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August 13, 2009 1:17 PM

Palin Defends "Death Panel" Critique

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Sarah Palin is fighting back against attacks over a statement she made last weekend where she said Democrats' health care plans include "death panels."

The claim has been widely debunked as a myth by the media, but last night the former Alaska governor and Republican vice presidential nominee sought to explain and defend her original remarks.

In her new statement released on Facebook, Palin accused President Obama of making "light" of her concerns during a town hall meeting in New Hampshire on Tuesday. Mr. Obama called such panels a "rumor" and said that the provision that has been talked about within the House bill (Section 1233, which is titled "Advance Care Planning Consultation") would allow Medicare to pay for consultations with doctors about end-of-life care, but would not require them.

Palin responded by saying that the president is being "misleading."

"With all due respect, it's misleading for the President to describe this section as an entirely voluntary provision that simply increases the information offered to Medicare recipients," she said in the post. "The issue is the context in which that information is provided and the coercive effect these consultations will have in that context."

Palin argues that peopled would be pressured by their doctors to have these consultations, and that they would also be encouraged to undergo cheaper alternatives in end-of-life care. Democrats deny those charges.

Here's more from Palin's note:
"Section 1233 authorizes advanced care planning consultations for senior citizens on Medicare every five years, and more often "if there is a significant change in the health condition of the individual ... or upon admission to a skilled nursing facility, a long-term care facility... or a hospice program." [3] During those consultations, practitioners must explain "the continuum of end-of-life services and supports available, including palliative care and hospice," and the government benefits available to pay for such services.

Now put this in context. These consultations are authorized whenever a Medicare recipient's health changes significantly or when they enter a nursing home, and they are part of a bill whose stated purpose is "to reduce the growth in health care spending." Is it any wonder that senior citizens might view such consultations as attempts to convince them to help reduce health care costs by accepting minimal end-of-life care? As Charles Lane notes in the Washington Post, Section 1233 "addresses compassionate goals in disconcerting proximity to fiscal ones.... If it's all about alleviating suffering, emotional or physical, what's it doing in a measure to "bend the curve" on health-care costs?"
In addition to Lane, Palin also uses Washington columnist Eugene Robinson, Democratic New York State Senator Ruben Diaz and Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel to back up her claims.

(CBS)
Dr. Emanuel is the brother of Rahm Emanuel, Mr. Obama's chief of staff, and a health policy adviser to the president. Palin said that her original statement where she referenced "death panels," concerned statements he made. Previously, Palin spokeswoman Meghan Stapleton told ABC News in an e-mail that the "death panels" claim came from the "Advance Care Planning Consultation" provision of the House health care bill.

Palin writes: "Dr. Emanuel has written that some medical services should not be guaranteed to those 'who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens....An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia.' Dr. Emanuel has also advocated basing medical decisions on a system which 'produces a priority curve on which individuals aged between roughly 15 and 40 years get the most chance, whereas the youngest and oldest people get chances that are attenuated.'"

"President Obama can try to gloss over the effects of government authorized end-of-life consultations, but the views of one of his top health care advisors are clear enough," Palin adds. "It's all just more evidence that the Democratic legislative proposals will lead to health care rationing, and more evidence that the top-down plans of government bureaucrats will never result in real health care reform."

The quotes Palin cites come from an article Dr. Emanuel wrote in 1996 and one he co-wrote earlier this year. For his part, Emanuel said the quotes were taken out of context in interviews with the Wall Street Journal and Time Magazine.

"For 25 years, I've been a researcher, one of the first to go into the field of end-of-life care with the goal of improving it," Emanuel told the Journal. "It's a perversion of everything I've done to take one or two quotes completely out of context, without any of the qualifiers I've added, and distort them."

Meanwhile, the Democratic Congressman who wrote the now-famous provision in the House health care bill is also fighting back against the charges from Palin and others.

The Associated Press reports that Rep. Earl Blumenauer of Oregon said "the measure he supports would merely allow Medicare to pay doctors for voluntary counseling sessions that address end-of-life issues. Topics include living wills, designating a close relative or a trusted friend as a health care proxy and information about pain medications for chronic discomfort."

As for references to "death panels," Blumenauer said: "It's a blatant lie, and everybody who has checked it agrees."

Some Republicans are on record to dispel the rumors as well.

"Quite honestly, I'm so offended at that terminology, because it absolutely isn't" in the bill, Alaska Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski said, according to the AP. "There is no reason to gin up fear in the American public by saying things that are not included in the bill."

And Republican Sen. Johnny Isakson of Georgia, who has called for similar legislation in the Senate but has also distanced himself from the House wording, has also said it was "nuts" to think the provision leads to euthanasia.

