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June 11, 2008 3:13 PM

The "Not Too Important" Debate

A partisan back-and-forth is raging today over comments John McCain made this morning on "Today."

Host Matt Lauer asked McCain if he now has "a better estimate of when American forces can come home from Iraq."

"No, but that's not too important," McCain replied. "What's important is the casualties in Iraq. Americans are in South Korea, Americans are in Japan, American troops are in Germany. That's all fine...the key to it is we don't want any more Americans in harm's way."

Democrats quickly seized on the "not too important" part of the quote.

Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Joseph R. Biden Jr. – a potential running mate for Barack Obama – said this: “Senator McCain’s comment is evidence that he is totally out of touch with the needs of our troops and the national security needs of our nation. I think many of our brave soldiers and their families would disagree that it’s ‘not too important’ when they come home."

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi also weighed in: “Senator McCain’s statement that it is ‘not too important’ when U.S. troops are redeployed from Iraq is yet another indication how out of touch he is with the effect the war in Iraq is having on the readiness of our military."

As did House Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel: “When asked this morning about American troops coming home from Iraq, John McCain said ‘that’s not too important.’ Senator McCain, to the men and women who are serving their second, third, or even fourth deployment in Iraq, and to their families, it is incredibly important."

And former Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry, on a conference call with two Obama foreign policy advisors, said "It is unbelievably out of touch and inconsistent with the needs and concerns of Americans. To them it’s the most important thing in the world when they come home, and it’s the most important thing in the world that we have a commander in chief who understands how they come home."

This afternoon, McCain's camp pushed back against the Democratic offensive on a conference call.

"To put it mildly I am disappointed by these reflexive attacks on what Senator McCain said this morning on the Today Show," said Sen. Joe Lieberman. "Because if you read the paragraph and not take a single clause out of context it is very obvious what John McCain is saying and it is consistent with everything he said along the way."

"This clearly is a deliberate distortion that is trying to change the subject," added Sen. John Thune. "The Democrats are trying to blow this up as an issue because they don't want to talk about the success of the surge and the stability that's been delivered throughout Iraq. And they don't want to talk about the differences between Senator McCain and Senator Obama which could not be more distinct when it comes to the issue of winning in Iraq."

"Frankly to suggest for a moment after everything that Senator McCain and his family have been through that he doesn't understand the sacrifice our troops are making is just absurd," he added.

In a statement, McCain campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds said “The Obama campaign is embarking on a false attack on John McCain to hide their own candidate’s willingness to disregard facts on the ground in pursuit of withdrawal no matter what the costs."

"John McCain was asked if he had a ‘better estimate’ for a timeline for withdrawal," he continued. "As John McCain has always said, that is not as important as conditions on the ground and the recommendations of commanders in the field. Any reasonable person who reads the full transcript would see this and reject the Obama campaign’s attempt to manipulate, twist and distort the truth.”

You can watch the full exchange here.
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by beaujolie1 June 11, 2008 3:31 PM PDT
when they are deployed will always be important to the soldiers and their families and loved ones, and the fact that McCain clearly does not understand that, and has to once again have Sen. Lieberman ''explain'' his comments or correct his comments really underscores the lack of true leadership ability of McCain.
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by memekiller June 11, 2008 4:20 PM PDT
McCain, as he said, clearly didn''t say it was important "if" the troops, but "when" -- 2113.
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by broadwayphi June 11, 2008 4:23 PM PDT
"Not too important."

You know, for once I have nothing to add.

My friend.
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by rgrxx175 June 11, 2008 4:27 PM PDT
i guess the keating five is not important either?
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by memekiller June 11, 2008 4:32 PM PDT
What is McCain trying to say? That he doesn''t want to keep troops in Iraq?

McCain has made no bones about the fact that he wants a permanent presence in Iraq. Which is the problem. Because he keeps saying what he wants to do over and over again.

Let''s recap: McCain said his "100 year" comment was taken out of context - he meant 100 year occupation without casualties. So will the troops leave in a McCain Presidency?

Well, McCain clarified when the war would end and the occupation could begin in his 2013 ad. So even if you ignore the occupation, the "when" is, according to McCain''s own clarification, after a theoretical McCain first term.

So has McCain ever, ever said anything but that troops would remain in Iraq if he were President? Never. He''s been very clear about his position, which is Kinsley''s definition of a "gaffe" - when a politician accidentally says the truth.
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by mattcat25 June 11, 2008 4:37 PM PDT
Republican Party Policy on Iraq:
Article I
Creating a Secret Propaganda Campaign to Manufacture a False Case for War Against Iraq

Article II
Falsely, Systematically, and with Criminal Intent Conflating the Attacks of September 11, 2001, With Misrepresentation of Iraq as a Security Threat as Part of Fraudulent Justification for a War of
Aggression

Article III
Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Possessed Weapons of Mass Destruction, to Manufacture a False Case for War

Article IV
Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Posed an Imminent Threat to the United States

Article V
Illegally Misspending Funds to Secretly Begin a War of Aggression

Article VI
Invading Iraq in Violation of the Requirements of HJRes114

Article VII
Invading Iraq Absent a Declaration of War.

