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September 28, 2009 11:35 AM

Conservatives Fight "Homosexual Extremist Movement"

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Conservatives gathered at a Hilton hotel in St. Louis over the weekend for the "How to Take Back America Conference," a Phyllis Schlafly-hosted gathering where the faithful gathered to discuss issues such as "How To Counter The Homosexual Extremist Movement," "How To Stop Socialism In Health Care" and "How To Recognize Living Under Nazis & Communists."

Among the prominent speakers who traveled to St. Louis for the conference were former Arkansas Gov. and GOP presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, Republican Reps. Tom McClintock, Tom Price, Steve King and Michele Bachmann, and "Joe the Plumber," aka Samuel Wurzelbacher.

Schlafly opened the event by saying she believes President Obama is "taking us into socialism."

"That's what socialism is, government ownership of industries and the wealth of the country so that you can move it into the pockets of your friends," she said, according to St. Louis Public Radio. "And that's what he's doing."

Schlafly went on to suggest that Americans are "waking up" and that they don't want "our country to be run by czars," which she called "a Russian idea." She said of her organization, Eagle Forum, "fighting feminists is still our main object," arguing that feminism is "the most destructive force in the world."

(AP)
David Weigel of the Washington Independent reports that Huckabee, who headlined the event, told a friendly crowd Saturday evening, in reference to the United Nations, that "it's time to get a jackhammer and to simply chip off that part of New York City and let it float into the East River, never to be seen again!"

"It's time to say enough of the American taxpayer's dollar being spent on something that may have been a noble idea, but has become a disgrace!" he added. "It has become the international equivalent of ACORN and it's time to say enough!"

Retired Army Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin was the first speaker Saturday, following a prayer and a performance from Christian singer Rick Heil, according to Canada Free Press.

"You need to ask yourself, 'What price am I willing to pay?," Boykin told the audience. "What are you prepared to give up for America? Are you willing to pay the ultimate price?"

Boykin warned that "there is no greater threat to America than Islam" and asked patriotic Americans to get educated, get involved and pray.

Bachmann, Weigel reports, described the conference as a "farewell party" for embattled community organization ACORN. She said that if Republicans retake Congress next year they will "pass repealer bill after repealer bill" and proclaimed that "defunding the left is going to be so easy and it's going to solve so many of our problems."

(AP Photo/Kiichiro Sato)
Wurzelbacher was given a golden wrench and golden plunger by Reps. Price and King, the purpose of which was to throw a wrench in the works and to flush out Washington, according to the Free Press. He lamented the value placed on good speeches by politicians, quoting Benjamin Franklin's comment that "well done is better than well said."

On the conference's Web site, there is only one section available under the "listen & take action" tab: "HOMOSEXUAL EXTREMIST MOVEMENT." There, Liberty University School of Law Associate Dean Matt Barber writes that "the sin of homosexuality is the bunker-buster bomb in this war against morality."

"The very firm response by defenders of Biblical truth to the homosexual lobby's relentless assault on our nation's Judeo-Christian tradition is indeed a defensive reaction, not an act of aggression," he says. "The sheer mechanics of homosexual conduct very naturally elicits revulsion in most rational folk. Therefore, most of us would prefer not to even imagine it, much less struggle to defend against its wholesale promotion. But regrettably, our hand has been forced."

Earlier this month religious conservatives held a similar event, the Values Voter Summit, in Washington. Huckabee won a straw poll among attendees on their favored candidate for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination. Among the participants were Huckabee, Bachmann and beauty queen turned conservative icon Carrie Prejean.

