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July 23, 2009 1:07 PM

Who Are the Birthers?

(CBS/Wikipedia)
Conspiracy theories often flourish in the wake of traumatic or game-changing events – the Sept. 11 attacks, the moon landing, the Kennedy assassination – and the election of America's first black president has been no exception.

Almost as soon as Barack Obama emerged as a serious candidate for the presidency, rumors about whether or not he is really an American, and thus eligible for the presidency, began popping up online. In response, the Obama campaign posted the Certification of Live Birth* (here it is) showing that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961.

But that did not quiet the skeptics, a group that has been come to be known as the "birthers." If anything, it encouraged them. They argued that the birth certificate is a fake, and that Mr. Obama is not the "natural born citizen" he claims to be. Mr. Obama, many birthers say, was actually born in Kenya, though there are a number of theories that fall under the birther umbrella.

The din eventually got loud enough that some reputable organizations checked out the birthers' claims – and they found no evidence to support them. In fact, there was overwhelming evidence against such claims, including Mr. Obama's 1961 birth announcement, printed in two Hawaii newspapers. Here's one detailed investigation, and here's another.

PolitiFact wrote after its extensive look at the claims a year ago:
It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice of the world's biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything's possible.

But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what's reasonable has to take over.
Yet the birthers' claims have not simply survived into Mr. Obama's presidency – they've actually gained steam. Liz Cheney, talk show hosts Rush Limbaugh and Michael Reagan and even CNN's Lou Dobbs are among those taking the birthers' theories seriously. Former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others have pushed the argument in court; earlier this month a soldier challenged his deployment to Iraq based on birther claims.

The birthers are a passionate bunch, as this video of a birther angrily confronting Delaware Republican Rep. Mike Castle handily illustrates. "Why are you people ignoring his birth certificate?," the woman asks, prompting cheers from the crowd. "He is not an American citizen, he is a citizen of Kenya."



Some Congressional Republicans have also taken up the birther cause: California Rep. John Campbell co-sponsored a bill (with at least nine others) requiring presidential candidates to submit a birth certificate, a wink and a nod action that he maintains is somehow not related to the birthers' claims. When MSNBC's Chris Matthews asked Campbell if he believed Mr. Obama is a natural born citizen, Campbell hedged, saying, "As far as I know, yes, OK?" He told Matthews, "it doesn`t matter whether I have doubts or not."

To find out why the birthers' claims have endured, Hotsheet contacted Michael Barkun, an expert in conspiracy theories and professor of political science at the Maxwell School at Syracuse University.

"There are people out there who firmly believe that the truth is always hidden, regardless of whether it's about politics or science or any other subject," he said. "That whatever is presented as public knowledge is necessarily false. That the truth is always hidden from them, regardless of what the subject is."

Pressed on why that is the case, Barkun pointed to the ability of the Internet and to a lesser extent television to disseminate conspiracy theories far more easily than ever before. He also said that, "in a strange way, conspiracy theories are comforting."

"They give people a feeling that we know the truth," Barkun said. "That we have secret knowledge, and that we know how the world really works. In a sense, we're part of a kind of elite of those who know and everybody else is misled or are trapped by illusions."

The Atlantic's Marc Ambinder, CBS News' chief political consultant, notes along these lines that "birthers now wear the term 'birther' as badge of honor, as if they were a persecuted minority -- which, come to think of it, is one mechanism for solidarity in the face of evidence to the contrary."

As Ambinder suggests, the birther phenomenon goes to the heart of the dilemma now facing the Republican Party.

"Republican presidential candidates need to figure out how to diffuse angry birthers who are bound to show up and demand their attention," he writes. "…If they give credence to the birthers, they're (not only advancing ignorance but also) betraying the narrowness of their base. If they dismiss this growing movement, they might drive birthers to find more extreme candidates, which will fragment a Republican political coalition."


*Correction: This post initially erroneously referred to Mr. Obama's Certificate of Live Birth as his original birth certificate. The original document was not released by the state of Hawaii, though Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, has said she has seen it and that it verifies Mr. Obama's birth and citizenship.

As Fukino pointed out in a statement explaining why the original was not released, "State law prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record." A spokeswoman noted that a Certification of Live Birth "is considered a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii."
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by paddyhayes August 4, 2009 1:27 AM EDT
I love the "why is he hiding it?" crowd.

