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January 29, 2009 3:56 PM

Obama Calls Wall Street Bonuses "Shameful"

(AP)

Despite massive losses and huge taxpayer-funded bailouts, Wall Street handed out more than $18 billion in bonuses last year.

President Obama today called such bonuses "shameful," deeming them "the height of irresponsibility."

As the New York Times reported, last year's bonus payout marked the sixth largest such payout ever; while it was a smaller total than over the previous few years – the total paid out in bonuses fell 44 percent from 2007 – it roughly matched the bonus totals in 2004, when the Dow Jones Industrial Average was above 10,000.

It is reportedly "unclear" if taxpayer money helped fund the bonuses.

At a meeting with Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner this afternoon, Mr. Obama was harshly critical of the bonuses.

When "they are asking for taxpayers to help sustain them, and when taxpayers find themselves in the difficult position that if they don't provide help, that the entire system could come down on top of our heads, that is the height of responsibility," the president said. "It is shameful."

"And part of what we're going to need is for the folks on Wall Street, who are asking for help, to show some restraint, and show some disciple, and show some sense of responsibility," he continued. "The American people understand that we've got a big hole that we've got to dig ourselves out of, but they don't like the idea that people are digging a bigger hole even as they're bing asked to fill it up."

The president promised further conversations with Wall Street "to underscore that they have to start acting in a more responsible fashion if we are to together get this economy rolling again."

"There will be time for them to make profits, and there will be time for them to get bonuses," Mr. Obama said. "Now's not that time. And that's a message I intend to send directly to them."
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by wardoglrs February 1, 2009 9:22 AM EST
Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence?


As we leave July "our independence month"And move to our future of hope for the Constitution and Americana I tip my head to these great men of valor.
And to the Ron Paul Revolution and any one who stands on the ground of Peace Freedom & Liberty



Five signers were captured by the British as traitors,and tortured before they died.
Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned.Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army

another had two sons captured.Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or
hardships of the Revolutionary War.They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes,and their sacred honor.

What kind of men were they?

Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists.Eleven were merchants,
nine were farmers and large plantation owners men of means, well educated,
but they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured
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by wardoglrs February 1, 2009 9:21 AM EST
Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.
Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly.

He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.

Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer,
Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed,and Nelson died bankrupt. Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed.

The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.John Hart was driven from his wife''s bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished.

So, take a few minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and silently thank these patriots. It''s not much to ask for the price they paid.

Remember: freedom is never free!
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by wardoglrs February 1, 2009 9:18 AM EST
THE ANSWER IS GOLD & SILVER NOT FIAT PAPER

To have a working currency, you need to have adequate total exchange value to cover all the transactions in the economy at any given moment. Does all the gold and silver in the world currently have enough exchange value to replace all existing fiat currency? No. But here is why that doesn''t matter - THE EXCHANGE VALUE OF GOLD AND SILVER WILL RISE IN RESPONSE TO INCREASED DEMAND AS A MEDIUM OF EXCHANGE UNTIL IT REACHES THE NEEDED LEVEL.

Think of it another way. Imagine that you now need to pay your employee one ounce of gold a month for him to do his job. The increased demand for gold will drive up its exchange value (remember the law of supply and demand) because it will be in demand for use as money. So then you only have to pay your employee half an ounce of gold. The same amount of gold goes twice as far. It is as if the supply of money has increased to meet the demand without causing a loss of value the way inflating a fiat currency does.

The market will adjust the exchange value of gold and silver to meet demand.
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by wardoglrs February 1, 2009 9:16 AM EST
OBAMA SHOULD TALK.
This is the guy that voted for the FISA bill to spy on you Voted for the bail outs which hurts the dollar and the poor for food & shelter and the people rally round this man. I thought you all wanted CHANGE.
Government cant CHANGE any more than you can stop smoking or eating junk food it just doesn''t work when people tell other people how to be. Leave us along we want Freedom from collectivization this is brainless & unthinkable that people look to a higher power in Government. GET A LIFE
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by renojmc January 31, 2009 4:52 PM EST
So these bonuses are "shameful" to Obama, but it''s perfectly okay for his cabinet appointees to not pay taxes? What a hypocrite!
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by mom_o_truth January 31, 2009 3:43 PM EST
Thank to D-I-C-Ks Administration for creating and breading a culture of scrupulous greedy Mother-Fus who owe us $500B sucked at the gas pumps, $300B lost in 401ks, over $450B spent on a useless war and ruined our lives. WHO IS THE TERRORIST NOW ?
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by dumdnc January 31, 2009 1:42 PM EST
I forgot one shameful act of the chosen one in my post last evening. I forgot the 5.2 BILLION in the "stimulus" port filled package for the chosen ones very own uban army ACORN!! Guess you could say your guy is spending his first few weeks paying back debts.
Now, if we, as taxpayers, were to demand (a word the libs love)that acorn account for how they spend the money, would we be called racists??
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by drivelphobe January 31, 2009 1:23 PM EST
It seems this $18 billion certainly generates a great deal of income tax. Isn''t this the spending that the experts say we need? Aren''t they claiming the great multiplier effect will turn the country around?

