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November 3, 2009 7:45 AM

Schieffer: Hard Right Driving the GOP Train

While some analysts may look at today's off-year elections as a measure of President Obama's ability to influence voters and push through his agenda, CBS News chief Washington correspondent Bob Schieffer believes the real significance of the outcomes of today's races will be a measure of divisions within the Republican Party.

The landscape in two key Governor's races, in Virginia and New Jersey, is very different, and the lessons learned from each quite dissimilar.

In New Jersey, incumbent Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine is neck-and-neck with his GOP challenger, Chris Christie, with Chris Daggett and several other Independent candidates rounding out the field. Daggett may draw enough votes from either of the front-runners to affect the outcome.

In Virginia, Republican Bob McDonnell is leading Democratic candidate R. Creigh Deeds by double-digits in the fight to replace Democratic Governor Tim Kaine (who is term-limited out).

In both states (which went Democratic in the presidential election), Mr. Obama has campaigned vigorously of late. But Schieffer does not think the outcome will much reflect the president's popularity.

"Well, I think in New Jersey where it is very, very close, Jon Corzine, who is the very wealthy governor — he comes from Wall Street, of course, before he got into politics — he's running about dead-even. I think there, if Corzine does pull out a victory, it's not going to be so much because Barack Obama came there to campaign for him. It's going to be because he, again, poured a lot of his enormous wealth into negative campaign ads against his opponent. If he wins, that will be the difference this time around.

"In Virginia, a much different case. There the Republican has opened up a very wide lead on the Democrat. In this case, Obama did come to Virginia. Of course he carried Virginia the last time, the first Democrat to do that since LBJ.

"But the Democratic candidate there comes from a rural area, and he never really connected with the African-American vote and some of the people from the urban centers and in northern Virginia [who] carried Obama to victory there. I think it's going to be a surprise if the Democrat pulls it out there.

"But I think these are curtain raisers. I don't think they'll give us much of an indication what will happen in the next presidential election. They'll just give us a snapshot of what's going on right now in two very different states."

CBS "Early Show" anchor Harry Smith suggested that despite some people's contention that the results will measure the length of President Obama's coat tails — long or short? — these two races are being very much decided on an individual, local basis.

But then there's New York Congressional District 23, a different kettle of fish, where Republican candidate Dierdre Scozzafava, a moderate, bowed out after GOP conservatives threw their support to Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffmann. [The election is to fill a House seat vacated by another moderate Republican, John McHugh, named by the president to become Secretary of the Army.]

"This notion that an insurgent conservative, orthodox conservative, would come in and really unseat the party's choice for nominee there, and have a shot . . . is this a precursor of what may be happening a year from now?" Smith asked.

"I think what it is, is a snapshot of where the Republican Party is right now," Schieffer said. "The Republican Party right now is still split. And I think right now it's the conservatives who kind of have the juice. I mean, they came in there and just pushed out the Republican candidate. You had a lot of out-of-state Republicans that came in and endorsed the Conservative candidate who was on the ballot and forced the Republican to withdraw from the race.

"What this tells you is, as there is still no overriding philosophy as it were in the Republican party, you've got the hard right here and you've got the more moderate Republicans, right now I think the hard right is driving the train in the Republican Party. And I think this is the snapshot of where all that is right now, a very interesting development there."

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by ikeziskash November 4, 2009 8:14 AM EST
What exactly , policy wise, do you Obama supporters on this board consider to be an extreme position on the economy? Not supporting socialism? What is your limit on where the government should NOT be involved? I am very serious. Do you have an answer?
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by ikeziskash November 4, 2009 8:09 AM EST
Bob Schieffer,
A hard left ideologue like you can't tell the difference between hard right and middle of the road because you live in a world surrounded by naybobbing liberal smug elites. Get out of your cocoon Bob. There is nothing extreme about the largest demographic of the country you fool.
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by faceofus November 3, 2009 11:53 PM EST
Schieffer's liberal slip is showing as he rationalizes today's elections. A little like Gibbs's "naval gazing" perhaps?
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by mwenzel November 3, 2009 7:15 PM EST
It's interesting that the media goes out of their way to label Scozzafave a "moderate." Will someone explain to me how a candidate who is pro card check, pro gay marriage, pro abortion, pro bailout, is endorsed by the SEIU, and has ties to ACORN is a moderate? There is already a party that believes in these ideas it's called the Democrats. Of course there is room for moderates in the GOP, but there is not room for someone who disagrees with the base on every single important issue.
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by jaydee102 November 3, 2009 5:55 PM EST
"The far left is currently running the country. This is a disaster. This is why the far right is galvenized and will bring the center into the fray to defeat the far leftist policies of this "UnHoly Trinity" - Pelosi, Reid and Obama"

