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September 16, 2008 9:17 PM

Biden Labels McCain Attacks As "Republican Garbage"

(CBS)
From CBS News' Ryan Corsaro:

(MEDIA, PA.) - Ladies and gentlemen, Joe Biden says he is "sick and tired of this Republican garbage."

Biden lashed out angrily at John McCain on several points this evening in Pennsylvania, including accusations that Obama and Democrats do not support the military.

Biden, in an attempt to show McCain as contradictory in his support of veterans, pointed to McCain's refusal to vote for a new military G.I. Bill, proposed by Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., and passed in the spring.

"George Bush initially opposed it, John McCain stood with him and he called Jim Webb's effort, quote, too generous. Ladies and gentlemen, if John McCain had his way on that G.I. Bill, those military personnel who served two tours in Iraq or Afghanistan would not qualify for the same benefits that anyone in the ‘regular Army or Marine corps’ did.”

“Ask yourself the question, who supports our troops? Who supports those National Guard personnel? Who supports those reservists who make up 40 percent of the people?” asked Biden, and turned to Gov. Ed Rendell, D-Pa., in the crowd.

“I don't have to tell you that, Governor. You see them dispatched every day from your state, and you're there like I am when that flag-draped coffin comes home for some.”

As he speech went on, Biden’s tone turned from critical to one of disgust.

“I am sick and tired of this Republican garbage,” Biden said to applause from the crowd of 3,000 supporters. “I am sick and tired of being told that we don't care.”

While the McCain campaign called Biden’s comments “absurd”, a McCain campaign aide speaking on background, when asked if Biden was accurate in saying that McCain had called the G.I. Bill ‘too generous’, said "I don't know."

McCain, who is a veteran, said last spring that he feared the bill would deter soldiers from re-enlisting.

In addition, Biden accused McCain and President Bush of sharing economic views that were based on a "bankrupt philosophy".

Pointing to statements McCain had made the day before that the fundamentals of the economy being strong as the Dow Jones began a day of record losses, Biden accused McCain of re-assessing his views shortly after.

"At 10 o'clock, as we Catholics say, John had an epiphany," said Biden. "John said the economy is in economic crisis. Now what happened in one hour between the economy being sound and an economic crisis looming?

Biden called McCain's response was a "political realization, not a policy conversion."

“Today he's talking about the greed of Wall Street. Yesterday, the day before, a week before, two years before, he was on Wall Street, heralding the fact that he was proudly shredding whatever regulation and oversight that in fact worked to manage these markets that now he calls greedy,” said Biden.

While he had cheerfully introduced his young granddaughter Natalie when he took the stage on a beautiful September evening, Biden's mood became stormy as he described the tone and honesty of attacks on Obama by the McCain campaign.

"They misrepresented Barack's vote to protect young children against sexual predators. They knew it was a misrepresentation. All the press has said it, yet they're running ads saying Barack Obama wanted to teach kindergartners about sex education and sex."

Biden, who volunteered to speak publicly in defense of John McCain when rumors spread during the 2000 election about McCain's adopted child, said he was disheartened that McCain had hired the same people to run his campaign.

"You know, it genuinely disappoints me to think that John McCain really does approve this message. It really is genuinely -- I mean this sincerely -- it is genuinely disappointing," said Biden somberly before the evening sky began to turn purple.

"I did not think we would get here."

Biden promised that both he and Barack Obama would provide a difference that was more than political sloganeering.

