The "Not Too Important" Debate
A partisan back-and-forth is raging today over comments John McCain made this morning on "Today."
Host Matt Lauer asked McCain if he now has "a better estimate of when American forces can come home from Iraq."
"No, but that's not too important," McCain replied. "What's important is the casualties in Iraq. Americans are in South Korea, Americans are in Japan, American troops are in Germany. That's all fine...the key to it is we don't want any more Americans in harm's way."
Democrats quickly seized on the "not too important" part of the quote.
Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Joseph R. Biden Jr. – a potential running mate for Barack Obama – said this: “Senator McCain’s comment is evidence that he is totally out of touch with the needs of our troops and the national security needs of our nation. I think many of our brave soldiers and their families would disagree that it’s ‘not too important’ when they come home."
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi also weighed in: “Senator McCain’s statement that it is ‘not too important’ when U.S. troops are redeployed from Iraq is yet another indication how out of touch he is with the effect the war in Iraq is having on the readiness of our military."
As did House Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel: “When asked this morning about American troops coming home from Iraq, John McCain said ‘that’s not too important.’ Senator McCain, to the men and women who are serving their second, third, or even fourth deployment in Iraq, and to their families, it is incredibly important."
And former Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry, on a conference call with two Obama foreign policy advisors, said "It is unbelievably out of touch and inconsistent with the needs and concerns of Americans. To them it’s the most important thing in the world when they come home, and it’s the most important thing in the world that we have a commander in chief who understands how they come home."
This afternoon, McCain's camp pushed back against the Democratic offensive on a conference call.
"To put it mildly I am disappointed by these reflexive attacks on what Senator McCain said this morning on the Today Show," said Sen. Joe Lieberman. "Because if you read the paragraph and not take a single clause out of context it is very obvious what John McCain is saying and it is consistent with everything he said along the way."
"This clearly is a deliberate distortion that is trying to change the subject," added Sen. John Thune. "The Democrats are trying to blow this up as an issue because they don't want to talk about the success of the surge and the stability that's been delivered throughout Iraq. And they don't want to talk about the differences between Senator McCain and Senator Obama which could not be more distinct when it comes to the issue of winning in Iraq."
"Frankly to suggest for a moment after everything that Senator McCain and his family have been through that he doesn't understand the sacrifice our troops are making is just absurd," he added.
In a statement, McCain campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds said “The Obama campaign is embarking on a false attack on John McCain to hide their own candidate’s willingness to disregard facts on the ground in pursuit of withdrawal no matter what the costs."
"John McCain was asked if he had a ‘better estimate’ for a timeline for withdrawal," he continued. "As John McCain has always said, that is not as important as conditions on the ground and the recommendations of commanders in the field. Any reasonable person who reads the full transcript would see this and reject the Obama campaign’s attempt to manipulate, twist and distort the truth.”
You can watch the full exchange here.
Host Matt Lauer asked McCain if he now has "a better estimate of when American forces can come home from Iraq."
"No, but that's not too important," McCain replied. "What's important is the casualties in Iraq. Americans are in South Korea, Americans are in Japan, American troops are in Germany. That's all fine...the key to it is we don't want any more Americans in harm's way."
Democrats quickly seized on the "not too important" part of the quote.
Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Joseph R. Biden Jr. – a potential running mate for Barack Obama – said this: “Senator McCain’s comment is evidence that he is totally out of touch with the needs of our troops and the national security needs of our nation. I think many of our brave soldiers and their families would disagree that it’s ‘not too important’ when they come home."
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi also weighed in: “Senator McCain’s statement that it is ‘not too important’ when U.S. troops are redeployed from Iraq is yet another indication how out of touch he is with the effect the war in Iraq is having on the readiness of our military."
As did House Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel: “When asked this morning about American troops coming home from Iraq, John McCain said ‘that’s not too important.’ Senator McCain, to the men and women who are serving their second, third, or even fourth deployment in Iraq, and to their families, it is incredibly important."
And former Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry, on a conference call with two Obama foreign policy advisors, said "It is unbelievably out of touch and inconsistent with the needs and concerns of Americans. To them it’s the most important thing in the world when they come home, and it’s the most important thing in the world that we have a commander in chief who understands how they come home."
