Last Thursday MSNBC dropped conservative commentator Pat Buchanan, four months after suspending him following the publication of his latest book, "Suicide of a Superpower: Will America Survive to 2025?" (Macmillan). The book contains chapters titled "The End of White America" and "The Death of Christian America."
Buchanan denied critics' charges that the book was racist, anti-Semitic and homophobic. In a column published last week he called the decision "an undeniable victory for the blacklisters."
Charlie Rose interviewed Buchanan about the book on "CBS This Morning." (You can watch the complete interview by clicking on the video player above; a transcript follows.)
Charlie Rose: Let me begin with the race for the White House. Newt Gingrich has said in the last 24 hours and on this program it's the duty of America to defeat Barack Obama because of national security, that he's riding over the Constitution. How do you assess those remarks?
Pat Buchanan: Well, I do agree that the President of the United States has used 'Obamacare' really to ride rough-shod over the prerogatives of the Roman Catholic Church, when you order the church and its institutions to engage in activities that that church has taught for centuries to be morally wrong. And I think the president has partially backed off of that, and I think he should back off entirely, Charlie.
Rose: So, what about the race so far, in terms of President Obama and his inability to defend the national security of the United States - also part of Speaker Gingrich's remarks?
Buchanan: I think the president's done a good job in the war of terror, and I disagree with some of my Republican colleagues - I think we have to move out of Iraq and move out of Afghanistan. And so I don't fault the president that much in terms of what he's done in foreign policy as I do domestic policy, Charlie.
Rose: All right. Let me begin by talking about this book. Tell us what it is that you want us to understand. The title of the book is "Will America Survive to 2025 - Suicide of a Superpower." And in the preface you say:
"The last decade provided corroborating if not conclusive period that we're in the Indian Summer of our civilization. Historian Arnold Toynbee wrote civilizations die from suicide, not by murder. and so it is. We are the prodigal sons who have squandered our inheritance, but unlike the prodigal son we can't go back home."
What do you want us to understand about Pat Buchanan's view of America?
Buchanan: What I want you to understand, Charlie, what I want the folks to read that book and understand, is that Western civilization is in its Indian Summer. It is on, in my judgment, pretty much its last legs, and I'm not sure it will survive this century.
If you look at Europe, not a single European nation has a birth rate among its native born which will enable it to survive in its present form. We do know about the economic crisis over there, but there is also an ethno-national crisis. Merkel says in Germany that multiculturalism has utterly failed. Cameron says the same in Britain. Sarkozy says so in France. We saw all the riots in London last summer where, first ethnic groups rose up and rioted all across London, and then the Londoners went along with them.
And what I'm warning about in our country is that the United States of America which is shifting to become a multi-cultural, multi-national, multi-ethic, multi-lingual country, there is nothing that's going to hold us together if we lose our common language, our common Christian, Judeo- Christian faith, our common moral consensus, which we are losing.