"Ladies and gentlemen, we need, not change as a slogan, we need a fundamental alteration of how we operate this country. Yeah, this campaign's about change, but it's even about something more than that. It's about what we value as a people."
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by lanawonders September 16, 2008 10:28 PM PDT
Thanks, Senator Biden...I hope your voted Vice President of the United States of America in the upcoming election. Senator Biden your my #1 candidate.
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by fatchads September 16, 2008 10:52 PM PDT
To begin with we all know that the economy is screwed up because of a Democratic controlled congress. It was their decisions%u2019 to force banks and lending institutions to loan to individuals and minorities with questionable credit. Then to add insult to injury add pelosi to the mix, there goes the country. One month she against drilling off the shores and because of popular demand with the voters she changes her mind. She and her cohorts are trying their best to lead this country into socialism.
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by jeffc2008 September 16, 2008 10:53 PM PDT
Like it or not, Biden tells it like it is. McCain wants war, but dosn''t want to fund it. Get real your putting our soldiers in harms way and they deserve better!
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by jefflz-2009 September 16, 2008 10:54 PM PDT
The same people who managed the vicious and unrelenting campaign against Bill Clinton when he was president are using the same tactics being used against Obama. They throw as much mud and filthy lies as possible and hope that some of them stick. If they don''t, stick, they just come up with more. The public adores scandal and is fascinated by these methods. The media helps promote the lies merely by reporting the attacks. There is no apparent downside to the mudslinging and it keeps the opposition off balance. This is how Karl Rove works and since his students run the McCain campaign it is no surprise that this is one of the dirtiest campaigns on record. The lies they have promoted include the pig/lipstick story, the *** education for toddlers smear, that Obama is a Muslim, that his tax plan will hurt the middle class you name it. They have no shame and McCain has recruited these people to win his election. He has no shame either. He had no shame when he chose an inexperienced woman from Alaska to be his running mate. They converted the 2008 election into the American Idol show. McCain has plumbed the lowest depths of electoral politics. So much for honor. Despite his former sacrifices while in the military, we must now reject him as dishonest.
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by senja2 September 16, 2008 10:56 PM PDT
I listened to Joe Biden speak in flatrock and he brought tears to my eyes, get up! people , what is wrong with us, why do we allow the wealthy republican steal from us, now we have to use our tax money to bail out the rich. they get to keep theirs and take ours too. enough! obama /Biden
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by jeffc2008 September 16, 2008 10:57 PM PDT
fatchads, that bs and you know it! Every time the dems tried to do something Bush vetoed it. In fact, he vetoed over 30% of the bills the dems tried to pass. Obama has been arguing for more oversight in the financial markets for some time now. McCain has been a major proponent for for LESS oversight.
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by fatchads September 16, 2008 11:02 PM PDT
JeffC2008, it is the truth. All you have to do is watch MSNBC, or CNN, they always tell the truth!
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by jeffc2008 September 16, 2008 11:05 PM PDT
What are you smoking?



What exactly do we win with the war? I don''t see contracts for cheaper gas. I don''t see security for our country. While we are wasting our time there, other regimes are stockpiling arms and we are selling our country bit by bit to China(not exactly and alias).

And do you really think the republicans aren%u2019t socialists. What have they been doing for the last few months.

GOP = socialism for business. the GOP believes in privatizing profits and socializing losses. We are paying for socialism of industry and we aren%u2019t getting
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by grasspress September 16, 2008 11:16 PM PDT
It''s about time a Democrat candidate started to yell out about Republican abuses of the facts, and it''s about time Republicans learn they can no longer just make things up as they go along. They are depending on the electorate to forget about the past eight years and give them a fresh beginning. I hope this doesn''t happen.
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by jeffc2008 September 16, 2008 11:17 PM PDT

Obama urges more ''transparency'' on Wall Street

By William L. Watts, MarketWatch
Last update: 3:44 p.m. EDT Sept. 17, 2007Comments: 3WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama on Monday said rising home foreclosures in the wake of the subprime lending crisis underscore the need for more transparency on Wall Street and tougher oversight of financial markets.
"In recent years, we have seen a dangerous erosion of the rules and principles that have allowed our market to work and our economy to thrive," the Illinois senator said...."

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/obama-urges-more-transparency-wall/story.aspx?guid=91535144-9209-43A6-9FA9-524F7085D8B0


Also, THE FACTS: Obama acknowledges that over nearly eight years in the Illinois Senate, he voted "present" 129 times. That was out of roughly 4,000 votes he cast, so those "presents" amounted to about one of every 31 votes in his legislative career.

from http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/01/24/fact_check_obamas_present_votes/
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by bluegyro September 16, 2008 11:32 PM PDT
fatchads, can''t let you get away with blaming the democrats for the banks and lending institutions'' downfall, when it was McCain''s dear friend and advisor, Phil Gramm, who was responsible for the deregulation that led to this fiasco. No one was twisting the arms of banks and lenders--they were motivated entirely by their own greed to loan people money who they knew were high risk; to lie on paper about the qualifications of their clients; and to bamboozle some people qualified for regular loans to take the higher-interest, riskier loans. Then they furthered the flim-flam by bundling their loans and selling them to other financial institutions so that if borrowers ran into problems paying, no one at their bank or loan company had any motivation to work out an arrangement with them, as would have happened in former times. No, it''s the republicans who wanted to kiss up to the financial institutions, who opened the gates for the mad rush by banks and lenders to get into the pockets of anyone they could.

