From The Road
February 18, 2008 1:25 PM

Obama Defends Use of Mass. Gov.'s Words

(CBS)
From CBS News' Maria Gavrilovic:

YOUNGSTOWN, OHIO -- Barack Obama visited a titanium plant in Ohio today where he spoke about job loss and the economy. However, he could not evade questions about alleged plagiarism and his speeches.

“I've written two books, wrote most of my speeches, so I think putting aside the question that you just raised in terms of whether my words are my own, I think that would be carrying it too far,” Obama told a reporter at press conference in Niles.

Regarding the issue of whether or not he lifted words from one of Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick’s speeches, Obama said the two are friends.

“Deval and I do trade ideas all the time, and he's occasionally used lines of mine and I, at a JJ dinner in Wisconsin, I used some words of his.”

Obama was quick to point fingers at Hillary Clinton, who he says has used his words on the stump.

“When Senator Clinton says its time to turn the page in one of her stump speeches or says she's fired up and ready to go, I don't think that anybody suggests that somehow she’s not focused on the issues that she's focused on.”

Obama is campaigning in Ohio and Wisconsin today, where he has been aggressively pursing the blue collar vote. He has been touting his own economic policy and criticizing Clinton for her support of NAFTA and permanent trade relations with China.

“Now the years after her husband signed NAFTA, Senator Clinton touted the free trade agreement as First Lady and called it a victory in her book. She also supported permanent trade with China when she was running for the Senate,” Obama argued.

“Now that she is running for president she says that we need a time out on trade. No one knows exactly when this time out will end, may be after the election.”

Obama also spoke about his meeting with John Edwards yesterday, which he said was the first time the two met in person since Edwards suspended his campaign. Obama said Edwards is still mulling over the idea of an endorsement and that a decision is not imminent.

However, Obama emphasized that meeting with voters is more valuable to his campaign than are big endorsements.

“Right now what I think is most important is for me to make sure that I'm getting out and talking to voters and we may be getting to the stage of the campaign where endorsements are helpful,” Obama said.

“But what's most helpful ultimately is that people have a sense that I will be fighting for them in the White House, that my priorities are their priorities. If they know that, then endorsements will probably have less sway.”
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by atomicrock February 18, 2008 2:35 PM PST
As an european watching the election hype I am a bit confused by the whole process.I am no fan of hilary but I fail to understand the ''magic'' of Obama.No doubt he is a good speaker but he has not had one single achievement in political life!
HE calls himself(!!!!) visionary and that is a bit like someone asking for people''s vote saying he''s brilliant! You do things brilliantly and then people should say you are brilliant.In the same way you cannot claim to be a visionary when you have no vision at all about the future of USA and have very similar proposals as clinton! Pray tell me what Mr Obama''s visons are?!! He reminds me of the britney,lohan celebrity culture where anyone who speaks well(now we know even the words were borrowed) and presents himself well can be your next president.The media loves to jump on the bandwagon just to show it can create celebrities out of nothing!If so how about making Scarlett Johansson the next president atleast we europeans will keep the her picture in our offices!
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by nanalulu-2009 February 18, 2008 2:45 PM PST
As someone who has worked in higher education for 36 years, the issue of plagiarism and intellectual property is one that comes up quite often.

If someone (Obama) is to borrow words used by his friend, the least he could have done is to say, "As someone once said, . . . " Since he didn''t do that, it was assumed that these were his words, uttered for the first time.

Obama''s rhetoric seems to be winning the election, but can''t it at least be his own?
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by nanalulu-2009 February 18, 2008 2:47 PM PST
As someone who has worked in higher education for 36 years, the issue of plagiarism and intellectual property is one that comes up quite often.

If someone (Obama) is to borrow words used by his friend, the least he could have done is to say, "As someone once said, . . . " Since he didn''t do that, it was assumed that these were his words, uttered for the first time.

Obama''s rhetoric seems to be winning the election, but can''t it at least be his own?
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by repdemapart February 18, 2008 3:20 PM PST
One one (1) question these acndidates:

WHAT IS YOUR GREATEST ACCOMPLISHMENT IN YOUR PUBLIC LIFE?