Article VIII
Invading Iraq, A Sovereign Nation, in Violation of the UN Charter

Article IX
Failing to Provide Troops With Body Armor and Vehicle Armor

Article X
Falsifying Accounts of US Troop Deaths and Injuries for Political Purposes

Article XI
Establishment of Permanent U.S. Military Bases in Iraq

Article XII
Initiating a War Against Iraq for Control of That Nation''s Natural Resources

Article XIIII
Creating a Secret Task Force to Develop Energy and Military Policies With Respect to Iraq and Other Countries
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by hangelle June 11, 2008 4:42 PM PDT
Why does McCain need Joe Lieberman to tell us what he meant? If McCain had any sense, he''d tell that turncoat to stay the hell away. Its not faring well for him in either camp. In any case, ''not too important'' is going to stick with me for a long time -- probably until November...
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by jack3213 June 11, 2008 4:49 PM PDT
The thing about competition for the long haul is that every word is raken as literal, there is no readfing between the lines, and there is assumption smade and rumnours spread based on things people want to hear, not what is meant. YOU have to careful what you hear and what you read- If you are the type that takes things at ''face value'' than you will have real problems. McCain is correct, but you have to understand the depth of his mind, and the experiance behind it. Obama is NOT experianced, so it is as if he keeps touching the hot stove and finding it hot, when he should have learned more- for this BIG LEAGUE- He will LOSE in a very big, big way.
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by jack3213 June 11, 2008 4:50 PM PDT
The thing about competition for the long haul is that every word is taken as literal, there is no reading between the lines, and there is assumptions made and rumours spread based on things people want to hear, not what is meant. YOU have to careful what you hear and what you read- If you are the type that takes things at ''face value'' than you will have real problems. McCain is correct, but you have to understand the depth of his mind, and the experiance behind it. Obama is NOT experianced, so it is as if he keeps touching the hot stove and finding it hot, when he should have learned more- for this is the BIG LEAGUE- He will LOSE in a very big, big way.
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by jack3213 June 11, 2008 4:51 PM PDT
The thing about competition for the long haul is that every word is taken as literal, there is reading between the lines, and there is assumptions made and rumours spread based on things people want to hear, not what is meant. YOU have to careful what you hear and what you read- If you are the type that takes things at ''''face value'''' than you will have real problems. McCain is correct, but you have to understand the depth of his mind, and the experiance behind it. Obama is NOT experianced, so it is as if he keeps touching the hot stove and finding it hot, when he should have learned more- for this is the BIG LEAGUE- He will LOSE in a very big, big way.

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by mattcat25 June 11, 2008 4:54 PM PDT
Iraq has only put the US in a hole. Nothing good will be able to come from Bush%u2019s War of Aggression. The Republicans don%u2019t care about anything, or anyone except their Private War Contractor Profits. $527,422,129,888

is the continued running costs to the American People. It%u2019s time to stop the unwarranted spending and deaths. And, holding for the Republicans Accountable.


A vote for John McCain is a vote for War, Corruption, Deaths and Destruction.
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by smirk5 June 11, 2008 4:57 PM PDT
Does John McCain support his immigration bill today? Would McCain have to consult Lieberman first to find out?
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by stevex47 June 11, 2008 5:13 PM PDT
What''s not important is mcsame.
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by ajaxtheleast June 11, 2008 5:15 PM PDT
MATTcat25

Great post ! !

But are you sure that''s official?

I''m sure I''ve been seeing this
posted fairly often on several sites from seven years ago right on up till now !
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by pvperson June 11, 2008 5:18 PM PDT
Lieberman needs to better his control of McBush. Yet again we see what happens when John goes out without his keeper.
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by mattcat25 June 11, 2008 5:23 PM PDT
On June 10, 2008 - Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich introduced 35 Articles of Impeachment against President George W. Bush in a dramatic presentation on the floor of the House of Representatives that lasted nearly five hours.

http://chun.afterdowningstreet.org/amomentoftruth.pdf
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by davide73-2009 June 11, 2008 5:35 PM PDT
By focusing on nuances of words instead of over-arching policies, CBS is showing that its journalism is also "not too important".
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by bluestardad June 11, 2008 5:56 PM PDT
WELL IF MCCAINS SUPPORT IS COMING FROM THAT AIPAC, DUEL PASSPORT HOLDING ISRAELI, JOE LIEBERMAN THEN AMERICA SHOULD KNOW THAT OUR NATIONAL INTREST ARE NOT PARAMOUNT IN MCCAINS MIND!

