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June 11, 2009 6:13 PM

Hot Topic: How Much Should The U.S. Regulate Tobacco?

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The Senate on Thursday passed long-in-the-works legislation that will give the Food And Drug Administration power to regulate the sale, manufacture and marketing of tobacco products.

The bill, which the president plans to sign into law, will mean that regulators can do the following: limit the nicotine and tar levels in cigarettes; ban certain sorts of flavored tobacco that appeal to young people; force more prominent warning labels; ban words like "light" or "mild" in cigarette packaging; and give states the power to dictate how and where cigarettes are sold.

The legislation has been heralded by anti-smoking advocates, who say it will reduce smoking-related deaths and health care costs. Matthew Myers, president of Campaign for Tobacco-free Kids, told the Associated Press it "represents the strongest action Congress has ever taken to reduce tobacco use."

Although there appears to be widespread support for the bill – 79 senators voted for it, and even Philip Morris backs it (though perhaps for less than altruistic reasons) – there are also those who object to the government taking a stronger regulatory role. Among them is Patrick Basham, an adjunct scholar at the Libertarian-leaning CATO Institute, who tells Hotsheet that aggressive regulation and high taxes on products like alcohol and tobacco (so called "sin taxes") puts "the government in the position of imposing values on people's purchases of legal products."

Indeed, there are those who complain that America is increasingly becoming a so-called "nanny state." Among them is David Harsanyi, a Denver Post columnist, who used the phrase as the title of his book. The subtitle offers a neat summary of the complaints of Harsanyi and his ideological brethren: "How Food Fascists, Teetotaling Do-Gooders, Priggish Moralists and Other Boneheaded Bureaucrats Are Turning America Into a Nation of Children."

Cato's Basham said that while he does not believe the federal government should regulate tobacco at all, he "accepts the reality" that many people look to the feds to do so. He nonetheless offers three arguments against the current legislation: He says it's too favorable to Philip Morris, argues that the FDA lacks the expertise to regulate tobacco effectively, and believes that the bill is focused on the wrong things.

"If we were honest and we stepped back, we would say this goal of reducing youth smoking is an admirable one, and we should do what we can to achieve it, but these easy answers – there just isn't evidence they work," he said. Basham argues that the real problems are socio-economic – and that establishing better schools and more stable families are the real path to reducing youth smoking.

It should be noted here that while Libertarian arguments against government regulation have their proponents, the United States regulates all sorts of products, largely with little opposition. The FDA, for example, regulates the food we eat – and it's fair to say most Americans don't want that to change.

And anti-smoking advocates have a powerful argument in favor of the bill: It appears to offer an opportunity to save some of the more than 400,000 lives that are lost to tobacco products each year. Americans may instinctively chafe at government intrusions into their lives, but they have long been willing to accept certain limitations in service of the greater good.

Sometimes those limitations are widely supported, such as laws against heroin, but sometimes they prompt fierce and ongoing debate -- as in the case of where to draw the line between the right to bear arms and the safety concerns that comes with firearms.

Tobacco is not the ideal product for anti-regulation advocates to build the case, in part because many smokers begin consuming the product when they are young enough that they lack the ability to adequately consider the risks. The vast majority of American parents don't want their children smoking, and even those who chafe at government involvement in the free market appear willing to accept efforts to keep them from doing so.

And while there appears to be little support for banning cigarettes outright, the imposition of increasing disincentives to use them – in the form of high taxes, prominent health warnings, and, now, this piece of legislation – have largely met with little resistance, even from smokers themselves.

Where do you stand on the issue? Do you feel this legislation is a step in the right direction, or is it a mistake? Should cigarettes be regulated into oblivion, or should the government essentially get out of the way? Let us know your thoughts in comments and in the poll below.

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by June 15, 2009 12:43 PM EDT
Nobody says Tobacco is not bad. Tobacco is legal, albeit a killer, but so is Fat. Why cant we decide what we want to put in our bodies?
Posted by novamba at 9:59 AM : Jun 12, 2009

Fine. Just don't put your smoke in my body.
--ge556
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by BigTobaccoStooge June 13, 2009 12:54 AM EDT
This is long overdue. Tobacco companies, free from regulation, have ramped up nicotine levels in cigarettes during the last decade so kids get hooked faster and smokers find it harder to quit. And now there should be less marketing to kids, not bad for a start. And no more fruit-flavored cigarillos, one of the industry's favorite ways to get kids puffing. 9 out of 10 smokers started as children or teenagers, so not exactly informed consent. Government intervention is clearly required.