He's not. The Certificate of Live Birth issued, sealed and attested by competent authority IS it.

I was born in 1961 in Kansas. My birth document is a "Certificate of Live Birth"

My wife was born in 1968 in Nebraska. Her birth document is a "Certificate of Live Birth".

Both of my children were born in Kentucky. Each of them has a birth record called a "Certificate of Live Birth".

The "COLB is not valid proof of citizenship for passports" is entirely false, which anyone who reads English as a primary language can see for himself if he actually goes to the Department of State's website. It does NOT say a COLB is not valid. What it says is that the document must have a raised or colored seal and be signed. It says that SOME "short forms" or "abstracts" MAY not be valid. It does not say they ARE not valid.

I enlisted in the Army in 1983 with a COLB. I was Commissioned as a Regular Army Officer in 1987 with a COLB. I held a Top Secret security clearance and I served for a total of 23 years.

My son enlisted in the Army with a COLB.

Both of my children got passports and traveled abroad with their COLBs.

Since 1946, the official document States are required to use to report vital statistics to the Federal Government is the "US Standard Certificate of Live Birth".

Where is it?

YOU HAVE IT!

There is nothing more to show.

Of course, if you want to go with an idiotic claim started by an avowed White Supremist that was picked up by Corsi and fed directly to the brains of those who hear what they want to hear because they are unhappy that they lost an election, you are free to do so.

But before you do, let me point you toward the recently "revealed" Kenyan "birth certificate." Was Mobasa in Zanzibar or Kenya in 1961. I can't seem to remember...
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by stevensonjohn August 2, 2009 12:11 PM EDT
Speaking of wacky conspiracy theories, Rev. Jeremiah Wright believes that the goverment created the AIDS virus as a "means of genocide against people of color."
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by Dashark1 August 1, 2009 5:03 PM EDT
Obama's Birth Certificate shows the folowing anomalies:
a.- It has no State of Hawaii seal
b.- Show no signature of filing person
c.- Shows no crease. All Hawaii BC's are mailed so they all show a crease obama's doesn't
e.-Obama's BC shows no name of the Dr who delivered Barack
f.-Obama's bc shows no name of the Hospital where Obama was born.
g.- Obama's BC was filed the same day of his birth. Yeah right like the African Obama knew where to go and file it!
In My opinion, Obama's BC is 100% fake.
Obama must show his BC and all his ID documents for Public Inspection immediately or step down.
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by Steviey99 August 1, 2009 12:23 PM EDT
Oh my.........Reading this article and some of the comments makes me believe that America has too many lunatics that don't have the proper psychological care.

Listen up 'Birthers', there is no rational, informed and intelligent person that is going to agree with you. People with the above credentials will have various reactions to your nutter claims, but they will mostly be met with absolute amazement that people could be so ignorant and insane, while still functioning in society.

You're freaking insane.
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by VNON July 31, 2009 8:24 PM EDT
This birth certificate issue has always been rather dull for me.
I have personal experience, living in Hawaii, that tells me some
of the populace here - especially those in power - have the ability,
resources, and access to effect whatever they want, to
facilitate the reality they want to perpetrate. Seems everyone has
a knew him or knew the mother, or knew the grand parents when story.

When it comes to President Obama's birth, I wonder where were, and
where are the doctor, nurses, the other women in the maternity ward,
the baby sitters, the neighbors who pushed the mother and grand parents
out of the way to see the baby. Ooh! ooh! ooh!... and the pictures.
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by VNON July 31, 2009 8:20 PM EDT
This birth certificate issue has always been rather dull for me.
I have personal experience living in Hawaii, that tells me some
of the populace here, especially those in power have the ability,
resources, and access to effect whatever they want to
facilitate the reality they want to perpetrate. Seems everyone has
a new him or new the mother, or the grand parents when story.