And Palin is cut from the same cloth. When she was elected mayor of Wasilla the city went from debt-free to having more than $20 million in long-term debt; that''s about $3,000 per resident. And alot of that money went to build a sports complex. That''s not fiscal conservatism in anybody''s book. And they can''t blame it on the democrats, either.
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by bluegyro September 16, 2008 11:44 PM PDT
fatchads, can''t let you get away with blaming the democrats for the banks and lending institutions'' downfall, when it was McCain''s dear friend and advisor, Phil Gramm, who was responsible for the deregulation that led to this fiasco. No one was twisting the arms of banks and lenders--they were motivated entirely by their own greed to loan people money who they knew were high risk; to lie on paper about the qualifications of their clients; and to bamboozle some people qualified for regular loans to take the higher-interest, riskier loans. Then they furthered the flim-flam by bundling their loans and selling them to other financial institutions so that if borrowers ran into problems paying, no one at their bank or loan company had any motivation to work out an arrangement with them, as would have happened in former times. No, it''s the republicans who wanted to kiss up to the financial institutions, who opened the gates for the mad rush by banks and lenders to get into the pockets of anyone they could.

And Palin is cut from the same cloth. When she was elected mayor of Wasilla the city went from debt-free to having more than $20 million in long-term debt; that''s about $3,000 per resident. And alot of that money went to build a sports complex. That''s not fiscal conservatism in anybody''s book. And they can''t blame it on the democrats, either.
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by jeffc2008 September 16, 2008 11:45 PM PDT
More class than Obama LOL. Have you actually heard any of the *** he''s been saying lately? The republians will do and say anything to win. McCain may have been a good person at one point, but he has sold his soul to win this election (and yes, he also took money from Fannie and Freddie, most buissnesses give poloticians money...)
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by jeffc2008 September 16, 2008 11:49 PM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/7/3/0717/55880/710/545421
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by jeffc2008 September 17, 2008 12:00 AM PDT
yawn...
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by smurfcrusher September 17, 2008 12:11 AM PDT
Check out how McCain suddenly acts like he was all FOR the GI Bill, when 24 hours previously, he tried to kill it !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR3FjHIbe_s
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by smurfcrusher September 17, 2008 12:16 AM PDT
I think 50 days is enough time for all McCain''s lies and distortions to coalesce in the minds of the voters; and when they see him for what he is, his political future is damned.
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by swingstate2 September 17, 2008 12:16 AM PDT
bgmusic you are quite wrong about Obama having more $ than McCain. ''McCain, Republicans Have Twice as Much Cash as Obama'' -http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aEw0nJObN54E&refer=home
And now McCain is skirting the limits of federal financing...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/16/AR2008091603321.html
Your comments are very poorly researched and generally wrong.
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by wilder5121 September 17, 2008 3:34 AM PDT
You people defending the Republican Party are the GARBAGE Biden was referring to. Incredibly, after eight years of incompetence, failure, and getting screwed in your rear ends...you''re STILL as ignorant and stupid as McCain thinks you are. You make most Americans want to puke, but I''m laughing...because you''re getting exactly what you deserve: ***** on the end of a stick.
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by amnstymccain September 17, 2008 4:28 AM PDT
Obama is an empty suit, the O''''crooks in the O''''bama campaign are THE WORSE OF THE WORSE CHICAGO POLITICS and we are all seeing it. The man has already lost - and that''''s counting all the bogus voters ACORN has been registering...
Posted by bgmusic at 12:23 AM : Sep 17, 2008
*** I would rather have an empty suit than amnesty mccain! I''ll take the emnpty suit, you go ahead and vote for amnesty mccain and his over 20 million illegal supporters to get amnesty!
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by amnstymccain September 17, 2008 4:29 AM PDT
This is the party of hate, racist, class division and CROOKS... and then you want to talk to me about BUSH... Yeh RIGHT
Posted by bgmusic at 12:19 AM : Sep 17, 2008
**** I''d rather support the party of hate, rather than amnesty mccain and over 20 million illegal mexicans!
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by amnstymccain September 17, 2008 4:31 AM PDT
Mexico for the mexicans
America for AMERICANS!
Obama 2008!
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by amnstymccain September 17, 2008 4:34 AM PDT
Obama/Biden 2008! Time to take America back from the illegal mexicans! Send Amnesty Mccain to mexico so he can live with his people! Obama 2008!
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by rafterman1 September 17, 2008 6:35 AM PDT
===This is the party of hate, racist, class division and CROOKS... and then you want to talk to me about BUSH... Yeh RIGHT===
Posted by bgmusic

And I suppose the Republicans are the party of love, equality and law and order?