To see Weigel's photos from the conference, click here.
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by JLeamer October 3, 2009 12:46 AM EDT
Do these people NOT see the similarity between THEIR feelings,actions and outspoken denunciation of homosexuality and the Nazi's, Neo-Nazi"s and KKK's identical ideology??? Or Charlemaine's warnings against Islam? Or Khomeini's suggestions about women and feminism?? Nazis,The Klan, Charlemaine and Knomeini...the Republican Party ADMITS its alignment with THESE historic groups and figures???? THAT's REALLY "American" values for you!!! These people aren't "right-wing Fanatics"...they're TOO FAR OUT THERE to be accepted as seriously sane, rational, educated human beings...except of course the smart ones who don't BELEIVE the ideology and are just USING the ignorant sheep demographic to get money, press, and political backing!!!!....you can't really fault the sheep, they're just bleeting idiots...but the Huckabees, the Prejeans, the Palins and the Bachmanns USING them, now THERE are some truly desperate (if not evil) opportunists!!!
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by mikeincleveland September 29, 2009 4:43 PM EDT
by In-God-We-Trust September 28, 2009 1:28 PM EDT
I am intollerant of your sinful actions. Practice tolerance.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (New International Version)
9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. "

********let's just make things a lot easier, ok?
let's cut with Constantine's version of things so he could collect more power for himself, and only stick with what Jesus himself said. Not some follower that lived 100 years after he did. Just what Jesus said. Because essentially, we still haven't gotten down living life like the way HE wanted us to first. Let's get that down first before we start paying attention to all of the other power ****** that tried to start their own sects of Christianity along the way with their own versions of how Jesus wanted everything to play out (just like 99% of the televangelists do today, actually.)

here's the problem with the far right candidates for 2012- the progressives in the nation are going to play hard and dirty this next time- just like you've been fighting since November 4 last year.

game on
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by AuBricker September 29, 2009 11:22 AM EDT
It seems as if Christians always needs someone to hate.Homosexuals have always been a popular target for their anger.
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by Aldymac September 28, 2009 11:15 PM EDT
The gay crowd doesn't care what anyone else thinks, they want what they want and thats all there is to their agenda, "it's all about ME", that is the mindset of that crowd. They just want to force their values on all the people and make the laws so no one can speak or anything else against them. But don't say a word about not letting them say all they want about anyone else. Remember, their's, is a one way agenda.
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by pasmalltown September 29, 2009 7:12 AM EDT
by Aldymac September 28, 2009 11:15 PM EDT
"The gay crowd doesn't care what anyone else thinks, they want what they want and thats all there is to their agenda, "it's all about ME", that is the mindset of that crowd. They just want to force their values on all the people and make the laws so no one can speak or anything else against them. But don't say a word about not letting them say all they want about anyone else. Remember, their's, is a one way agenda."
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Can't say what "gay crowd" you've been around in your life, but I can honestly say the gays I have been around ARE EXACTLY OPPOSITE in their mindset than your experience, their only "agenda", as you put it, has been to be accepted as human beings with rights equal to the rest of the country. I am wondering now if your "mindset" isn't the "ME" you speak of............ Legislating morality has not worked in the past and it will not work in the future if freedom truely rings in this country - The prohibition of alcohol is a history lesson we can all learn from.
by pkeyrich September 28, 2009 9:08 PM EDT
I think the sin of DIVORCE and MARITAL INFIDELITY is the bunker-buster bomb in this war against morality, not homosexuality. For every gay sinner, there are an estimated 9 heterosexual sinners. It's clear that conservatives, etc, do NOT speak out against DIVORCE, etc because it is not personally offensive to them.
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by carlyt1 September 28, 2009 3:59 PM EDT
These people are on a different planet. Having Joe the Plumber make a guest appearance was a nice touch. LOL. There is a related post at http://iamsoannoyed.com/?page_id=588
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by stuart-johns September 28, 2009 3:03 PM EDT
I am against homosexualism and lesbianism myself. But I don't think it's any of my business. It is between them and God. Period. And I am a left leaning independent.
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by KPeters_from_UK September 28, 2009 2:59 PM EDT
My uncle sent me this letter.