The answer will be very TELLING. We will know who not to vote for. I''M JUST SAYING!
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by realpatriot1 February 18, 2008 3:25 PM PST
All of the media outlets who are trying to make a story out of this trivia are attributing the source of it to a "rival campaign".

It''s quite ironic that the so-called victim of a right wing conspiracy who has been tested and is ready for the republican smear machine is stooping to such desparate and slimey tactics that will ultimately overplay her hand like Ken Starr overplayed his.

The Clinton backers and the GOP, both desparate to bring Obama down with whatever straws they can grasp at are jsut playing into his hands.

Whatever happened to the substance you all claim to want to talk about?
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by stouchst February 18, 2008 3:32 PM PST
Hey NoTruthBeTold,

Do not post links to youtube and per it to be news. Youtube is not news my friend. If your gay friend has a soiled t-shirt, ala Monica Lewinsky style dress, then take it to the FBI. Otherwise, link to some real news if you want to post on news site blogs.
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by truthspeake2 February 18, 2008 3:32 PM PST
...no smoke, no fire here!
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by ike-3 February 18, 2008 3:34 PM PST
the issue is simple. bring obama down at all cost
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by easeup-2009 February 18, 2008 3:36 PM PST
Obama--"Four score & seven years ago I said to ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. I am not afraid of questions about my speeches because the thing I fear is fear itself."
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by jlelijah February 18, 2008 3:39 PM PST
What complete *** this is. It shows only that our so-called "journalists" and others are having a hard time finding anything negative about this man, so they''re reaching even lower than usual. Obama will have to work hard to keep things positive, intelligent and honest. He''s doing a great job of that so far.
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by karl210 February 18, 2008 3:41 PM PST
Man, if anybody was questioning whether Obama could handle the republican machine...these attacks on him now are as varied and baseless as any I''ve ever seen from the Republicans. Regarding the "borrowed" words, his friend specifically told him NOT to cite him (it would *** the fluency of the speech, weakening the point). Regarding his suggested lack of details: www.barackobama.com do you guys really want him to describe, in every speech, where every penny would go in the first year of his presidency? If you care so much, do some research, or at least read his book!!
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by omega39-2009 February 18, 2008 3:41 PM PST
The Clinton backers and the GOP, both desparate to bring Obama down with whatever straws they can grasp at are jsut playing into his hands.

Whatever happened to the substance you all claim to want to talk about?

Posted by realpatriot1

The establishment has offered us their preferred candidates, Republican light and Republican light, Obama throws a wrench into their plans.
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by stouchst February 18, 2008 3:42 PM PST
MR. LIM, HILARY BLEW THE $100 MILLION DOLLARS THAT SUPPORTERS SUCH AS YOURSELF BUNDLED TOGETHER TO SUPPORT HER CAMPAIGN. SHE DOESN''T HAVE ANY MONEY TO RUN COMMERCIALS. WHY SHOULD BARACK OBAMA GIVE HER FREE AIR TIME. THIS WEEKEND, I SAW BARACK''S COMMERCIAL EVERY 15 MINUTES. I DID NOT SEE ONE CLINTON COMMERCIAL. I DON"T THINK SHE WAS "READY FROM DAY ONE" TO RUN AN EFFECTIVE CAMPAIGN. MY SUGGESTION FOR YOU IS DON''T WASTE A VOTE ON SOMEONE WHO CAN''T MANAGE THEIR MONEY OR THEIR CAMPAIGN.
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by hailstorm4 February 18, 2008 3:42 PM PST
There is a big difference between using catch phrases that have been around for years and stealing an entire speech and delivering it as your own. I think the wheels are starting to come off of the Obama Bandwagon. He has backed out on his promise to use public financing now that he has collected more money from Lobbyists than any candidate in history. Wake up people his is a P O L I T I C I A N. He is not the Messiah that his followers have made him into. Don''t destroy our country by voting for another clueless president!
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by mbcsmith February 18, 2008 3:43 PM PST

America wants to know: where''''s the media coverage on this???? We deserve to hear the truth!