Its scary how much you neocons believe your own hype.
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by lordmi September 17, 2008 6:52 AM PDT
Joe, beat them More and more and more
for every phrase
for every false
for every peny spent for Pit Bulls pleassures
Every moment - beat GOP''s Garbage.
And we will do the same in our locations.
Yes, we can.
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by lordmi September 17, 2008 6:53 AM PDT
to amnstymccain - the emtiest thing here is You along with Ticket of idiots - McWar &Pit Bull.
Enough Idiots!
Get out from the way.
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by ttkkdd September 17, 2008 7:06 AM PDT
Way to go Joe!!!
Deport McSame and Palin to Georgia!
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by credibility2 September 17, 2008 7:34 AM PDT
The Dems have controlled the Congress and have been dismissive and disinterested in anything that has been affecting our nation, including the economy. The only things the Dem controlled Congress has been concerned about is getting pay raises and a reduced work week and trying to push their socialist agenda, including their candidate for president. Biden is a fool and has to make lies up so he can appear to be interested in being Obama''s running mate. I''d say he''s very uncomfortable right now since he''s realzing each day what a moral sell-out he is standing next to a political and social fraud like Obama. Power corrupts and Biden has been forever corrupted by the likes of being Obama''s running mater. The Dems are far worse than the Repubs have ever been.
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by mavsreader September 17, 2008 7:51 AM PDT
Republicans claim to be big on accountability. Yet, when it comes time to take some, it''s always someone else''s fault.

Show me someone who is accountable,I''ll show you s/he''s not republican.
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by September 17, 2008 8:08 AM PDT
Love this comment:

"The Dems have controlled the Congress and have been dismissive and disinterested in anything that has been affecting our nation, including the economy."

Reality check:

For less than 2 years

And who controlled it for 12 years prior as the seeds were set? That would be Republicans, house and senate.

The average time it takes to get a bill passed? Nearly two years.

Who was involved with the Keating 5 ethics investigation?

That would be John McCain and far from being "cleared" here is what the report stated: "John McCain was cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment".

Poor judgement then, por judgement now, poor judgement as president if he gets there.

Does this sound familiar? "The U.S. Savings and Loan crisis of the 1980s and 1990s was the failure of 747 savings and loans"

"The core allegation of the Keating Five affair is that Keating had made contributions of about $1.3 million to various U.S. Senators, and he called on those Senators to help him resist regulators. The regulators backed off, to later disastrous consequences."

Republican controlled house and snate, no oversite no ethics.

The ethics committee was heavily Republican, guess who got off? John McCain the only Republican. Duh!

More Republican Kool-Aid in the lobby!



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by jeffc2008 September 17, 2008 8:12 AM PDT
Good laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c
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by mrtutto September 17, 2008 10:15 AM PDT
Sarah Palin is only going to the United Nations for a meet and greet and you can be sure that this will appear in her resume as foreign policy experience.
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by missglo September 17, 2008 12:32 PM PDT
Go get them Biden! We are in agreement with you 100 per cent.
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by agrippamom September 19, 2008 1:37 AM PDT
Yes, he absolutely said the GI Bill''s provisions were "too generous". I remember when he said it. Jim Webb is my Senator; he went to work on that bill almost from the first day he entered the Senate, and worked hard on it. Throughout the process, both Bush and McCain stubbornly REFUSED to support it; I watched many interviews with Webb, who simply couldn''t understand McCain''s attitude. McCain failed to consider that most of our soldiers are VOLUNTEERS, not professionals, but they deserve those benefits just the same. I listened to McCain''s twisted logic and ridiculous explanations and excuses: it all boiled down to a hard-hearted man who never seemed to look at our soldiers as real people. He has the same problem with average Americans. Let''s face it: as a soldier, he was the son and grandson of admirals, graduate of the Naval Academy (although almost at the bottom of his class), and far removed from the average Joe. As a human being, he''s; married to an heiress; has 10 houses; has a megamillion dollar bank account; wears $520 shoes; and has a wife who wore $300,000 draped around her the night of Sarah Palin''s acceptance speech ($280,000 was for her earrings alone). He couldn''t understand how tough it was for our veterans before the bill passed, any more than he can for middle and lower class people now. Empathy, sympathy, and human understanding don''t equate if you have no point of reference, whether for an ordinary soldier or an ordinary citizen.
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