When it comes to President Obama's birth, I wonder where were, and
where are the doctor, nurses, the other women in the maternity ward,
the baby sitters, the neighbors who pushed the mother and grand parents out of the way to see the baby. Ooh! ooh! ooh!... and the pictures.
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by Nomadicview July 29, 2009 8:21 AM EDT
Here is all the proof Birthers need. This is conclusive proof that Obama would like to hide. Talk about a phony.
http://nomadicjoe.blogspot.com/2009/07/obama-baby.html
Why aren't the big media corporations reporting this? The truth is out there.
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by Nomadicview July 28, 2009 1:30 PM EDT
Here is the evidence that Obama has tried to hide and Birthers have demanded. Obama's baby pics- aged 4. The truth is out there!
http://nomadicjoe.blogspot.com/2009/07/obama-baby.html
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by Nomadicview July 28, 2009 6:27 AM EDT
Finally the smoking gun. Here is the evidence that Birthers have been demanding. The truth. Obama's baby photos-aged 4 months. Pass it on.
http://nomadicjoe.blogspot.com/2009/07/obama-baby.html
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by mariannpepit July 27, 2009 3:48 PM EDT
I understand that Obama's mother missed the flight from Kenya to Hawaii and he was born in Kenya but after he was born she took him to Hawaii right away and he was registered there with the same information as the birth certificate that was on the Keyan birth birth certificate. His mother is a US citizen but that does not make him one if he was born in Kenya. His birth records in Kenya are sealed and he was brought up in Kenya until a certain age when his father abandoned him and his mother divorced his father who was married four times and his mother three times. I don't believe the copy of the birth certificate shown is authentic.
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by veritas_1212 July 26, 2009 3:19 PM EDT
From the Honolulu Star-Bulletin newspaper:

BORN IDENTITY

Birth certificate styles adjust to fit times and regulations

By June Watanabe

POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Jun 06, 2009
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Question: What is the state's policy for issuing a "Certification of Live Birth" versus a "Certificate of Live Birth"? My first, second and fourth children received certificates, but my third and fifth children received certifications. Why the difference? The certificate contains more information, such as the name of hospital, certifier's name and title; attendant's name and title, etc. The certification has only the child's name, date and time of birth, sex, city/island/county of birth, mother's maiden name, mother's race, father's name and father's race. Why doesn't the state just issue certificates? When did it stop issuing certificates? Is it possible to obtain certificates for my third and fifth children?

Answer: No, you can't obtain a "certificate of live birth" anymore.

The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.

The department only issues "certifications" of live births, and that is the "official birth certificate" issued by the state of Hawaii, she said.

And, it's only available in electronic form.

Okubo explained that the Health Department went paperless in 2001.

"At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting," she said.

Information about births is transferred electronically from hospitals to the department.

"The electronic record of the birth is what (the Health Department) now keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help window for most requests," Okubo said.

Asked for more information about the short-form versus long-form birth documents, Okubo said the Health Department "does not have a short-form or long-form certificate."

"The birth certificate form has been modified over the years and decades to conform to national standards and models," she said.

Okubo also emphasized the certification form "contains all the information needed by all federal government agencies for transactions requiring a birth certificate."

She added that the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state's current certification of live birth "as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements."

The issue of what constitutes an official Hawaii birth certificate received national attention during last year's presidential campaign. Those who doubted Barack Obama's American citizenship called the copy of the Hawaii birth document posted on his campaign Web site a fake.

Asked about that document, Okubo said, "This is the same certified copy everyone receives when they request a birth certificate."
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by Lawyers-Guns-n-Money July 26, 2009 2:57 PM EDT
by mnmaid July 23, 2009 4:25 PM EDT
He has duel citizenship.

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Some people are born with a silver spoon in their mouth. Apparently, by your reasoning, Obama was born with an épée in his hand.