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Posted by TruthBeTold- at 03:08 PM : Feb 18, 2008

Thanks. I watched the video and can''t reach a conclusion as to it''s reliabiity. Yes, much more research should be done. The limo driver would be convincing. The shot of Obama with the cigarette hanging from his lips is telling. Also, can anyone identify the collar pin he is wearing. "Z" encircled by a star of David.
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by nobama-2009 February 18, 2008 3:44 PM PST
NOBAMA 2008

Inexperienced windbag! I''d rather see mccain screw it up for another 4 years than this guy.
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by omega39-2009 February 18, 2008 3:46 PM PST
e has backed out on his promise to use public financing now that he has collected more money from Lobbyists than any candidate in history.
Posted by Hailstorm4

According to open secrets 99% of Obama''s money comes from individual contributors, contrast with 90% for Hillary and 89% for McCain.
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by Jonathan February 18, 2008 3:47 PM PST
samrlim, Typical Clinton FUD. Let me guess. Everything you know about Obama is based on what she told you, right?

Go to his website. He has a more comprehensive plan then Clinton in many cases. *sighs* I''m so sick of the Clinton FUD machine.
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by tazmjam February 18, 2008 3:48 PM PST
Perhaps Obama should explain why he supports the Peruvian Trade Agreement, which is an extension of NAFTA.
Now that he%u2019s campaigning in Ohio, which has lost a lot of manufacturing jobs, he%u2019s talking about NAFTA as if he%u2019s against free trade. His commercials now playing on the radio in Ohio are once again half-truths.
Obama, why don%u2019t you explain why you do support free trade? Why don%u2019t you explain why you do take money from state based lobbyist? Why don%u2019t you admit you%u2019re not the first candidate to say they want to close corporate tax loopholes?
There is nothing original about any of his ideas for change. All this adoration Obama accepts as his due is disgusting. JFK and MLK Jr. earned the adoration of millions through blood, sweat, and tears, not inspiring words alone.
It is not at all surprising that he attracts the younger voters; a generation that grew up assuming instant gratification was their due.
Of course the %u201CI want it now%u201D generation is not going to wait for their savior to prove himself before falling at his feet to worship.
Evidently anyone with the audacity to claim, %u201CWe%u2019re the ones we%u2019ve been waiting for%u201D will do.
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by omega39-2009 February 18, 2008 3:49 PM PST
Inexperienced windbag! I''''d rather see mccain screw it up for another 4 years than this guy.

Posted by NOBAMA

Nobody has presidential experience except a past president. Dubya now has "presidential experience" and it turns out he''s one of the worst in spite of his "experience".
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by hhkeller February 18, 2008 3:51 PM PST
Obama is smooth and corrupt.
Too much Harvard and too little experience. Using powerful words of others as if they are his own is corrupted in my book.
Obama think that it''s minor.
But when all you have is your words because of lack of experience the words do count more and should be authentic at least.


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by rjstolba February 18, 2008 3:51 PM PST
As a Clinton supporter, I''m embarrassed that they are grasping at straws to criticize such a piciune thing.
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by lestarr February 18, 2008 3:52 PM PST
Sen Clinton.

How many of your 37 years of ''experience'' are on the back of your stay in your husbands White House.

Plagerism, weak argument, stick to the plot
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by realpatriot1 February 18, 2008 3:56 PM PST
To those of you who aren''t familiar with how campaigns generally work, here''s some pointers for you.

1.)Candidates rarely write their own speeches and when they do they ALL take pieces that they like from what they hear from others;

2.)None of these candidates develop their own healthcare or energy or economic plans and none of them have exclusive ownership of the ideas that they end up proposing.
They all hire consultants who give them options and they pick the ones they like along with the help of media consultants and the like who tell them how their constituencies will feel about them and how their policies fit with their public image.

Obama''s ideas about vocational training and Hillary''s ideas about ending the insurance industry practice of denying coverage for pre-existing conditions are not realy their ideas at all. Obama isn''t stealing anything from her, Hillary isn''t stealing from him, htey''re both stealing ideas from the same Democratic party political policy consultants.