This stuff about the "nanny state" along with all the other excuses are just a lot of cynical nonsense coming from the tobacco industry and its lackies. I think the tobacco industry is scared of where this could lead. If they are ever limited to a low enough nicotine content to fall below the addiction threshold for most people, they could soon find themselves out of business.

I also believe tobacco companies love the idea of e-cigarettes because they mimic smoking while helping to keep smokers addicted. Can't light up at work, at your favorite restaurant, bar, or shopping mall? No need to quit. Just have an e-cigarette, that should tide you over until you can smoke a real one. In this way, e-cigarettes would help to keep smoking a viable drug habit.
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by pensacola8-2009 June 12, 2009 3:46 PM EDT
For years non-smokers complained that smokers got the better end every time they lit up, because they were inhaling and enjoying everything through a filter, while non-smokers near them were not.

The Old Tar and Nicotine regulations don't seem to help smokers stay healthier. In fact, the fibers of the filter often break off and get sucked into a smoker's lung and replace the tar problem with chronic and disabling cystic growths encapsulating embedded remnants of filter.
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by nottellin1 June 12, 2009 3:29 PM EDT
When do we face the music for our actions?
Posted by novamba at 9:56 AM : Jun 12, 2009

NOW!!!! To everyone who voted for Obama, is this really the change you were hoping for, a change to Socialism?
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by anti-global2 June 12, 2009 1:58 PM EDT
People need to think positive. There are still going to be plenty of smokes around, they will just be smuggled in from Mexico and Canada (at least mexico will finally be good for something) and there will be plenty of opportunity to get rich selling them.
What is even better is the fed and the states will be losing all the tax revenue they have no right to to begin with.
I am in PA and make runs south all of the time. I refuse to pay a so called sin tax on smokes to pay for some poor kids health insurance. It is all about principal, if the kid needs insurance have his under educated or addicted parents get jobs at McDonalds or join the military. My kids are insured, thats all I care about.
There will be no more unfair taxes when this goes through, but believe me there will still be cigarrettes available and they will be cheaper. It is like pot, I know people who smoke and they never have any problems getting it.
I hope they do the same with booze, in the end it will make it cheaper and it will always be available.
This is America, true americans don't let the govt' dictate what we can and cannot do. We'll find a way around it as usual.
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by Thalia-9 June 12, 2009 1:55 PM EDT
If I were addicted to cigarettes, the chances of me being able to quit cold turkey is about as high as me staying away from donuts, cookies, and ring dings.
So it's a good thing that I don't smoke.
Posted by mainermike

LOL! I'm actually a little excited about it as a smoker who's trying to quit - if they didn't sell djarum red, which is a cherry clove, I'd be better off as I don't like the taste of anything else...but I don't like sweets or fast food, so I'm good in at least one area! LOL
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by ibsteve2u June 12, 2009 1:25 PM EDT
"But society as a whole benefits from driving..."

OK, then ban driving for any purposes other than work, medical care, and the purchase or delivery of items necessary for the sustenance of life.

That is the argument for banning cigarette smoking; the individual's desires are to be set aside to save society - the insurance corporations, really - a buck.

So ban driving for pleasure or when driving is merely an instrument to deliver an individual somewhere where they can satisfy a nonessential desire.

As an individual, you don't count.
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by ibsteve2u June 12, 2009 1:15 PM EDT
Ban driving.

Driving an automobile demonstrably increases the risk that you may be injured or killed.

Likewise, driving an automobile demonstrably increases the risk that you will kill or injure others.

Statistics providing proof abound, and likewise it eliminates the problems of drunken-driving and texting-while-driving and the elderly and incompetent driving, all in one fell swoop.

