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May 12, 2009 11:36 AM

Where Will $2T In Health Care Savings Go?

(CBS)
The Obama administration proudly announced on Monday that the health care industry has made a significant step toward contributing to health care reform by offering to reduce the growth rate of health care costs over 10 years by 1.5 percent a year, or by a total of $2 trillion.

CBSNews.com's Hotsheet asked the administration how curbing the growth of costs--not stopping it--contributes to actual reform. The administration replied that cutting costs is a goal in and of itself. Two trillion dollars is nothing to scoff at, but it helps to keep things in perspective.

Given the rate at which health care costs have skyrocketed for Americans over the past decade, these savings could be a first step toward expanding coverage, some health care advocates say.

What also has yet to be explained is specifically how the federal government could take advantage of the savings from this plan. The government shoulders a growing portion of the nation's health care expenses, and its burden could grow tremendously under President Obama. One must also keep in mind there are no mechanisms to ensure the industry actually follows through on its offer.

The slowed growth in costs proposed by the industry could save a family of four as much as $2,500 a year, the Obama administration claims. Health care costs, however, would still increase, adding to a burden that has been quickly growing for decades. Since 1970, health care spending has risen about 2.4 percentage points faster than GDP, according to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, the federal agency that provides those services.

The CMS projects the U.S. will spend over $2.5 trillion on health care this year, or $8,160 per U.S. resident. By 2018, health care spending could reach $13,100 per resident, even without Mr. Obama's intended reforms.

Between 1999 and 2008, the cumulative growth in health insurance premiums was 119 percent, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. Comparatively, the same period saw cumulative inflation of 29 percent and cumulative wage growth of 34 percent. The organization cites a number of reasons for rising costs, including an aging population and the increase in chronic diseases like diabetes and the growing ability to treat the chronically ill. Also, as nations become wealthier, they choose to spend more on health care, and an expanding inventory of health care products, techniques, and services have enabled Americans to do just that.

At this rate, some advocates of health care reform say, industry efforts to reduce costs should be welcomed. America has finally reached an "affordability crisis," said Dave Lemmon, a spokesman for consumer health care advocacy group Families USA.

"Any effort that reins in costs this significantly really can't be underestimated," Lemmon said. "There's a lot of details that need to be worked out, but ultimately this is a good precursor for things to come. We're closer to health care reform than we've ever been."

The Obama administration has said its plan for reform will cost the federal government at least $634 billion over 10 years. The savings achievable through the industry's plan, however, would flow to society as a whole, not simply the federal government. Still, Mr. Obama said Monday that "getting health care costs under control is essential to reducing budget deficits, restoring fiscal discipline, and putting our economy on a path towards sustainable growth and shared prosperity."

For one thing, reduced health care costs could relieve some of the government's expected expenditures on Medicare and Medicaid. Also, as the administration aims to ensure universal coverage, the reduced health care costs for consumers could make it easier for the government to assist the millions of Americans who are not eligible for Medicaid but whose incomes prohibit them from being able to afford health care insurance dependent on their incomes, Lemmon explained. The government could, for instance, provide those people health care subsidies on a sliding scale.

"You're looking for any and every way to save possible dollars," Lemmon said.

As the government searches for "any and every way" to cut costs, the industry apparently decided to preempt any kind of regulatory fiat that would have mandated such changes, or perhaps or stringent ones. The Senate Finance Committee on Monday continued its discussion of ways to finance comprehensive reform.

"While (the industry plan is) certainly very encouraging, this is by no means is the end-all and be-all of health care reform," Lemmon said. "This just marks the beginning of the debate."
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by sjc_1 May 13, 2009 12:16 PM EDT
People can understand health care prices rising with inflation, that makes sense, but rising at 2-3 times the rate of inflation every year for decades? When was the last time you saw health insurance companies willing to compete on price? They usually claim preexisting conditions and refuse to cover or pay claims.
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by major-domo May 13, 2009 5:44 AM EDT
Guess what. There's a terrorist running amidst the halls of Congress. His name is Hugh bin Haad.

Here's the scam:
1. Medical costs are expected to rise 6% annually;
2. The medical-industrial complex is offering to shave 1.5 percentage points off the growth rate of health care spending;
3. That means medical cost will rise only 4.5% annually instead of 6%;
4. This doesn't mean next year we'll see another drop. It may rise to back to 6% due to unforeseen circumstances. Remember, the medical-industrial complex isn't in this business as a bleeding heart liberal organization - they're in it for the money.

In short, there is no savings to be "haad" here. Medical costs will still rise only at a slightly slow rate than what has been projected. You'll still pay more this year for medical expenses than you did last year (4.5% increase over last year), but costs will rise, not fall.

If you believe what the medical-industrial complex is saying then ... Hugh bin Haad
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by ayatoldya May 13, 2009 3:51 AM EDT
This no savings. this gesture merely shows how badly the health industry have been ripping off its customers. Does anyone really think this offer is going to hurt their books or bonuses?
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by rational_1 May 13, 2009 12:27 AM EDT
Where Will $2T In Health Care Savings Go?

Right into the pockets of Democrat elites who carry the water for Obama.
Posted by --One-American-- at 2:39 PM : May 12, 2009

I thought he was giving the savings to the UAW, along with the car companies themselves.
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by grabandgo May 12, 2009 10:11 PM EDT
we have a government running out of control.
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by joe1022joe May 12, 2009 9:43 PM EDT
There will be no savings. This is a ballet with the books. Mark it up to then mark it down.
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by hungry1968-15 May 12, 2009 8:52 PM EDT
Where Will $2T In Health Care Savings Go?