3.) Whoever becomes the next Democratic President will be looking to the same set of experienced individuals to fill positions in the government.

The policy differences are minor so, like it or not, it does come down to style and the relative ability to persuade others to back those policies.

Experience doe not equal achievement or ability. If it did we would be electing *** Cheney.
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by hhkeller February 18, 2008 3:57 PM PST
As a Obama supporter, I''m truly embarrassed that they are grasping at straws to criticize such a piciune thing.
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by hipster44 February 18, 2008 3:57 PM PST
HILLARY LOVES OIL, CHINA, AND EVERYTHING GW BUSH RIPPED OUR MIDDLE CLASS INFRASTRUCTURE OUT WITH.

THROW HILLARY IN THE SAME HOLE WITH BILLIONAIRE GW BUSH, AND FILL IT IN WITH LAND WASTE: PERIOD, DONE, AND FINISHED!!
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by hipster44 February 18, 2008 3:57 PM PST
HILLARY LOVES OIL, CHINA, AND EVERYTHING GW BUSH RIPPED OUR MIDDLE CLASS INFRASTRUCTURE OUT WITH.

THROW HILLARY IN THE SAME HOLE WITH BILLIONAIRE GW BUSH, AND FILL IT IN WITH LAND WASTE: PERIOD, DONE, AND FINISHED!!
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by l00ker February 18, 2008 3:59 PM PST
These Clintons folks are really on desperation hyperdrive; man, talk about doing whatever it takes to get the nomination. But what else can they do, since they don''t have a message, so they have to bean the lead batter.
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by hhkeller February 18, 2008 4:01 PM PST
HILLARY LOVES OLIVE OIL, CHINESE FOOD, AND SALAD.

GIVE HILLARY A BILLION DOLLARS
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by cobbcity February 18, 2008 4:02 PM PST
Obama is smooth, he is an excellent speaker who nothing to back it up. The public and the media are finally starting to pull back the curtain on him and it''s scary. Thank God this happened before he got the nomination!
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by hhkeller February 18, 2008 4:03 PM PST
These Obama folks are really on desperation hyperdrive; man, talk about doing whatever it takes to get the nomination. But what else can they do, since they don''''t have a message, so they have to bean the lead batter.
First Time Voter , Excuse my stupidity.
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by stouchst February 18, 2008 4:08 PM PST
Tazmjam, Obama characterized Peru as having such a small economy that it''s impact on the trade deficit or on American workers would be neglible. Also, trade would help reduce the amount of aid sent to the Peruvians to build their economy and to keep them from having to rely on the narcotics trade, e.g. Afganistan. Obama is not for closed borders or against free trade. He is merely saying that we have to use common sense. He is saying that NAFTA was a bad deal. I don''t think many Americans would disagree that NAFTA has helped to weaken the dollar and to send jobs overseas. Here is a great link which provides insight in our efforts in Peru: http://peru.usaid.gov/
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by realpatriot1 February 18, 2008 4:10 PM PST
Ok Hillary fans, let''s talk about experience.. specifically, let''s talk about experience managing other people.

We don''t have much to go on to access Obama or McCain''s management style prior to running for president.

What we have to evaluate hillary on regarding her ability to effectively manage a government program, inspire others to perform, and achieve results is the helthcare task force and White House travel office fiascos. Not a pretty sight and not one that inspires greta confidence in her ability to lead others and achieve results.

But let''s level the playing field. ll 3 have been running National Campaign Organizations for over a year, so how are they doing?

McCain almost fell under the truck several times, has had constant money problems.

Hillary had a huge lead and a $100 million war chest and a plan to have it locked up by February 5. The initial $100 million is gone and she''s had to lend personal funds to keep her operation afloat.

Obama? He raised $100 million on his own without a former President to pimp himself out on his behalf. He''s anaged that money well and has continued to keep his financial account healthy and not overspend while campaigning in every state and writing no one off. He''s planned for the long haul and has come from being considered to have no chance to win to having little chance to lose.