And if he's a dual duel citizen, he was born with a sabre in the other.
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by JOHNLUTREL July 26, 2009 12:30 PM EDT
Certification of Live Birth (as linked in the article) is not equal to Birth Certificate. My Birth Certificate shows the name of the attending doctor and the hospital that I was born in. Certification of Live Birth just says that you were born and does not necessarily show the name of the attending physician or hospital. Certification of Live Birth is often used when babies are born at home with attending midwifes. A Certification of Live Birth is a legal document that says you exist, not where you were born. How did Barry get a passport to illegally travel to Pakistan? I think that at that time one needed a Birth Certificate to get a US Passport.
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by Lawyers-Guns-n-Money July 26, 2009 2:14 PM EDT
My Birth Certificate shows the name of the attending doctor and the hospital that I was born in.
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Good for you...and your birth certificate.
by reedlandj November 21, 2009 10:40 PM EST
By JD Reed
John, John ... so late to ge the news! The notion that a travel ban of US citizens to Pakistan existed in summer '81 has been thoroughly debunked for more than half a year before your post. Fact: An August 1981 U.S. Department of State travel advisory tells U.S. citizens how to LEGALLY travel to Pakistan. No birther has ever shown a record of a travel ban that summer, because of course it doesn't exist.
by Typewriter1961 July 26, 2009 11:52 AM EDT
The bc is a fake look at the background pattern and then look at the names, some of the lines are gone where the names are.Things don't line up. This is some copy made by computer with changes. The real 1961 version should be handwritten or typewritten if it is real or if there is one.A few more things to mention would be BO's gam gam saying he was born in Kenya and the uncle also(?). I think they might recall better then BO on this one. What about his passports to indo Are those UK or US because a Kenyan Passport would be a UK passport Where are those? I think this is all misdirection though Maybe BOI isn't really his father and BOII is embarassed that Frank Marshall Davis is his real father and that was hidden from BOII from birth. Maybe his real father thought that in the 60's it would be better for a mulato to be raised with the belief the father was african and not african american.What's the harm with transparency show the passports and the real certificates even if no father was on them and silence the masses or don't and they'll keep looking
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by Lawyers-Guns-n-Money July 26, 2009 11:26 AM EDT
by old1oncnet July 25, 2009 4:27 PM EDT
2 or 3%, I truly think you are uninformed about the number in our ranks, and it is growing daily.
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Oh, your growing rank alright.
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by xinunus July 24, 2009 11:29 PM EDT
OBAMA EATS ENDANGERED BELUGA STURGEON WITH PUTIN

Quote:
Russian agencies, quoting the government's press service, said Putin treated Obama to black caviar with sour cream, smoked beluga with pancakes and tea made in the traditional Russian samovar, a big coal-fired kettle.

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE56657Q20090707

http://www.reuters.com/article/reutersComService_2_MOLT/idUSTRE5661Q520090707

WIKIPEDIA:
IUCN classifies the beluga as Endangered. It is a protected species listed in appendix III of the Bern Convention and its trade is restricted under CITES appendix II. The Mediterranean population is strongly protected under appendix II of the Bern Convention, prohibiting any intentional killing of these fish.

The United States Fish and Wildlife Service has banned imports of Beluga Caviar and other beluga products from the Caspian Sea since October 6, 2005.
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by veritas_1212 July 26, 2009 3:03 PM EDT
And your point is ?

Perhaps Obama should have declined the caviar and started WWIII against his host ?
by xinunus July 24, 2009 11:17 PM EDT
NOBODY KNOWS WHAT HOSPITAL OR DOCTOR GAVE BIRTH TO OBAMA SO HOW IN THE HELL CAN YOU SAY WITH 100% CERTAINTY THAT HE IS A CITIZEN?

YOU PEOPLE ARE MORONS.
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by Lawyers-Guns-n-Money July 26, 2009 11:51 AM EDT
Talk about morons. Can you name for us the hospitals and doctors for all 42 previous holders of the office of POTUS? For extra credit, name the manger where JC was born.
by July 24, 2009 8:37 PM EDT
Enough of the lunatics already!

In Hawaii....you can't obtain a "certificate of live birth" anymore.

The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.

The department only issues "certifications" of live births, and that is the "official birth certificate" issued by the state of Hawaii, she said.

Asked for more information about the short-form versus long-form birth documents, Okubo said the Health Department "does not have a short-form or long-form certificate."

She added that the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state's current certification of live birth "as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements."

starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html
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by nolaevacuee July 24, 2009 7:26 PM EDT
state run media reports those who are not high stepping to Obama's marxist agenda(destroy the USA,create a communist state under his tyranny) are considered to be "always" uneducated/extremists/wrong......hmmm... doesn't it seem the Obama ilk are intolerant of anyone who disagrees with them?

maintaining open hearts to listen,consider the possibility of truth opposing views would certainly bring about more tolerance and CIVIL public discourse from liberals/marxists towards their opposition in this country,wouldn't it?