Same place it's always went: in the pockets of the CEO's of the big HMO's.
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by DefendLiberty May 12, 2009 5:25 PM EDT
A "Health insurance company" denies a man treatment for COPD to INCREASE THEIR PROFITS. He paid his premiums every month. When it came time to collect it was, "sorry fella, go off and die".

EVERY TIME the GOP cries that you will be DENIED COVERAGE by having the OPTION of a GOVERNMENT RUN insurance plan. THINK ABOUT THIS MAN.

There was another story just like this on our local news last night. A woman with BRAIN CANCER who was denied the ONLY treatment that would save her life because BLUE SHIELD RULES would not let her be treated *the number of tumors was "over the limit" that allowed treatment (a "limit" that her DOCTOR said was completely arbitrary and without medical basis). He DOCTOR said that all she got from BLUE SHIELD was the runaround, but no "OK". The insurance companies are all about MAKING A PROFIT. You can DIE as far as they are concerned (as long as your estate pays your back-bills).

There was another article yesterday about BLUE SHIELD revoking insurance RETROACTIVELY. You PAY your premiums, then when you get SICK, the INSURANCE COMPANY RETROACTIVELY REVOKES YOUR INSURANCE and makes you pay ALL of your OLD BILLS that they paid initially. "Buy insurance from the INSURANCE COMPANIES and DIE".

Private insurers DENY TREATMENT ALL OF THE TIME. Their interest is in PROFIT, NOT YOUR HEALTH. They want you to just suck it up and DIE if you get sick.

WE NEED A SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM IN THE USA, so you will NOT be DENIED COVERAGE BY GREEDY and UNSCRUPULOUS INSURANCE COMPANIES.
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by nofoolling May 12, 2009 5:13 PM EDT
So Obama has a meeting with health care industry representatives for ideas on how to trim health care costs!

Tommorrow he's sending the secret service to the mountains of Colorado to round up some wolves for his meeting on hen-house security.
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by Solarrays247 May 12, 2009 4:53 PM EDT
We don't need more police, Senator Baucus. That is not the health care plan we are calling for. We need more doctors, and nurses, not more insurance company administrators awarding themselves outrageous bonuses to deny suffering people in pain the health care they deserve.
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by Solarrays247 May 12, 2009 4:48 PM EDT
Senator Max Baucus, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, having already preemptively excluded
any participation of a credible spokesperson for single payer health care, laughingly joked "we need more police", when one qualified doctor and lawyer after another stood up to protest their exclusion from the debate.

THAT was the real Max Baucus, a contemptuous corporatist, who is as likely to voluntarily bring forward a real people's health program as Dick Cheney is likely to voluntarily testify under oath.

Just sayin'.......
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by Solarrays247 May 12, 2009 4:45 PM EDT
Yesterday the insurance industry and their allies promised President Obama that they'll cut health care cost inflation by 1.5% a year. Of course, costs are actually rising by more than 6% a year, and the industry only promises voluntary efforts to trim that -- no actual requirements.

Just sayin'.
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by johninpennsyl May 12, 2009 4:28 PM EDT
So,I guess this Obama character is not on the level-everybody deserves a chance-he had one-NEXT!
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by schotzy81 May 12, 2009 4:13 PM EDT
Obama's got nothing but pig lipstick when it comes to financial accountability. Only in government would a reduction in cost growth count as "savings".
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by noloyalisti May 12, 2009 3:46 PM EDT
You can't trust medical insurance companies, they are only for profit and must be cut out of the system. We need real change to their failed corporate system.
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by specialty8 May 12, 2009 3:35 PM EDT
Most of the money will go to the Obama super team to pay their taxes for a change.
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by ayatoldya May 12, 2009 3:27 PM EDT
These are not REAL savings. This act is akin to the tobacco industry's buy out of lawsuits to stay in business.

The health industry knows it's profit margins are second only to the oil industries. These health industry profits borderline criminal. The health industries practices skate the very edges of consumer laws that protect the public from corporate fleecings.

This "offer", which is nothing but a token compared to the profits it can make if it stays in business as is. Like the auto industry, the health industry needs to be torn down and rebuilt.
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by commentscbsnews May 12, 2009 3:13 PM EDT
How stupid do they think we are? I just bought a new dress that I don't need but I saved $20 because it was on sale!!! What???? Reducing price increases? I worked for a Medical device company for a few weeks - 85% markup. Do they care about reducing time to market, improving inventory turns, reducing costs? No and why should they? Our congressmen make sure they are rolling in the dough.
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by noloyalisti May 12, 2009 3:13 PM EDT
We need universal single payer health care for America. We need to get the insurance companies out of health care, they are just unfeeling big corporations who could care less about human beings. America is an absolute failure when it comes to health care.
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by hsudul May 12, 2009 2:52 PM EDT
I know where alot of this money go.... THose 400 lb
people in electric carts, cigarrette smokers, drug users
leaving the rest of us to get whats left. I live sensibly and
watch my weight ...... then there's those who have babies
without any consideration of that childs future YET there's
no laws probibiting huge families whom they cannot care for. And it appears only to get worse.
The current health system will continue to sink beucase
those who could ease the situation simply hide their
head in the sand. Remember even a sturdy life boat
can only save so many. Its not the sick I worry but rather
those whose to have their cared but fail to contriute.
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