Mr. Trump, tell Senators Clinton & McCain who''s fired!

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by tylermalone-2009 February 18, 2008 4:11 PM PST
Voting for Obama will be a Huge mistake

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3500/obamaea5.jpg
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by mrrobur February 18, 2008 4:14 PM PST
This is an issue? Kerriissst! The Clinton''s are desperate!
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by omega39-2009 February 18, 2008 4:17 PM PST
Mr. Trump, tell Senators Clinton & McCain who''''s fired!

Posted by realpatriot1

Realpatriot1, did you read business week''s article "Is Obama good for business"? Very interesting.

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/feb2008/db20080212_645487.htm?chan=top+news_top news index_top story
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by marcuswatson February 18, 2008 4:21 PM PST
Let''s think a bit deep, more objectively. What we learn from Obama''s lack of citation incident is that, with him, we''ll be getting a President who will admit to making mistakes. Can you imagine Clinton or Bush mentioning the word "mistake" in relation to their own flawed judgments?!

What we also get in Obama is a person who understands the power of words. Either Clinton understands the power of words and is calling Obama "all talk" as a way to cut him down cheaply. Or she really doesn''t understand how important words are, which speaks to the point about her lacking quality judgment (think: NAFTA, the War). Either way--negative attacks or poor judgment--we all have to decide if we want "politics as usual" or a politics "we can believe in," a White House of distortion and lies or one of honesty.

Obama is not using words to cut his competitors down cheaply. No! He''s using language to bring people together across the false lines of race, party, region, and religion. People have responded in such numbers to the truth of our being one people that political analysts have called Obama''s campaign a social movement. When it comes time for passing legislation related to health care, immigration, the war, etc., Obama''s well positioned to get it done--because of "words." By contrast, Clinton, because she''s been socialized into a politics of partisanship and division, will be telling us, "I''m trying but Congress is stopping me."

Think carefully.
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by PulSamsara February 18, 2008 4:21 PM PST
This just in ! :
Obama plagiarizes his own kindergarten papers !
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Get a life Hillary.
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by aris-d February 18, 2008 4:22 PM PST
So what if Barack Obama uttered words or ideas from a friend and adviser. Where were the cries of plagiarism when he said %u201CE Pluribus Unum%u201D? I%u2019m sure that ditty was not his. Where the cries of foul when he said %u201Cyes we can%u201D and pushed a movement from an ethereal idea into a living reality? I mean, I%u2019m pretty sure I%u2019ve heard that a time or two as well. Where were the word police when he said %u201Clet%u2019s go change the world%u201D? I am also sure that he didn%u2019t coin that one either.

It%u2019s not what you say, it%u2019s when and how you say it. It is what your words and expressions invoke in someone%u2019s consciousness and behavior. It is also one of the greatest qualities we could possibly ask for in a leader, a quality that is a stark contrast from his opponents and bodes well for his chances to govern with success. Barack Obama will take advice and opinion from wherever he can get it and use it skillfully, wisely and appropriately. I even remember him telling Hillary that he looks forward to her advising him as well.

People have been repeating great words and stories throughout history, it is what helped us evolve. It is time to quit analyzing the words and feel the message. If you can%u2019t, that is the real tragedy.

Obama %u201908
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by smashwl7 February 18, 2008 4:23 PM PST
The key to this whole thing is Obama knows how to tell the truth when something is wrong. Hillary and Bill do not know what truth is. They lie about everything. I respect Mr. Obama he can tell the truth when something he has done is not right. Take notes Hillary fans this is true leader. God Bless him and I know the American people will do the right thing. Truth when someone makes a mistake.
Wow! Go, Obama, Go, try releasing your tax returns Hillary, try telling the truth. Remember I did not have *** with that woman! He lied to his wife he lied to his kid and he lied to the American people. Give me a Break!