Many lib posts here repeat the SAME argument that is simply inaccurate/false. USA law is very clear for the year of Obama's birth,albeit that law has changed over the years. Therefore, if you research this truth/fact is that Obama's mother does not appear to satisfy the legal requirements that would qualify her son, Obama, to be a 'natural born' citizen. It could have been quite intentional for the mother/her parents, who actually raised Obama,to publish an 'ad' in the Hawaii newspaper about his birth(giving the impression/inference/implication) that Obama was actually born in Hawaii,on USA sovereign soil. Likewise, if any of your critics of the birthers actually researched the truth/facts of their arguments, the only document Obama will 'allow' public view/"proof" of his fulfillment of this natural born law,is a so called 'short form document',which is merely something that the grandparents could fill out to "notify" Hawaii a live bith had occurred- they could lie on the document, e.g.the birth was in their home,in the backyard,a building, elevator, car or hospital. It is merely a "form" telling the state what they want to the state to know. That is not necessarily PROOF of the truth or the facts in reality.

Isn't it interesting that the only other 'living' soles in Obama's immediate family who knew the truth of these points, during the presidential campaign, was his maternal grandmother and paternal grandmother. Obama visited his maternal grandmother on her "alleged" deathbed/she died during his campaign. His paternal grandmother, who is alive in Kenya,has stated in interviews that Obama was born in Kenya,but the state run media WILL NOT report this fact, nor does Obama address this fact or allow any questions on it.

If the tables were turned, and it was George Bush, you would likely consider it highly suspicious/nefarious that he has spent nearly $ 1 million on lawyers in court to fight ANY attempts to have his long form birth certificate, any of his school records, applications, etc. publicly published...hmmm? what is he hiding but something that would harm his legal qualifications for being a natural born citizen, thus qualified to become pres.of the usa? what is at stake? being a usurperer in the oval office, and having everything he has signed deemed illegal and voided.

as for McCain, Obama was VEHEMENT in pressing for McCain's birth certificate,since his staff was sure McCain was not legally qualified either,but the truth/facts are that congress passed a law that allowed citizens born on us bases overseas to be considered natural born, and that law was made retroactive to a certain year. This is why McCain was in fact truthfully/legally a natural born citizen. Btw, that law was passed for all such cases and not for only McCain.

Finally, McCain's lawyers did not pursue this issue during the campaign for reasons I believe are not disclosed. For example, there were many battles/issues for McCain to attack Obama. Attacking Obama's "word" on the truth of his 'short form birth notification' document ( albeit a document of lies) would have hurt McCain, especially from you liberals and on the fence voters, who would have reviled McCain, typically as you do, as a "racist", a "Bigot", etc. who was just attacking Obama 'personally' instead of sticking to the issues because McCain allegedly had nothing else to fight with. I think McCain was too soft and moderate in this fight, he took the high road on this particular issue, focusing instead on other issues. He still should have pressed on this issue, especially since Obama made it a REALLY big issue , even in the debates, attacking McCain about his birthplace and fulfillment of that criteria.

If any liberals aren't willing to research the facts for yourself, or to consider the possibility of their truth, then isn't it you who are harming yourself,the country &the rest of us by not honoring the requisite constitutional demands our country has to perform the fullest due diligence in vetting its political candidates, especially for this important job? Would you just have taken George Bush's word for it, or Dick Cheney's or Rumsfeld, etc.,? think about it.
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by July 24, 2009 8:42 PM EDT
It's nuts like you that aren't willing to do the research yourself. It is you and your ilk that is harming the country. Enough! www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html
by veritas_1212 July 26, 2009 3:00 PM EDT
We are no longer "vetting a political candidate", nolaevacuee. That time is long passed. Obama is the President of the United States, whether you like it or not. He should have the support of all Americans.
by scubajack July 24, 2009 6:50 PM EDT
i like messing with the bonobobama maniacs. just like the mooorons who hassled george bush about the national guard. i hope we can keep this up until bonobobama admits he can't prove he was born in amerika, or shows the birth cert (not the 'cert of live birth'. the REAL birth cert.).

keep stirring the pot, keep making them deny he was born in kenya. a lie told often enough becomes the truth. isn't that the democrat way? i like that it riles up the lefties!!!

bonobobama is the first african POTUS. and he is just as corrupt as the leaders in his homeland of kenya. the nut didn't fall far from the tree...
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