This afternoon, McCain's camp pushed back against the Democratic offensive on a conference call.
"To put it mildly I am disappointed by these reflexive attacks on what Senator McCain said this morning on the Today Show," said Sen. Joe Lieberman. "Because if you read the paragraph and not take a single clause out of context it is very obvious what John McCain is saying and it is consistent with everything he said along the way."
"This clearly is a deliberate distortion that is trying to change the subject," added Sen. John Thune. "The Democrats are trying to blow this up as an issue because they don't want to talk about the success of the surge and the stability that's been delivered throughout Iraq. And they don't want to talk about the differences between Senator McCain and Senator Obama which could not be more distinct when it comes to the issue of winning in Iraq."
"Frankly to suggest for a moment after everything that Senator McCain and his family have been through that he doesn't understand the sacrifice our troops are making is just absurd," he added.
In a statement, McCain campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds said “The Obama campaign is embarking on a false attack on John McCain to hide their own candidate’s willingness to disregard facts on the ground in pursuit of withdrawal no matter what the costs."
"John McCain was asked if he had a ‘better estimate’ for a timeline for withdrawal," he continued. "As John McCain has always said, that is not as important as conditions on the ground and the recommendations of commanders in the field. Any reasonable person who reads the full transcript would see this and reject the Obama campaign’s attempt to manipulate, twist and distort the truth.”
You can watch the full exchange here.
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See all 69 CommentsYou know, for once I have nothing to add.
My friend.
McCain has made no bones about the fact that he wants a permanent presence in Iraq. Which is the problem. Because he keeps saying what he wants to do over and over again.
Let''s recap: McCain said his "100 year" comment was taken out of context - he meant 100 year occupation without casualties. So will the troops leave in a McCain Presidency?
Well, McCain clarified when the war would end and the occupation could begin in his 2013 ad. So even if you ignore the occupation, the "when" is, according to McCain''s own clarification, after a theoretical McCain first term.
So has McCain ever, ever said anything but that troops would remain in Iraq if he were President? Never. He''s been very clear about his position, which is Kinsley''s definition of a "gaffe" - when a politician accidentally says the truth.
Article I
Creating a Secret Propaganda Campaign to Manufacture a False Case for War Against Iraq
Article II
Falsely, Systematically, and with Criminal Intent Conflating the Attacks of September 11, 2001, With Misrepresentation of Iraq as a Security Threat as Part of Fraudulent Justification for a War of
Aggression
Article III
Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Possessed Weapons of Mass Destruction, to Manufacture a False Case for War
Article IV
Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Posed an Imminent Threat to the United States
Article V
Illegally Misspending Funds to Secretly Begin a War of Aggression
Article VI
Invading Iraq in Violation of the Requirements of HJRes114
Article VII
Invading Iraq Absent a Declaration of War.
Article VIII
Invading Iraq, A Sovereign Nation, in Violation of the UN Charter
Article IX
Failing to Provide Troops With Body Armor and Vehicle Armor
Article X
Falsifying Accounts of US Troop Deaths and Injuries for Political Purposes
Article XI
Establishment of Permanent U.S. Military Bases in Iraq
Article XII
Initiating a War Against Iraq for Control of That Nation''s Natural Resources
Article XIIII
Creating a Secret Task Force to Develop Energy and Military Policies With Respect to Iraq and Other Countries
is the continued running costs to the American People. It%u2019s time to stop the unwarranted spending and deaths. And, holding for the Republicans Accountable.
A vote for John McCain is a vote for War, Corruption, Deaths and Destruction.
Great post ! !
But are you sure that''s official?
I''m sure I''ve been seeing this
posted fairly often on several sites from seven years ago right on up till now !
http://chun.afterdowningstreet.org/amomentoftruth.pdf
THERE IS NOTHING IN THE MIDDLE EAST AMERICA NEEDS!
WAR CRIMES TRIALS SHOULD START NOW FOR THE IRAQ WAR!
AMERICA STAND UP OR SHUT UP!
DEMAND YOUR COUNTRY BACK!
John, just try to tell their families that the lives of those whom you and your predecessor are sacrificing every day are not important.