It reminds us all that we need to get cracking. We are slacking off. Rise up! Get those whips out! Sharpen those axes and chop off some heads! ;-)

For those American who hated any whisper of socailism: Please move to Somalia. They have what you have prayed for. A total lack of government involvement. There is no health care, no welfare, no state schools, no interstate highways, police force, fire departments, air force, military, National Guard, Federal Reserv e etc, etc ... Hey they do have a theocracy!
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for doing so much to educate people
> > > > regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal
> > > > from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as
> > > > many people as I can. When someone tries to defend
> > > > the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply
> > > > remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an
> > > > abomination.
> > > > ... End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however,
regarding
> > > > some
> > > > other elements of God's Law and how to follow them.
> > > >
> > > > When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I
> > > > know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord -
> > > > Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the
> > > > odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
> > > >
> > > > I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as
> > > > sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what
> > > > do you think would be a fair price for her?
> > > >
> > > > Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves,
> > > > both male and female, provided they are purchased
> > > > from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that
> > > > this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you
> > > > clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
> > > >
> > > > I have a neighbor who insists on working on the
> > > > Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. The passage clearly states he
> > > > should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to
> > > > kill him myself?
> > > >
> > > > A friend of mine feels that even though eating
> > > > shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a
> > > > lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't
> > > > agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of
> > > > abomination?
> > > >
> > > > Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed,
> > > > including the hair around their temples, even though
> > > > this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should
> > > > they die?
> > > >
> > > > I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a
> > > > dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play
> > > > football if I wear gloves?
> > > >
> > > > My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by
> > > > planting two different crops in the same field, as
> > > > does his wife by wearing garments made of two
> > > > different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend).
> > > > He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it
> > > > really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting
> > > > the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16.
> > > > Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private
> > > > family affair like we do with people who sleep with
> > > > their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
> > > >
> > > > I know you have studied these things extensively and
> > > > thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters,
> > > > so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for
> > > > reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.
> > > >
> > > > Your adoring fan,
> > > >
> > > > James M. Kauffman, Ed.D.
> > > > Professor Emeritus
> > > > Dept. of Curriculum, Instruction, and Special
> >
> >
>
>
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by rwassel September 29, 2009 3:24 PM EDT
HAHAHAHAHA - priceless words, KPeters_from_UK!
by Dakotahgeo September 30, 2009 1:40 AM EDT
I seen this before...absolutely super! These rules apply only to those conservatives who refuse to come out of the Old Testament and experience what Christ in the New Testament REALLY came for... the forgiveness of sins, AND life everlasting. The blood either covers ALL people and all sins, or it isn't worth the cross it was shed on!
by Former_Marine_Sgt September 28, 2009 2:51 PM EDT
by Whimwham September 28, 2009 1:56 PM EDT
Homosexuals may not like it and that is their right, but the conservatives speak for the majority of Americans on this issue - many of whom have no beef with homosexuals per se, they just oppose the hijacking of marriage.

Have you seen any opinion polls over the last couple of years there Whimwam? ALL legitimate polls regarding homosexual rights are showing that the majority of Americans agree that they should have rights that equal yours.

These conservatives speak for ONLY the far right religious conservatives - and no one else. The average American is a middle of the road person - neither too left or too right, not too liberal and not too conservative.
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by Henri_Rochard September 28, 2009 2:48 PM EDT
On my list of Top Ten Most Important Issues Facing the U.S., gay marriage is about 27th.

Personally, I'd prefer to use the term 'civil union' or something to describe a marriage-like ceremony between two homosexuals, but if they end up calling it a plain old 'marriage' I won't lose any sleep over it.
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by hungry1968-16 September 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT
by Whimwham September 28, 2009 1:56 PM EDT
Homosexuals may not like it and that is their right, but the conservatives speak for the majority of Americans on this issue - many of whom have no beef with homosexuals per se, they just oppose the hijacking of marriage.







The conservatives speak for themselves only, and they certainly DO NOT speak for the majority of America.

Especially since they speak out AGAINST freedom and liberty, which is the founding tenets that this nation was built on.
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by Dakotahgeo September 30, 2009 1:31 AM EDT
One needs to realize that the main reason that entire nut job conservatives are on the outside looking in is because of their beliefs, religiously and politically. They may want badly to regain their power; they may THINK they will eventually regain their power; alas, they will only be left with their conventions and conferences of their own kind, with smaller and smaller numbers. The saddest part is, they will never learn otherwise. It isn't that they're dumb. They are intelligent; they just use their intelligence in very stupid ways. They will always have a "power" outage.
by RuthCalabria September 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT
THE POLITICS OF MONEY

With the nonsense about it spouted on TV clarified

With the concepts of entropy and information

And with a personal story of judicial conspiracy and contradiction

That makes clear that we live, not in a just democracy,

But in a kingdom of clever liars and thieves



By The Calabria Family, ©, Ruth Calabria, Sept. 27, 2009, Lubbock, Texas, Contact: ruthcalabria@matrix-evolutions.com.
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by rafterman1 September 28, 2009 1:51 PM EDT
"That's what socialism is, government ownership of industries and the wealth of the country so that you can move it into the pockets of your friends," she said, according to St. Louis Public Radio. "And that's what he's doing."

