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July 10, 2009 10:04 AM

Obama Sets High Bar for World Intervention

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The United States and other nations will inevitably confront world crises where they have a "moral imperative" to intervene, President Obama said today -- but only in "exceptional" circumstances.

"There has to be a strong international outrage at what's taking place," Mr. Obama said in a press conference in L'Aquila, Italy, where the G8 summit has wrapped up. He called striking a balance between meeting that moral obligation and respecting national sovereignty "one of the most difficult questions in international affairs."

"I don't think there is a clean formula," he said. "In general, it is important for the sovereignty of nations to be respected."

Mr. Obama added that conflicts should be resolved through diplomacy and setting up international norms that countries want to meet.

The question of respecting national sovereignty versus protecting international human rights lingered at the end of the G8 summit as new protests against the outcome of the Iranian presidential election cropped up yesterday in Tehran.

The Group of Eight countries released a statement on Wednesday which says the participating nations "deplore" the post-election violence, and consider interference with media, unjustified detentions of journalists and recent arrests of foreign nationals in Iran "unacceptable."

Mr. Obama defended the toothless statement, saying, "This notion that we were trying to get sanctions (at the G8 summit), or that this was a forum in which we could get sanctions was not accurate."

"I think the real story here was consensus in that statement, including (from) Russia, which doesn’t make statements like that lightly," he said.

There are always going to be objections to international interventions, Mr. Obama said, but "there are going to be exceptional circumstances in which the need for international intervention becomes a moral imperative."

He said the most obvious example was the genocide that occurred in Rwanda.

Mr. Obama told of an anecdote that British Prime Minister Gordon Brown shared during the summit meetings, about a trip he made to a museum in Rwanda marking the genocide. There was a picture of a 12-year-old boy in the museum and a biography of the child next to the picture.

"The last line on this exhibit said that right before he and his mother were killed, he turned to his mother and said, 'Don't worry, the United Nations is going to come save us,'" related Mr. Obama.

"That voice has to be heard in international relations," he said.

Mr. Obama said his administration aims to address conflicts on the international stage on a case-by-case basis.

"Rather than focus on hypotheticals, what my administration wants to do is build up international norms, put pressure on governments," he said, "not hypothesize on particular circumstances."

Along with providing a unified statement against the violence in Iran, Mr. Obama said it was noteworthy that the G8 nations agreed to re-evaluate Iran's posture towards negotiating the cessation of its nuclear weapons policy at the G20 meeting in September.

"The international community has said, 'Here's a door you can walk through,'" he said. "That's been our premise -- that we provide that door, but we also say we're not going to wait indefinitely and wait for the development of a nuclear weapon, the breach of international treaties and wake up one day and find ourselves in a much worse situation."

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by darthcheney345 July 10, 2009 7:33 PM EDT
Obama is the worst president in 100 years

He still supports free trade globalization

STOP FREE TRADE NOW

The job you save could be your own.
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by eiddam July 10, 2009 6:49 PM EDT
Obama may have bowed to the Saudi, but Bush hugged him. As for the Middle East, I belive 9/11 was blamed on Afganistan for an excuse to invade, lies against Iraq to invade, the excuse to kill the terrorist in pakistan to invade,and threats for years by Israel and the Bush Regime against Iran, so they would come up with nukes to defend thmselves, but it also gave reason for Israel, and the US to attack, and also, the same threats and pressure against Korea. For a country for peace, Bush showed otherwise, as did the suppose, Holy Jews. Obama made a mistake to hang on to Bush's old war hungry generals, who keeps the wars going. It's amazing how quickly the republicans forget the 8 years of Bush/Chaney/Rice, who created the mess in the first place.
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by darthcheney345 July 10, 2009 7:35 PM EDT
It's amazing how quickly the republicans forget the 8 years of Bush/Chaney/Rice, who created the mess in the first place.
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It's amazing how quickly your forget that BUSH IS NOT THE PRESIDENT ANYMORE, AND NOW IT'S OBAMA'S JOB TO CORRECT WHATEVER YOU THINK IS WRONG.