Yes, we know your name, John. We read about you often enough. But you know what, John, your comment shows that you are not very important at all. No, not important indeed.
So, people should not vote for you.
Why?
With that attitude, you are not really important enough to be President of the United States.
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Posted by DavidE73 at 05:35 PM : Jun 11, 2008
How is that exactly?? I listened to this interview and as a Combat Vet I felt shivers run up my spine when it came out of his mouth. Someone like Bush says things like that and you just write it off as IGNORANCE but this guy is SUPPOSED to be a Veteran, he''s SUPPOSED to know what those people are going through so far from their families. Then there''s the COST to this nation... It''s staggering when we can''t build bridges in this NATION!!
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Posted by arthurford at 07:33 PM : Jun 11, 2008
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Oh I agree with you. I remember in nam how we kept short timers calendars. With that guys would be nearly out of their minds when the tour was about to end. I can''t imagine being forced into your 3rd or 4th tour. They are killing themselves in RECORD numbers... doesn''t he UNDERSTAND any at all??
They''re not coming home anytime soon, I don''t care how many FAKE promises Barak Pinko Obama makes!
The man plans an already proven failed strategy of TALK! What''s the ******* going to do when the TALK runs out???
Fact is, he hasn''t a clue, and we''ll have already been there five more years while he yaps his jaws for NOTHING!
Posted by RowdyWicca at 07:59 PM : Jun 11, 2008
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Now I sat and listened to what John McCain said. Everyone did and it was NOT something that should be said about our troops! How can anyone say anything like that? There''s no way to spin this one my friend... NO vet would EVER say what McCain said KNOWNING how much those people had been through... NO VET in his right mind that is. Nope, you can spin all you want but I sat and listened very carefully and what he said is what he said.
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Posted by SgtRDS-E4 at 07:51 PM : Jun 11, 2008
Hey Brother. Quite right... when you can''t get a nights sleep and the family is Thousands of miles away, this kind of think just takes everything out of you. I really don''t know what he was thinking or if he was thinking but as you know, to someone who''s in the position these guys are, it''s very dishearting!
All my neighbors can use a computer.
The teachers that teach my children can use computers.
My 6 year old daughter can use a computer.
Barack Obama can use a computer.
John McCain doesn''t know how to use a computer. What a sad, old man. He''s so intellectually curious, that he''s never learned to use something so simple as a computer. What an out of touch old man.
But seriously, the truly scary part here is that McCain doesn''t see the difference between Iraq and Germany. And his stregnths are supposed to be foreign policy and security?
This is simply further proof, that as it pertains to his single issue [the Iraq War], McCain is incompetent.
Heaven forbid he be elected!!
SEN. McCAIN: No. No. I%u2013the fact is that I%u2019m different but the fact is that I have agreed with President Bush far more than I have disagreed. And on the transcendent issues, the most important issues of our day, I%u2019ve been totally in agreement and support of President Bush.
John McCain
Running for US President
This is simply further proof, that as it pertains to his single issue [the Iraq War], McCain is incompetent.
Heaven forbid he be elected!!
Posted by GreatDriveW at 10:09 PM : Jun 11, 2008
...well, John McCain was a great Warrior but a President he is not. He is stuggling and it''s sad to see him doing a town meeting, he looks like he''s forcing it.
They''''re not coming home anytime soon, I don''''t care how many FAKE promises Barak Pinko Obama makes!
The man plans an already proven failed strategy of TALK! What''''s the ******* going to do when the TALK runs out???
Fact is, he hasn''''t a clue, and we''''ll have already been there five more years while he yaps his jaws for NOTHING!
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When asked how that assessment comports with recent polls that show about two-thirds of Americans say the fight in Iraq is not worth it, Cheney replied, ''So?''
Let''s not give McCain the chance to say, ''So?'' when asked about Iran.
*** I''d rather Have Obama make me promies of a better America, rather than Juan Amnesty Mccain telling me that he wants to let over 12 million illegal immigrants get amnesty and take our blue collar jobs from us! Atleast Obama offers hope. Mccain offers us more of Bush''s failed policy ideas! Why would anyone want more of Bush''s horrible economic ideas? When is Bush/Mccain going to release proof of tax cuts for the extremely wealthy creating jobs? Those tax cuts don''t create jobs, if so, then show us!!!!!