Kathleen Willey Warns Obama About Clintons
January 30, 2008 3:41 PM ABC NEWS
In an open letter to Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, on the conservative website WorldNetDaily, self-described Clinton victim Kathleen Willey warns him to no be naove%u2026.to watch out %u2026and to get a shredder%u2026among other advice.
Among the unusual warnings she issues, she tells Obama to beware of "the Clintons'' secret private-investigator army, which no doubt has already been deployed to counter the threat that you present. I know that army''s tactics well. They have threatened my children and my friend''s children. They''ve threatened and killed my pets. They''ve vandalized my car. They''ve entered my home and stolen my book manuscript
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by smashwl7 February 18, 2008 4:24 PM PST
The key to this whole thing is Obama knows how to tell the truth when something is wrong. Hillary and Bill do not know what truth is. They lie about everything. I respect Mr. Obama he can tell the truth when something he has done is not right. Take notes Hillary fans this is true leader. God Bless him and I know the American people will do the right thing. Truth when someone makes a mistake.
Wow! Go, Obama, Go, try releasing your tax returns Hillary, try telling the truth. Remember I did not have *** with that woman! He lied to his wife, he lied to his kid, and he lied to the American people. Give me a Break!


Kathleen Willey Warns Obama About Clintons
January 30, 2008 3:41 PM ABC NEWS
In an open letter to Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, on the conservative website WorldNetDaily, self-described Clinton victim Kathleen Willey warns him to no be naove%u2026.to watch out %u2026and to get a shredder%u2026among other advice.

Among the unusual warnings she issues, she tells Obama to beware of "the Clintons'' secret private-investigator army, which no doubt has already been deployed to counter the threat that you present. I know that army''s tactics well. They have threatened my children and my friend''s children. They''ve threatened and killed my pets. They''ve vandalized my car. They''ve entered my home and stolen my book manuscript
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by graceanneb February 18, 2008 4:29 PM PST
Of course, it''s plagiarism, nothing less, unless the words used are a clichi in the public domain, in which case nobody should be using them. Senator Biden withdrew from his campaign years ago for doing the same thing, stealing words from the speech of another.

I taught English composition for some years at the City University, and if a student used the words of another without attribution, it wasn''t ok, with me or the administration. Isn''t that what students do when they buy papers off the internet! Shades of James Frey!

Sunday, on the McLaughlin Group, John McLaughlin asked Clarance Page, an unabashed supporter of Obama''s, if Obama''s taking from Clinton''s economic plan, using the exact words, was a problem, and he said "not at all." Believe me, if Clinton took from Obama''s plan, it would be a problem.
Since Obama is running, and winning on his rhetoric, then it would help if it were his own. Apparently, we should be voting for a 26-year old graduate of Holy Cross (the person who writes Obama''s speeches). Too bad the vocabulary at Holy Cross doesn%u2019t extend beyond "hope" and "change%u201D to %u201Cuniversal health care."

I say let''s banish clichis from speeches altogether. The campaign trail would be wonderfully quiet!
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by graceanneb February 18, 2008 4:31 PM PST
Of course, it''s plagiarism, nothing less, unless the words used are a clichi in the public domain, in which case nobody should be using them. Senator Biden withdrew from his campaign years ago for doing the same thing, stealing words from the speech of another.

I taught English composition for some years at the City University, and if a student used the words of another without attribution, it wasn''t ok, with me or the administration. Isn''t that what students do when they buy papers off the internet! Shades of James Frey!

Sunday, on the McLaughlin Group, John McLaughlin asked Clarance Page, an unabashed supporter of Obama''s, if Obama''s taking from Clinton''s economic plan, using the exact words, was a problem, and he said "not at all." Believe me, if Clinton took from Obama''s plan, it would be a problem.
Since Obama is running, and winning on his rhetoric, then it would help if it were his own. Apparently, we should be voting for a 26-year old graduate of Holy Cross (the person who writes Obama''s speeches). Too bad the vocabulary at Holy Cross doesn%u2019t extend beyond "hope" and "change%u201D to %u201Cuniversal health care."