News flash - it is now JULY. I think Obama has had time to make a few changes by now.

It is Obama's watch. Obama is to blame.
by stuart2020 July 10, 2009 5:27 PM EDT
I like Obamas foreign agenda far better than his domestic agenda and I have a sneaking suspicion that is how history will treat him.

Anyway, I like what he is doing here. He is extremely clever. What he is saying to these other nations in the world is that America will no longer go it alone. We are not the policemen of the world.

You are sovereign nations and have your own moral codes. When your moral codes are so egregarious that you, in your sovereign status, decide to act upon them, THEN we will be there to assist you. Otherwise, don't expect America to provide all the resources and suffer all the loss of life if you won't sacrifice your own.

By honoring their soveriegn status, Obama is basically telling them to act like they are sovereign nations rather than act like they are states of this country. I agree all the way with Obama on this.

And he clarifies it even further by addressing ALL nations this way. "There has to be a strong international outrage at what's taking place," Mr. Obama said in a press conference in L'Aquila, Italy,...

This perception is valid and I am glad to see a President finally addressing it. How ironic that Obama was considered to immature and inexperienced at foreign policy to be President yet just 6 months into his tenure, he is showing all the critics just how wrong they were....and are.

Now if you can only get this economic mess straightened out, Mr. Obama, I would be a total fan.
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by gunownerdan July 10, 2009 4:57 PM EDT
Bans on civilian gun ownership is what makes genocide and mass murder possible.
Mass murderers love defenseless victims and they simply can't have genocide without large numbers of helpless people who can't protect themselves!
Self Defense....
A-HUMAN-RIGHT.com
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by stuart2020 July 10, 2009 5:31 PM EDT
What does this comment have to do with this thread?????
by South-of-Heaven July 10, 2009 3:57 PM EDT
pmsnbc2,

bye bye.....
come back as someone else...
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by South-of-Heaven July 10, 2009 3:30 PM EDT
God Bless Mr Obama.
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by npkppprc July 10, 2009 2:29 PM EDT
Obama "If you attack us, I will talk you to death"
People seem to stick to their party no matter who the politician is, (very shallow) I asked a democratic relative the other day how many time has he voted Republican, he said never and he is 85 years old. This goes to show Democraps vote for a party rather than the person. Democraps seem to be the nasty and will attack you personally your relatives, and even your children to get their way. No I'm not a repubcan't, Basically the system and politicians are liars, cheats, and cannot be trusted to make a sound decisions for any American citizen, but the democraps will shove it where the sun don't shine anyway and tell you it's what is best for you.
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by caddillackid1 July 10, 2009 1:58 PM EDT
I agree totally with connunism's comment...REPUBLICANS SUCK...if i could i would take my hat off to you and shake your hand for your comment. You forgot number 20 and 21.
20.Narcissistic (which is basically covered by 1-13)
21.Cowardess. (covered by 16-18) so acually i guess you did good! lol.
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by darthcheney345 July 10, 2009 7:39 PM EDT
Hey caddykid, I think I just figured out why you lost 3 jobs in 1 year...LOL!
by fleabag75 July 10, 2009 1:52 PM EDT
Obama caused the Great Depression.
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by caddillackid1 July 10, 2009 2:19 PM EDT
I was laid off from not 1, not 2 but 3 jobs in 1 year. The final layoff was Dec 9th, 2008 and Obama had yet to step foot in the oval office...it's was Bush at the helm! By the way...like your screen name...it's fitting! My dog is not good with world and political topics either...i wonder if he'll ever learn to type?
by curiously1 July 10, 2009 1:09 PM EDT
With the technology these days, do we really have to fight wars with guns and knives anymore? Why can't we outsmart the enemy technologically?
I know that Obama hates wars but what really disappoints me is that he doesn't even want to show resistance!...Not even a damn condemnation of the Iranian government (thugs)! That's really pathetic how the U.S might has just disappeared !...Unreal !
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by caddillackid1 July 10, 2009 2:08 PM EDT
Don't you think the world hates us enough? Obama has brought back some of the goodwill...as the most powerfull country on earth, some might say..who needs it? I don't think Obama is weak...I think he is smart.
1. he is not going around feeding the world more of the same political blah blah that has caused the world in part to hate us in the first place.
2nd. he understands like all great leaders do....that you power does not consist of just a powerful military with words to stand behind it...rather great leaders and great military force gaines more power thorugh its prudent use.