Posted by SHURCH4Truth at 11:01 PM : Jun 11, 2008
*** yeah... all we would get from Mccain would be another bush, that has military experience, dear god would we be in trouble if he got elected. Please don''t let rich criminals keep power. Vote Democrat this November!
Posted by RowdyWicca at 11:57 PM : Jun 11, 2008
*** I''d rather have a Democratic president while we are there for 5 or more years, because atleast then the wealthiest of Americans will pay their fair share of taxes, unlike how they have gotten away with everything under bush. If tax cuts for the wealthiest of Americans really creates jobs, then why can''t the republican''s release figures proving so? Why? Because they can''t! Those tax cuts are just to pay back the people that paid their campaign!
Posted by SHURCH4Truth at 11:01 PM : Jun 11, 2008"
Excuse me but what makes you say that McCain was a great warrior ?
I''m still very curious to see what great he achieved when being in the army.
Posted by lottobee at 10:58 PM : Jun 11, 2008"
Actually, he flew more than one. He actually trashed five of them, only one in combat.
Posted by RGRXX175 at 04:27 PM : Jun 11, 2008
Nor the bombing of the USS Forrestal ?
Posted by lottobee at 10:58 PM : Jun 11, 2008
Excuse me but your swastika is showing!! Because this OLD TIRED Senator served in the military no more makes him capable of leading this nation than a frog does of laying eggs! This is also NOT "parsing words". This IS about putting a man who seem to lack the basic knowledge of what it''s like to actually BE on the ground in Combat and someone who seems willing to keep our troops IN that combat unending. I saw a lot like him in the Marine Corps... they LOVE the idea of war, they LOVE the idea of being in command of a War. This Old Man can NOT wait to get his chubby little hands on the worlds most lethal military and there is NO doubt about that. Not a good choice to lead a nation that''s supposed to be guided by CIVILIAN Government. SIEG HEIL BUSH By the way the "A-4" IS NOT a fighter jet....
They''''''''re not coming home anytime soon, I don''''''''t care how many FAKE promises Barak Pinko Obama makes!
The man plans an already proven failed strategy of TALK! What''''''''s the ******* going to do when the TALK runs out???
Fact is, he hasn''''''''t a clue, and we''''''''ll have already been there five more years while he yaps his jaws for NOTHING!
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Posted by RowdyWicca at 11:57 PM : Jun 11, 2008
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Can YOU put away the hood and sheet for a few minutes and consentrate swastika breath?? This isn''t about Obama and YOU attacking him about this shows how bigoted and selfish you are. This is about a man who seems to lack the ability to retain basic knowledge about the situation at hand and the conditions our military is serving under. They are KILLING themselves in RECORD numbers. They have RECORD Numbers coming home mentally unstable. Now we have someone who wants to lead this nation telling us all that it''s "Not too Important" when they come home. Now Sparky, even in the land of the burning cross, that''s a BIGGIE! Okay you can put your hood and sheet back on now. Ready?? SIEG HEIL GRAND WIZARD!!
Let''s be blunt. Through those actions, McCain betrayed the oath he took when joining the military (and, as a result, he betrayed his country, his country''s Navy, his ship and his shipmates) for personal gain.
Hero? Simply surviving by selling out your commrades does not a hero make.
Obama''s visit to Africa ''06
(Where are the transcripts of the speeches
he gave here? Campaigning for Odinga?
Wouldn''t it be great to be able to read these?
Do the people of the State of Illinois know
about Obama''s radical background?)
Barack''s father, Muslim, hard-drinker,
Was married three times, attended
Harvard and returned to Kenya.
Obama claims he was an atheist,
But he was raised Muslim and was
Given a Muslim burial at Barack''s
family''s request.
Barack has stated his support for Luo
Raila Odinga (Opposition Leader in
Kenya who signed a ''Shariah pact''
With Muslims and claims to be Obama''s
cousin) and is married to Ida Odinga.
They have four children - two sons and
two daughters. His oldest son, Fidel, is
named after Fidel Castro.
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