I say let''s banish clichis from speeches altogether. The campaign trail would be wonderfully quiet!
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by hdinsight February 18, 2008 4:32 PM PST
No wonder naive college kids love Obama. They both share a passion for Cliff Notes. Seriously, I love Obama but Hillary is clearly an experienced legislator who can give America back to the people.
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by graceanneb February 18, 2008 4:35 PM PST
Of course, it''s plagiarism, nothing less, unless the words used are a clichi in the public domain, in which case nobody should be using them. Senator Biden withdrew from his campaign years ago for doing the same thing, stealing words from the speech of another.

I taught English composition for some years at the City University, and if a student used the words of another without attribution, it wasn''t ok, with me or the administration. Isn''t that what students do when they buy papers off the internet! Shades of James Frey!

Sunday, on the McLaughlin Group, John McLaughlin asked Clarance Page, an unabashed supporter of Obama''s, if Obama''s taking from Clinton''s economic plan, using the exact words, was a problem, and he said "not at all." Believe me, if Clinton took from Obama''s plan, it would be a problem.
Since Obama is running, and winning on his rhetoric, then it would help if it were his own. Apparently, we should be voting for a 26-year old graduate of Holy Cross (the person who writes Obama''s speeches). Too bad the vocabulary at Holy Cross doesn%u2019t extend beyond "hope" and "change%u201D to %u201Cuniversal health care."

I say let''s banish clichis from speeches altogether. The campaign trail would be wonderfully quiet!
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by libra127 February 18, 2008 4:36 PM PST
This article does not make clear the extent (if any) of Obama''s plagerism. There are a few points I''d like to make: 1) plagerism is a serious offense and should not be dismissed, 2) using a phrase like "yes, we can" or "let''s turn the page" does not amount to plagerism, 3) as reported here, there is no evidence of Obama owning up to anything, in fact he dismisses the question about plagerism, 4) this situation is NOT about Hillary; if indeed Obama has plagerized all or part of a speech, it is a serious sign of untrustworthiness and it is NOT Hillary''s fault. I take issue with many of the other comments posted here that draw conclusions in opposition to my points above.
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by smashwl7 February 18, 2008 4:39 PM PST
Let''s all vote for Hillary and let the goos times roll. Lets all have *** in the white house, lets all cheat on our taxes, lets all lie about our realestate deals. Let good times roll baby, I am for Hillary. We never have to tell the truth, I did not have sax with that woman! Give me a break.
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by dragontek-2009 February 18, 2008 4:39 PM PST
Yes-I an tired about Obama rehashing over and over ''Hope and change''.... sounds like chant at a holy rollers reunion. And about as phony. I would also like to hear about universal health care as much as hope and change-

That perhaps would show that Obama has any kind of empathy for what the health care issue many Americans like myself are struggling with. I doubt Mr Obama will change anything-it may tax his limited abilities.
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by smashwl7 February 18, 2008 4:40 PM PST
The key to this whole thing is Obama knows how to tell the truth when something is wrong. Hillary and Bill do not know what truth is. They lie about everything. I respect Mr. Obama he can tell the truth when something he has done is not right. Take notes Hillary fans this is true leader. God Bless him and I know the American people will do the right thing. Truth when someone makes a mistake.
Wow! Go, Obama, Go, try releasing your tax returns Hillary, try telling the truth. Remember I did not have *** with that woman! He lied to his wife he lied to his kid and he lied to the American people. Give me a Break!


Kathleen Willey Warns Obama About Clintons
January 30, 2008 3:41 PM ABC NEWS
In an open letter to Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, on the conservative website WorldNetDaily, self-described Clinton victim Kathleen Willey warns him to no be naove%u2026.to watch out %u2026and to get a shredder%u2026among other advice.
Among the unusual warnings she issues, she tells Obama to beware of "the Clintons'' secret private-investigator army, which no doubt has already been deployed to counter the threat that you present. I know that army''s tactics well. They have threatened my children and my friend''s children. They''ve threatened and killed my pets. They''ve vandalized my car. They''ve entered my home and stolen my book manuscript
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by nsadmi February 18, 2008 4:41 PM PST
Clintons, need to move on from the petty things (little kids stuff)and focus on the real ticket items. I hate a cry baby and this difference between a warrior (love a challenge) and I see no warrior . Obama do not look back. we are waiting fr you in the White House.
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