The White House has also gone on the offensive again today, with an e-mail to supporters from White House senior Adviser David Axelrod that is designed to go viral. In the e-mail, Axelrod says, "It's a malicious myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for seniors. For seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about end-of life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private consultations for those who want help with these personal and difficult family decisions."
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by vudash August 26, 2009 10:35 AM EDT
Sarah declares April 16, 2008 "Death Panel Day" for Alaska..?


http://gov.state.ak.us/archive.php?id=1094&type=6
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by Luciden August 18, 2009 10:57 PM EDT
"tyranny of Obama" What's wrong with some of you people? Why is it that you naturally believe Sarah Palin but not Obama? What are you going on here? It's truly sad when someone not intelligent enough to be a run a taco stand is considered the savor of America.

And btw, if you've read the part of the bill she's talking about you'd know the truth. The truth is, she injects a lot of speculation that's no where to be found in the document. The democrats are almost as lame for removing the section because it might be missunderstood be the people. We can the morons on one side and the politicians on the other.
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by Fastone57 August 14, 2009 5:29 PM EDT
Though I don't agree with her I say Go Sarah. The more she talks at this point, the more she insures that will be a footnote in history. Just like her now mentor Newt Gingrich who was so quick to slam Bill Clinton for infidelity, something he too was engaged in.
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by drog530 August 14, 2009 2:09 PM EDT
why do we care what she thinks i don't get it
who is she
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by carlyt1 August 14, 2009 7:21 AM EDT
Palin is a hypocrite about end of life just like Gingrich. there are related posts about the two at http://iamsoannoyed.com/?page_id=588
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by glaring_falsehoods August 14, 2009 7:17 AM EDT
To Dear ladypirate2, who posted: ?[Palin] will begin to seem smarter and smarter to you compared to who you elected for president!?

Are you five?

The only way Palin would begin to ?seem smarter and smarter? is if we had elected a head of cabbage as president ------ and even then it would be a close call.

[no offense to any cabbage heads reading this post]
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by ladypirate2 August 15, 2009 1:27 AM EDT
No, I passed five years old a long time ago! In fact I've probably been voting longer than you've been alive on this earth! I stand by my statement that in the coming years Sarah Palin will look smarter and smarter to you after you finally wake up and realize the mistake you made on election day and who you voted into the presidency.
by sarrab-2009 August 14, 2009 12:40 AM EDT
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT
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by sarrab-2009 August 14, 2009 12:34 AM EDT
i 2nd that
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by sarrab-2009 August 14, 2009 12:31 AM EDT
she is 100% right on
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by woeisme1 August 14, 2009 12:17 AM EDT
It is scary to think there are people of the caliber of Sarah Palin in any kind of leadership positiion in this country.

This country is losing it's standards...we have already lost them...correction.

Does'nt she ever get embarrassed by herself? I know that if I were her I would have melted into oblivion along time ago.

Sarah Palin and the right wing republican extremists that support her are an embarrassment to themselves and to this nation.
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by ladypirate2 August 14, 2009 3:00 AM EDT
I think you'll soon see who's the embarrassment to this nation and it's not Sarah Palin! In the coming years before the next election she will begin to seem smarter and smarter to you compared to who you elected for president!
by MrBrown6824 August 14, 2009 12:16 AM EDT
"Widely de-bunked as a myth?" So far the greatest argument against her claims is "NUH-UH!" By their own confession, they say it has been removed from the bill, but it WAS THERE. This means it was put there with intent, and the intent is what we don't want. These officials are elected for representation of OUR intent when they go to Washington. A government of The People, by The People, and for The People. When The People spoke out this week, their intent was dismissed as invalid, irrational, violent, and part of a desperately led scheme by right-wing wackos.
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by pasmalltown August 13, 2009 11:48 PM EDT
I was kinda hoping Sarah would get more mileage out of her "health rationing" ideas(?)(I can only use the word, idea, as useless as she does), but here we go again - she's trying to defend her lies about "death panels". Will wonders never cease (in her own mind)? Suppose not - just can't imagine how and why people believe anything she says, but then Hilter did a pretty good job in Germany uttering lies to mask the truth to convince the masses that genocide was a "good thing" - AND, although they share different ideologies, they both can(in Sarah's case)/could(in Hilter's) rationalize truth from any statement to fit their agenda. I am not implying that Sarah is a fascist, but she sure seems to be able to "baloney bend" her way around anyone to fails to agree with her twisted sense of reality.
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by ladypirate2 August 14, 2009 2:55 AM EDT
Senator Coburn doesn't think they're lies and there are many others in the senate and the house who don't think they're lies and they have read the bill too! There also are many of us in the general public who don't think they're lies either! You will soon see that when this bill goes down in defeat!
by bobbyiw August 13, 2009 7:54 PM EDT
Sarah Palin's "death panel' insight scores big--the Senate Finance Committee has now dropped the End Of Life provision from their bill as a result of her precise analysis on Facebook. WTG Sarah!!! She even gets props from Camille Paglia, ya gotta love it...
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by tigerrram9 August 13, 2009 7:34 PM EDT
The words you see in the story are not Sarah Palin's words. I think people know by now that Sarah is cannot articulate that well. Someone else wrote that story and put her name in so as to keep her in the public lime light. Yeah Sarah you had death panels in Alaska too. What is the real reason you quit? What you are telling everyone is not true, come on the truth will come out later. Let us know the real reason why you abandoned your state. Ethic violations? Todd? Bristol? Why did you jump ship?///the truth will come out in 2012. More money on a book deal? Wow what a patriot for the American people, why stand up for your people when you are going to make big bucks on a book deal. What a true champion your are Sarah. Abandon your people for money.
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by licht1 August 13, 2009 6:28 PM EDT
First appointment to Death Panel.