These people took 44% hit on their bonuses this year. I''d say that''s a fairly substantial reduction in their incomes. Why all the complaining? These people probably worked harder this year than ever in light of all the uncertainty. Even Obam"uhm" sounds jealous. Sad to hear all the whining from the slackers who want a guaranteed hourly wage, breaks, vacations and family leave. Just pitiful!
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by catwolfe1 January 31, 2009 11:32 AM EST
Well, cool - but what about going after the OIL COMPANIES? Exxon-Mobil making 45 million PROFIT while I can''t afford gas to go get my prescriptions?
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by geneonlbk January 31, 2009 11:13 AM EST
It''s quite simple. If you want to continue to work for any financial institution receiving TARP funds, you either return your bonus or seek employment at some other non-TARP funded company.
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by sparks224 January 31, 2009 5:22 AM EST
The Welfare Kings of Wall Sreet.

Now we know all that "Free Market" talk is B.S.
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by shanev137 January 31, 2009 3:31 AM EST
hahahahahaha.

It''s going to be really fun watching all you psychos completely lose your friggin minds during the next 4 years.

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by jerr11 January 31, 2009 3:05 AM EST
Talk is cheap!

If it''s shameful, make them pay it all back, otherwise just shut up!

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by dumdnc January 31, 2009 12:43 AM EST
Fannie mae and freddie mac are shamless, barney frank is shameless, chris dodd is shameless.
Having members in YOUR adminstration that don''t pay taxes is shameless. Where''s the story on daschle and his non-payment of taxes??
Having queen nance fly around on a big A jet that she DEMANDED to the tune of over 5 million a year is shameless.
There is more than enough shame to go around.
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by labrat9999 January 30, 2009 10:48 PM EST
I just love this rebuttal in the news today from an employee of the bank. "What are you supposed to pay them?" Weisberg asked. "Or are you not supposed to pay them? And if you don''t pay them, how do you expect that employee to stay employed at that company?"

Gee I have a real difficult thing to tell ya partner...go ahead and quick!! You ain''t gettin'' another taxpayer dime in bonus. And guess what? Do you think all of us in other business sectors are looking for bonus and payraises..especially when are companies are not profitable??

Time to wake up...it''s a new day.
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by whitemale08 January 30, 2009 9:39 PM EST
President Obama has to be careful.

He has to remember that these so-called ''bankers'' are nothing but a pack of gangsters that will kill him.
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by ebarari January 30, 2009 7:57 PM EST
For President Obama and other officials in his administration just calling these actions of taking billions as "shameful" is not going to fix the problem. He must act and make it clear to all these CEO''s (chief Embezzlement Operators) and others to return tax payer''s money within two weeks otherwise they must go to jail. This is getting really ridiculous. It looks to me there is no accountability for the big crooks in wall streets, banks, insurance, etc. except for the little guys who may go to jail for a traffic violation or at most for stilling a small slice of pizza.
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by old300d January 30, 2009 5:59 PM EST
So who voted to give them the money ?

If I remember right the people were against giving them all that money but Obama and them voted to give it to them anyway,
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by angrycptlst January 30, 2009 5:06 PM EST
Mr. President, Shut the Hell Up!

Less than two weeks into the current administration I, for one, would wish this little man Obama would shut his mouth. For all of the supposed eloquence possessed by this fool, he has yet to say anything constructive. It is one thing to state the truth %u2013 I am all in favor of stating things as they are %u2013 but to constantly spew forth a string of negative remarks, espousing nothing but the worst aspects of our current economic calamity, is nothing but counter productive. When one is in possession of an instrument as capable of molding public sentiment as the bully pulpit the responsibility to elevate and uplift are paramount, especially considering our present state of affairs. This is not to say that one should engage in falsifying the circumstances, for that would be the height of blind irresponsibility, but one of his primary responsibilities is to uplift the population and provide hope to those in dire circumstances. Despite all of laudatory commentary concerning his rhetorical abilities on the campaign trail, as of yet he has been nothing more than a prophet of doom and gloom.

more at:
http://www.hostileopposition.blogspot.com
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by mitch5511 January 30, 2009 4:38 PM EST
IMO, one of the conditions of all bailouts should be all CEOs are fired. In addition, I would like to see another condition put into place. Any business, regardless of who they are, asking for a gov''t bailout should expect to be reorganized into a co-op. That would guarantee these "executives" would be put on the same playing field as the rest of the employees. Take the decision-making power away from them altogether.
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