Alright, class: eyes front, and pay attention. Because statements like the one above are so distresssing and disturbing to we students of American history, this special class session has been called. Do any of you remember the "bail out" that was designed and begun by the GOP under the Bush administration? No? Well .... sigh ... your teacher recognizes your short memories and attention spans, and will explain. A while ago, the feds took billions and billions of YOUR tax money, and gave it to banks and corporations who were collapsing due to their own corruption, fraud, and malfeasance. That money - your money - was given to them NO STRINGS ATTACHED. Now - pay attention Laser Booger - IF the US were a Communist nation the feds would have completely controlled that process, telling the corps and banks what they could and could not do with that money, down to the last detail. They didn't. IF the US were a Socialist nation, the feds would have dictated the money be spent to maximise public benefit. They didn't. They gave that money - YOUR money - with NO CONTROLS and NO strings attached - so the banks and corps, naturally, "gave" it to themselves in bonuses. Historians agree that only one political system describes such govt/corporate alliance - that term is FASCISM, a hard-right ideology. The whole mess happened because, for thirty years or so, the right-wing GOP had benn busily gutting anti-trust laws, anti-fraud laws, and regulations set up by WE THE PEOPLE in response to the last time this happened, known as "the Great Depression". A gov that guts anti-monopoly laws, crushes voter control, and prevents the citizens of a democracy from regulating corporations (as the Congress is CHARGED WITH DOING in the Constitution) is correctly described as .... a FASCIST govt - a hard-right ideology. None of this is a surprise, since most Americans agree that lobbyists now control the legislative process, even writing and submitting legislation to be passed ... which can ONLY happen in a govt which historians term ... FASCIST, a hard-right ideology. Bonus info, "just for laughs": guess who Adolph Hitler, hisotrians' favorite candidate for "All Time King of the Fascsists" demonized more than any other group in his speeches? Anyone? Laser Booger? Right! It was "Liberals" whom Hitler said were the worst threat to Germany! Your assignment is to LOOK UP those speeches by Hitler, read and learn just how horrifically misled you are.

Dear God, PLEASE, read some history books! Laser, your ignorance is a direct threat to your country!!!!!!!
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by hungry1968-17 November 3, 2009 3:20 PM EST
by charles123456789075 November 3, 2009 2:23 PM EST
The far left is currently running the country. This is a disaster. This is why the far right is galvenized and will bring the center into the fray to defeat the far leftist policies of this "UnHoly Trinity" - Pelosi, Reid and Obama.






You think that the 8 years of Bush was somehow considered to be "successful"?
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by doc_holliday76 November 3, 2009 4:22 PM EST
by charles123456789075:
"The far left is currently running the country."
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HA!...HA!...HA!...ROTFLMFAO!!

If that was true, we'd already have single-payer universal health care, global warming legislation taxing fossil fuel emissions, all of our troops out of both Iraq and Afghanistan, and a tax on all republican'ts.

Since we don't have any of that, it seems as if "YOU LIE."
by jxknowles November 3, 2009 2:41 PM EST
Hard Right Driving the GOP Train, CRASH, BOOM, BANG, KAPUT.
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by charles123456789075 November 3, 2009 2:23 PM EST
The far left is currently running the country. This is a disaster. This is why the far right is galvenized and will bring the center into the fray to defeat the far leftist policies of this "UnHoly Trinity" - Pelosi, Reid and Obama.
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by hungry1968-17 November 3, 2009 2:22 PM EST
The "hard right" is driving the train, like the captain of the Titanic sailed his ship.

Bon Voyage!!
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by amasiaintl November 3, 2009 1:53 PM EST
I find it humorous that Obama is considered centrist by these sheeple posting here. It seems the indoctrination is working to perfection. Look into my eyes...you will see only what the tube tells you...you are getting sleepy...very sleepy. YOu guys are nuts! Obama hires Van Jones, founder of Storm a radical communist organization (Centrist) Obama hires Kevin Jennings a sympathizer of Pedophilia to run the safe schools program (Centrist) Obama hires Anita Dunn follower of Mao (Centrist) Obama hires Ron Bloom as manufacturing czar who decries the free market system as a joke (Centrist) You guys have me splitting a gut. Look into my eyes...you are getting sleepy, very sleepy.
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by doc_holliday76 November 3, 2009 4:34 PM EST
Hey -- people make mistakes all the time, so stop your holier than thou preaching.

BTW, wasn't it bernie kerik that little bush first nominated for Secretary of Homeland Security, a NYC Police Commissioner under rudy giuliani that pled guilty to two unrelated ethics violations after an investigation by the Office of the Bronx District Attorney, and was ordered to pay $221,000. A grand jury of the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York issued a 16-count indictment against kerik on November 8, 2007, alleging conspiracy, mail fraud, wire fraud and lying to the Internal Revenue Service. kerik surrendered to authorities the next day, was arraigned before Magistrate Judge George Yanthis in White Plains, New York, and pled not guilty to all charges. On October 20, 2009, his bail was revoked and he was jailed pending trial.

bernie kerik is still in jail, and will probably get a very long sentence!
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