See:


http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2009/08/09/paula-abdul-named-to-obama-death-panel/
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by deervalley August 13, 2009 6:27 PM EDT
The woman tells baldface lies, and is ignorant to boot. There are NO freakin' death panels. There is NO denial of people with 'pre-existing' medical conditions, there is CONTINUED coverage if you lose a job or can't afford it. There is NO change to your current coverage. The fools who believe her garbage need to listen to someone other than the right wing nuts at Faux.
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by ladypirate2 August 14, 2009 2:42 AM EDT
That is NOT what Senator Tom Coburn said in his town hall meetings yesterday! He agrees with Sarah Palin and is fighting HR 3200 with everything he can and he has been a senator for several years and has a lot of clout in Washington! He hates HR 3200! He should know because he's a licensed medical doctor. He had a medical practice in Muskogee, OK for many years before he got into politics. He dealt with insurance companies every day!

And another thing, you liberals should know about baldface lies! Obama told a BIG one Tuesday in Portsmouth, N.H. when he said that AARP had endorsed his bill! That's not the only one he's told either and you Obamabots believe every one of them!
by rbd55555 August 13, 2009 5:32 PM EDT
I live in Canada. We want a greater private component in our system, because absent a price mechanism, rationing does become a reality. It's annoying and stupid to have to wait three to five years for ACL reconstruction, as I recently learned before opting to pay cash ($7,000) to have the procedure done in a Canadian private clinic. My choice, my money. I knew would have better, much faster care by going to a private Canadian facility. I was free to do so.

The Canadian public health care system does, however, triage patients, and those who truly need emergency, critical illness care, or end of life care, receive it quickly, and never, ever do you hear about a loved one lost because "some bureaucrat on a death panel" made a decision to pull the plug.

Honestly, it deeply concerns me, and a great many people I meet and talk to as I travel the world, that Sarah Palin's rhetoric resonates with so many Americans. Good for democracy and free speach, but a rather sad statement on the general level of American education, I am sorry to say.
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by pr_boxer August 13, 2009 5:30 PM EDT
It appears to me that the opponents of health care reform have no problem telling outrageous lies. You'd think some of the lies they're telling would at least stick in their throat a little.
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by ladypirate2 August 14, 2009 2:28 AM EDT
They can't stick in their throats because they're already choking on the lies that Obama and you proponents of HR 3200 are shoving down their throats! There isn't any more room in their throats!
by diamruby August 13, 2009 5:20 PM EDT
Sarah Palin is a stupid idiot & we should all make sure she never has any political position again. She has no idea what it is like to have a handicapped child or be old & in need with no money to pay for the care needed. Alot of us have worked our whole lives & never could make enough to have health insurance, or any other kind of insurance for that matter. When we got old & no longer able to stay at home we had to go to the nursing home where they keep you drugged up, force feed you horrible food that is either half raw or overdone, there is not enough help because the pay is so bad & the ones they do have don't care. The doctor no longer comes to see you at all because he has bled all the money he can out of us & as we all know once you enter a nursing home you are essentially dead. So unless you are very wealthy you will not be able to provide a good life experience for your handicapped child or have a good end of life experience.
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by ladypirate2 August 14, 2009 2:23 AM EDT
You said that she has no idea what it's like to have a handicapped child. What do you call Trig, her baby who was born with Downs Syndrome? If he isn't handicapped what child is? Just because the Palin family might be considered rich and Trig will never be in need doesn't mean that he isn't handicapped!
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