You can only bomb and blast people to smitherines for so long..you reach a point when it does not scare anybody anymore! What has Americas war tactic accomplished? Nothing!! Nothing worth the lifes of 3000 americans....6000 if you want to count 9/11. 300,000 if you wanna count all the Iraqis and some innocent lives lost due to americans "WARS".
by connunism July 10, 2009 1:01 PM EDT
After the Republicons invaded Iraq based upon lies, American's have focused on several other realities of what it means to be a US conservative. Republicons are:
1. narrow minded
2. book banners
3. truth censoring
4. mean spirited
5. self-centered
6. ungenerous
7. envious
8. intolerant
9. afraid
10. chicken hearted
11. bullies
12. trivially moral
13. falsely patriotic
14. family cheapening
15. flag cheapening
16. God cheapening
17. shallow
18. small
19. sanctimonious
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by Mortarman29 July 10, 2009 1:26 PM EDT
Not one fact in this whole post. A new record!
by connunism July 10, 2009 2:15 PM EDT
And I forget to add that Republicons, all Republicons are in denial about who they really are!
by Mac July 10, 2009 12:46 PM EDT
another empty statement by and empty man. More concerned with image than outcome. Ready to obfuscate (lie) whenever it helps image. No wonder his aproval ratings are falling so fast. America is waking up. I hope it happens in time to save us from more of his juvenile antics.

Question: "Where is Hillary?" Ill bet she has lost her stomache for this guys foolishness.
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by Mortarman29 July 10, 2009 12:40 PM EDT
Commenting on a woman's cold-blooded murder in the streets of Tehran, like the murder of babies, is evidently above Obama's "pay grade." (peace be upon him)

If it were true that a U.S. president should stay neutral between freedom-loving Iranian students and their oppressors, then why is Obama speaking in support of the protesters now? Are liberals no longer worried about the parade of horribles they claimed would ensue if the U.S. president condemned the mullahs?

Obama's tough talk this week proves that his gentle words last week about Ahmadinejad and Iran's "supreme leader" (peace be upon him) constituted, at best, spinelessness and, at worst, an endorsement of the fraud.

Moreover, if the better part of valor is for America to stand neutral between freedom and Islamic oppression, why are liberals trying to credit Obama's ridiculous Cairo speech for emboldening the Iranian protesters?

The only reason that bald contradiction doesn't smack you in the face is that it is utterly preposterous that Obama's Cairo speech accomplished anything -- anything worthwhile, that is. Not even the people who say that believe it.

The only reaction to Obama's Cairo speech in the Middle East is that the mullahs probably sighed in relief upon discovering that the U.S. president is a coward and an imbecile.
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by Mortarman29 July 10, 2009 12:23 PM EDT
More than a week ago, French president Nicolas Sarkozy said: "The ruling power claims to have won the elections ... if that were true, we must ask why they find it necessary to imprison their opponents and repress them with such violence."

But liberals rushed to assure us that Obama's weak-kneed response to the Iranian uprising and the consequent brutal crackdown was a brilliant foreign policy move. (They also proclaimed his admission that he still smokes "lion-hearted" and "statesmanlike.")

As our own Supreme Leader B. Hussein Obama (peace be upon him) explained, "It's not productive given the history of U.S.-Iranian relations to be seen as meddling."

You see, if the president of the United States condemned election fraud in Iran, much less put in a kind word for the presidential candidate who is not crazy, it would somehow crush the spirit of the protesters when they discovered, to their horror, that the Great Satan was on their side.

Liberals hate America, so they assume everyone else does, too.