Ban driving.
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by starleo146 June 12, 2009 1:12 PM EDT
Do you remember when the Clinton administration was getting on these tobacco co.'s and almost got them for their unethical doings then Bush got elected and all was dropped and these tobacco co.'s started to add ingredients to make us more addicted and all the representation in court was done by Ken Star and it was a horrible mess. I do not think they are into this because they want to hurt a industry the government has not threatened to close it down this industry has gotten away with murder literally. How many have died from lung cancer. Why blame the government this co. will do anything and everything to keep making cigarettes even to add ingredients that can make you even more addictive if that is possible. This time the government is doing what they should. No one loved cigarettes more than me, but since I lost my husband due to smoking and Myself getting lung cancer I see the they were right I just didn't want to believe it . How dare you take my cigarettes away from me. They were right and I was wrong
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by debinok1 June 12, 2009 1:04 PM EDT
Nobody says Tobacco is not bad. Tobacco is legal, albeit a killer, but so is Fat. Why cant we decide what we want to put in our bodies?
Posted by novamba

AND kids are exposed to more fat and sugar filled foods than they are to tobacco, much more. Yet the government is going after tobacco, but not after these types of foods, YET. If everyone doesn't stand up for the rights of everyone, then there will be no one left to stand up for the rights of anyone.
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by mainermike June 12, 2009 1:04 PM EDT
AS I SEE IT, by Mike "Mainer Mike" Brown.

So because it's legal to eat fattening foods, it should therefore be legal to use cigarettes?

I have to disagree that statement.
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by novamba June 12, 2009 12:59 PM EDT
Nice how so many people say we can't regulate tobacco, because then everything will be regulated. So we can't regulate one of the worst killers in our culture, because somehow this will lead to other regulation? That's just dumb.

Nobody says Tobacco is not bad. Tobacco is legal, albeit a killer, but so is Fat. Why cant we decide what we want to put in our bodies?
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by debinok1 June 12, 2009 12:59 PM EDT
This is AS I SEE IT, by Mike "Mainer Mike" Brown.

If I were addicted to cigarettes, the chances of me being able to quit cold turkey is about as high as me staying away from donuts, cookies, and ring dings.

So it's a good thing that I don't smoke.
Posted by mainermike

Those are next, mark my words. When they can no longer use the tobacco scapegoat, those types of foods will come under fire, as will any other unhealthy or bad for you thing they can find. Better get ready for it.
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by novamba June 12, 2009 12:56 PM EDT
In the very near future, we will have the FDA regulate how much fat content can be ingested by an overweight person, or doled out by a restaurant and tax any excess. The resulting revenue will go to educate kids on the evils of fat (5%), and the rest to shore up medicare or who knows what other worthless government enterprise. We are allowing our freedom to choose to be legislated away by a government more interested in being our nanny. When do we face the music for our actions?
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by June 12, 2009 12:51 PM EDT
Nice how so many people say we can't regulate tobacco, because then everything will be regulated. So we can't regulate one of the worst killers in our culture, because somehow this will lead to other regulation? That's just dumb.
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by mainermike June 12, 2009 12:41 PM EDT
This is AS I SEE IT, by Mike "Mainer Mike" Brown.

If I were addicted to cigarettes, the chances of me being able to quit cold turkey is about as high as me staying away from donuts, cookies, and ring dings.

So it's a good thing that I don't smoke.
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by pw08-2009 June 12, 2009 12:20 PM EDT
nikosk11,

I agree with you. I quit cold turkey too and it was something I never thought I could do. But for those of you who have never smoked, you should just stay off this string.
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by pw08-2009 June 12, 2009 12:17 PM EDT
Congress is full of hypocrites because they effectively muscled their way into tobacco because it makes so much money. Does anyone remember all the money they stole from tobacco to supposedly educate our children about it's dangers? And what actually happened to that money? Special interests happened and it was squandered for anything they could spend it on and now because it still makes so much money, they want to own it all.
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by debinok1 June 12, 2009 12:07 PM EDT
Today: Tobacco

Next:
Salt
Sugar
Caffeine
Alcohol
Red Meat
White Flour
Medicinal Herbs

Never:
Air pollution
Smog
Tailpipe exhaust
Toxic Water
Toxic Food
Toxic Medicine

They will never go after the corporations that are really killing us. No matter how many studies show that the true culprit is Industrialization. Studies have been done in countries without industrialization, they have higher rates of smoking and lower rates of cancer. They will not go after their cash cows, they will continue to go after the people they govern, because we cannot line their pockets. Wake up people this is not being done for us it is being done to us. If the government was really interested in protecting us, they would clean up our air, our water, our food supply. Get off the band wagon and take back control of our country before it has total control of us.
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by mainermike June 12, 2009 11:52 AM EDT
AS I SEE IT --- Mike "Mainer Mike" Brown.

Most people can't quit cold turkey. So the best way is for the government to do everything it can to stop people from starting in the first place.
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