No, moving wealth into the pockets of your friends is and has always been called "conservatism".
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by hungry1968-16 September 28, 2009 1:42 PM EDT
by In-God-We-Trust September 28, 2009 1:28 PM EDT
I am intollerant of your sinful actions. Practice tolerance.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (New International Version)
9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

One day you will be judged, and that judgement will last an eternity.







First of all, your campaign of "terror" isn't going to work on most rational people. And make no mistake - that passage you quoted IS an attempt at threatening someone into compliance with their beliefs and wishes. By definition, that IS "terrorism".

Secondly, the "myth-illogical" being known as your "god" doesn't exist, making it impossible that anyone will be judged.

And most importantly, that passage that you posted will prevent approximately 95% of EVERY LIVING PERSON from entering the "kingdom of god". If you ARE going to try and fear monger and scare someone into compliance with your bizarre religion, then you shouldn't try to aim your religion fueled vitriol at MOST of the population.
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by manicsquirrel_ September 28, 2009 1:36 PM EDT
I think that Schlafly and Huckabee need to brush up on what socialism is and what fascism is. They definitely want a fascist state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism:

"...a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion."

Nazi Germany wasn't socialist, it was a fascist state. To often people mistake socialism for communism, but I've never seen it mistaken for fascism.
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by agentosx September 28, 2009 1:27 PM EDT
Michele Bachmann has got to go! Democratic candidate Dr. Maureen Reed is running against her and she is the ticket to beating Bachmann's craziness! You can learn more about Maureen, and donate, at:
http://maureenreedforcongress.com/
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maureen_Reed
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by jxknowles September 28, 2009 1:18 PM EDT
Please keep putting these losers (Huck, Bach and Plumb) on the news. The more folks see how ridiculous these goofs are, the more we progress toward a better society. Teach tolerance, gain respect.
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by In-God-We-Trust September 28, 2009 1:28 PM EDT
I am intollerant of your sinful actions. Practice tolerance.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (New International Version)
9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

One day you will be judged, and that judgement will last an eternity.
by stuart-johns September 28, 2009 1:33 PM EDT
by In-God-We-Trust September 28, 2009 1:28 PM EDT

And Jesus said that His Kingdom was not of this world. So why are evangelical Christians trying to usher in His Kingdom to this world???
by stuart-johns September 28, 2009 1:38 PM EDT
by In-God-We-Trust September 28, 2009 1:28 PM EDT

I blame our church leaders. In the past few decades they have become an political activist religion and have aligned themselves with the far right wing of the republican party. The stigma of being associated with the far right, and the general ever growing depravity of men makes them virtually useless to do anything about it.

The christian church got so caught up in doing the work of the Lord that it turned its back on the Lord of the work. In doing so they built a wall around themselves and no longer have the credibility or spiritual wisdom to march into the world with their mission.

If Christians are in a spirtual battle between Satan and his demons, if they battle against evils triumps, his fiery darts as it were, if Christians are not of this world although they be in the world, if Christians are not supposed to be alarmed nor surprised at the things in the world, then why all the bashing of the non-believers???

What you do is more than an attempt to evangelize. It is an attack and very un-Christ like.

Remember Christians, you are there to simply plant the seed. God will cause the growth. Resist the temptation to be God. Have faith in God to do what He says He will do to those He has chosen.

You do well to proclaim the affront of sin to God. But you who sin and yet speak for God cannot claim that you are any different, that you are any less guilty, that you need God's grace less.