So when a beautiful Iranian woman, Neda Agha Soltan, was shot dead in the streets of Iran during a protest on Saturday and a video of her death ricocheted around the World Wide Web, Obama valiantly responded by ... going out for an ice cream cone. (Masterful!)
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by Mortarman29 July 10, 2009 12:10 PM EDT
On Iran, President Obama is worse than Hamlet. He's Colin Powell, waiting to see who wins before picking a side.

Last week, massive protests roiled Iran in response to an apparently fraudulent presidential election, in which nutcase Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was declared the winner within two hours of the polls closing. (ACORN must be involved.)

Obama responded by boldly declaring that the difference between the loon Ahmadinejad and his reformist challenger, Mir Hossein Mousavi, "may not be as great as advertised."

Maybe the thousands of dissenters risking their lives protesting on the streets of Tehran are doing so because they liked Mousavi's answer to the "boxers or briefs" question better than Ahmadinejad's.

Then, in a manly rebuke to the cheating mullahs, Obama said: "You've seen in Iran some initial reaction from the supreme leader" -- peace be upon him -- "that indicates he understands the Iranian people have deep concerns about the election."

Did FDR give speeches referring to Adolf Hilter as "Herr Fuhrer"? What's with Obama?

Even the French condemned the Iranian government's "brutal" reaction to the protesters -- and the French have tanks with one speed in forward and five speeds in reverse.

You might be a scaredy-cat if ... the president of France is talking tougher than you are.
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by ajjaxtheleast July 10, 2009 11:58 AM EDT
WHAT!??,,this CANT be!!!

You mean no more sitting around after an illegal
war crime invasion that directly and indirectly kills
a couple hundred thousand human beings, yes, Georgie,
they are,,WERE human beings, and saying "Well, we're
here now so lets just make the best of it."??

George set the bar low so that with less effort he could
continuously suck the suds from a straw,,,And now Obama
recognizes this as The Bush Folly in that it more
thoroughly weakens brain function resulting in faulty
visions such as The Man Upstairs ordering you to
commense the destruction of another country,,,

With a HIGH bar Obama now has NO excuse for the
war crimes HE is committing in Afghanistan.

I imagine Obama will presently be talking to his
speech writer.
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by Mortarman29 July 10, 2009 12:00 PM EDT
Is there anything resembling a fact in this post?
by mahalapril July 10, 2009 11:53 AM EDT
The problem now with the militarily weak Obama is not intervening or initiating a war in any part of the world. It will be defending our homeland from islamic fanatic terrorist attacks which Bush prevented for 8 years after 9/11.
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by fedup12 July 10, 2009 11:40 AM EDT
Hmmmm... Sounds good to me Im sick and tired of being the worlds police. Let some other countries pick up the tab once in awhile.
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by lorinkundert July 10, 2009 11:33 AM EDT
Spoken like a true Marxist dictator, every nation is sovereign, what happens within it's borders is none of your business.
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by bobbyduck1 July 10, 2009 10:53 AM EDT
Thank God for a President that has more sense than to "shoot from the hip" and go off and start yet another war. It may come to that but if so, it should be like in Afghanistan where a truly multinational force agreed together to stop a common menace and went in with UN sanction.

Instead of the Bush/Cheney/Halliburton madness that took us into Iraq, and for what? Ego, greed and idiocy, and for nothing else. We invade Iraq but largely ignored Rwanda and Darfur.....boy what great world leaders we were while the GOP had the reins.... NEVER AGAIN!

YES WE CAN!
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by Mortarman29 July 10, 2009 11:54 AM EDT
Multinational force in Afghanistan? Are you kidding me? Americans are always the lead, the biggest force bringing the most assets and money. Having the "multinational forces" only helps us politically.

The American military always does the heavy lifting.
by johntarkenso July 10, 2009 4:18 PM EDT
We actually did have allies at the beginning of the Aghanistan war, until we decided to open a profit center in Iraq. Pretty hard for allied countries to hang with you when you display such dubious motivation.
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