, no fuel production taxes, mining on federal land, and conservation efforts.
He might as well be Charlton Heston as far as guns go. He''s opposed to separation of church and state. He opposes gay rights.
Do you really want another President that doesn''t believe people can make choices for themselves (religious, personal, or ethical), that only the rich should get tax breaks, that would destroy our environment, and that would drive our school systems into the ground even more?
Oh wait, you might want to reconsider McCain, too.
"It is clear from Sen. Clinton''''s idea of including Sen. Obama as her running mate is that she recognizes she has no chance of winning the general election without him."
- I do agree with this point. Who else would she choose?
"Well known as a divisive force, she has further alienated a lot of people by her Machiavellian tactics (use race, religion, falsehood, etc.), as she has done in Ohio & Texas, and she knows it. She is dishonest, but not stupid. She knows she needs Obama, but Obama does not need her."
- Again, I agree. There have been some rather childish low blows to Obama. I don''t necessarily agree that she''s made all the blows, but when you have campaign staffers do the dirty work, it''s guilt by association.
"While a woman President would be welcome, she is not it."
- That I don''t agree with. Like I said before, if she gets the nomination, sure, I''ll put a Hillary sign in my yard and vote for her.
(con''t)
"She is the quintessential self serving political hack and wants to be president for self aggrandizement. Being in bed with corporate lobbyists, she will not change politics an iota."
- I somewhat agree. Since being First Lady, her M.O. has been to get into the Oval Office herself. Don''t forget we called them "Billary" for quite some time, and for good reason. I do wonder about her sincerity, whether or not she is in it for herself, or in it for all Americans. With Obama, there''s no question he''s in it for us.
"As an Independent, I support Obama not because he is all that I would like to see in a President, but because of the promise and potential that he might change the way politics is done in this country."
- THIS is what "I totally agree" with. :)
"She is a hegemonist and a militarist in the tradition of the hawkish politicians of this country." - Eh, not so much. I like the idea of a balanced government, but if we want true change to come about, it will have to be with one party in control of all three branches. We''re at a stalemate right now, and nothing is happening.
"Obama speaks about %u201Cchanging the mind set that gets us into wars". That difference is critical at this juncture." - Agreed.
Either way, I think both sides are bad. I think the right wing is greedy, racist, and hypocritical. And the left wing is pro-gay, pro-feminist, with some really twisted views on Christianity(it will almost make me feel better if they would claim to be not Christian instead)
Either way, I lose. If I wasn''t a Christian, then maybe I would be happy, yet I would most likely be blinded to the things that I am seeing now. I just can''t take the polical stance of the democrats even though I do believe they have the better economical plan.
HE SHOULD COME OUT AND SAY SHE IS IN OZ IF SHE THINK I WOULD CHOSE HER.
HE NEEDS TO COME OUT AND SAY TO AMERICA IF YOU WANT BUSH 2 (MCCAIN) IN OFFICE THEN HAVEING CLINTON ON ANY TICKET WOULD DO THAT.
THATS WHY I CHOSE JOHN EDWARDS AS MY V.P.
THEN SHE WOULD LOSE ALL THE REMAINING STATES BY TRIPPLE DIGGET...
REMEMBER THE REPS WANT CLINTON BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY WILL BEAT HER IN A NATIONAL VOTE. I WOULD AND MANY OTHER IND/DEMS WOULD VOTE MCAIN INSTEAD OF HAVEING HER IN ANY PART OF THE WHITEHOUSE.
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