Therefore, mind your own walk with God. And when you have the opportunity to witness the gospel, witness with humility and grace.
by afmcalax September 28, 2009 2:01 PM EDT
Well with the lies, hypocrisy, hate filled messages, and intolerance for God's creations, I guess you, along with all the so-called self-righteous attending this meeting will make Hades one crowded place.
by AttentionDeficit September 28, 2009 2:19 PM EDT
In-God-We-Trust: I am not afraid of retaliation from your ancient comic book hero. Believe what you want, but don't expect people to be afraid of a being in which they do not believe
by stuart-johns September 28, 2009 2:42 PM EDT
by afmcalax September 28, 2009 2:01 PM EDT

Have you ever been to school? Can you read contextually? I was rebuking In-God_We-Trust not agreeing with them. Geeeeesh Were or are you one of the children that was left behind??
by massenga September 28, 2009 1:15 PM EDT
"In a lot of ways, things were a lot better in the 1950's." Oh, yeah. Tell it to black people in segregated buses, schools, hotels and restaurants. Tell it to women who could not get credit in their own names. The '50s were a great time indeed for American, straight white males who enjoyed high wages and nearly unlimited power over everyone else. You're mourning the loss of your hegemony, and you'll get no sympathy here.
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by squeakof2006 September 28, 2009 12:46 PM EDT
It's nice to see that there are some in our nation today that stand up for their beliefs, even when those beliefs are not as popular as a liberal agenda. In the 1950's, we didn't have 9/11, we didn't have mass school shootings. In a lot of ways, things were a lot better in the 1950's.
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by stuart-johns September 28, 2009 1:05 PM EDT
Your problem is that you STILL live in the 1950's. Holding onto traditions is good but to refuse to roll with the punches is inviting injury. That's what the republican extremists want. They want to keep the world the way of antiquity.
by rafterman1 September 28, 2009 1:54 PM EDT
Yeah, whites-only bathrooms and fountains, women barefoot and pregnant, McCarthyism. Yep, the good ol' days (for neocons).
by AttentionDeficit September 28, 2009 2:26 PM EDT
so, squeak, one side has "beliefs" and the other has an "agenda"? seems to me that what is a belief and what is an agenda depend on where you stand. people disparage beliefs they do not share by calling it an agenda.
by pasmalltown September 29, 2009 6:50 AM EDT
by squeakof2006 September 28, 2009 12:46 PM EDT -
"..things were a lot better in the 1950's.."
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Are you serious? You want to go back to Joe McCarthy for guidance?
Norman Lear said: "And every generation must deal with its own Infallibles. In the 1950's, Joe McCarthy considered himself an Infallible. To challenge his thinking or his methods was to be tagged immediately with being soft on Communism. Today, the self-styled Infallibles are known as the Religious New Right, or the Christian New Right. To disagree with their conclusions on numerous matters of morality and politics is to be labeled a poor Christian, or unpatriotic, or anti-family." ..."I like living in a country where I can speak out. I like the First Amendment. I like pluralism. I like diversity. And I like the flag; it is not the exclusive property of the far right. Call me a liberal, or a moderate, or a progressive?I think I'm a bleeding-heart conservative?but it's my flag too. It is more than a symbol of America's might. It is a symbol of America's people. Fifty stars stand for more than fifty gun boats; they stand for fifty states?and that's us."..."Responding to this time of crisis is the Religious New Right with its simplistic solutions to our most complex problems. We have lost our way, they say, because we have turned our backs on God and followed the devices and desires of our own hearts?and America's purity and strength can be restored only if the nation submits to the political and moral answers which they see as self-evident. There follow positions on the issues they feel are destroying the American family: the Equal Rights Amendment, abortion, sex education, prayer in school, gay rights, and others.
I have listened as the Moral Majority mind-set has offered these issues as an explanation for all the country's ills. I disagree.."

I disagree as well and I like what Norman Lear is saying here......
by afmcalax September 28, 2009 12:23 PM EDT
btw, the Homosexual Extremist Movement wants:
1. the ability to marry their partner in a loving, legal relationship
2. have the same legal protections and responsibilities as other married couples
2. serve honorably and openly in the U.S. military
3. be left alone to enjoy the same right and priveleges as all other Americans

How dare they???? (this is sarcasm for those that don't recognize it)
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