THERE IS NOTHING IN THE MIDDLE EAST AMERICA NEEDS!

WAR CRIMES TRIALS SHOULD START NOW FOR THE IRAQ WAR!

AMERICA STAND UP OR SHUT UP!

DEMAND YOUR COUNTRY BACK!
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by rrcampbell1 June 11, 2008 6:07 PM PDT
For McCain, evidently the lives of American troops as well as the lives of innocent civilians in Iraq are not too important to you.

John, just try to tell their families that the lives of those whom you and your predecessor are sacrificing every day are not important.

Yes, we know your name, John. We read about you often enough. But you know what, John, your comment shows that you are not very important at all. No, not important indeed.

So, people should not vote for you.

Why?

With that attitude, you are not really important enough to be President of the United States.

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by rickstas June 11, 2008 6:14 PM PDT
Lieberman -- an Isreali operative loyal first to Isreal, second to the USA -- is a fine one to quote!
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by skyk-2009 June 11, 2008 7:28 PM PDT
I truly hate to say this but John just doesn''t have it... he may have once had what it takes to lead the most powerful nation on the planet but that has come and gone. I watched him speak the other night and had the same feeling. I can only imagine how the families of our Troops must feel about now. They were LIED into the situation they are in and now someone running for Commander in Chief say''s it doesn''t matter when they come home. YES it DOES matter, it MATTERS a lot.
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by skyk-2009 June 11, 2008 7:31 PM PDT
By focusing on nuances of words instead of over-arching policies, CBS is showing that its journalism is also "not too important".


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Posted by DavidE73 at 05:35 PM : Jun 11, 2008

How is that exactly?? I listened to this interview and as a Combat Vet I felt shivers run up my spine when it came out of his mouth. Someone like Bush says things like that and you just write it off as IGNORANCE but this guy is SUPPOSED to be a Veteran, he''s SUPPOSED to know what those people are going through so far from their families. Then there''s the COST to this nation... It''s staggering when we can''t build bridges in this NATION!!
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by arthurford June 11, 2008 7:33 PM PDT
I''m a veteran. I was on the fence, but not now. Service members and their families deserve WAY more than "No, but that''s not too important." The people serving there are our kids, grandkids, nieces, nephews, relatives, friends. Mr. McCain, they may not be important to you, but they sure are to us.
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by skyk-2009 June 11, 2008 7:36 PM PDT
I''''m a veteran. I was on the fence, but not now. Service members and their families deserve WAY more than "No, but that''''s not too important." The people serving there are our kids, grandkids, nieces, nephews, relatives, friends. Mr. McCain, they may not be important to you, but they sure are to us.


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Posted by arthurford at 07:33 PM : Jun 11, 2008
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Oh I agree with you. I remember in nam how we kept short timers calendars. With that guys would be nearly out of their minds when the tour was about to end. I can''t imagine being forced into your 3rd or 4th tour. They are killing themselves in RECORD numbers... doesn''t he UNDERSTAND any at all??
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by sgtrds-e4 June 11, 2008 7:51 PM PDT
It may not be that important to McCain, but it sure as hell is important to the soldiers the government is using as cannon fodder over there now.
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by rowdywicca June 11, 2008 7:59 PM PDT
Any numb nuts knows it''s more important right now to do the best they can to keep the soldiers safe!

They''re not coming home anytime soon, I don''t care how many FAKE promises Barak Pinko Obama makes!

The man plans an already proven failed strategy of TALK! What''s the ******* going to do when the TALK runs out???

Fact is, he hasn''t a clue, and we''ll have already been there five more years while he yaps his jaws for NOTHING!
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Posted by RowdyWicca at 07:59 PM : Jun 11, 2008
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Now I sat and listened to what John McCain said. Everyone did and it was NOT something that should be said about our troops! How can anyone say anything like that? There''s no way to spin this one my friend... NO vet would EVER say what McCain said KNOWNING how much those people had been through... NO VET in his right mind that is. Nope, you can spin all you want but I sat and listened very carefully and what he said is what he said.
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by skyk-2009 June 11, 2008 9:43 PM PDT
It may not be that important to McCain, but it sure as hell is important to the soldiers the government is using as cannon fodder over there now.


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Posted by SgtRDS-E4 at 07:51 PM : Jun 11, 2008

Hey Brother. Quite right... when you can''t get a nights sleep and the family is Thousands of miles away, this kind of think just takes everything out of you. I really don''t know what he was thinking or if he was thinking but as you know, to someone who''s in the position these guys are, it''s very dishearting!
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by smirk5 June 11, 2008 10:04 PM PDT
My doctor can use a computer.
All my neighbors can use a computer.
The teachers that teach my children can use computers.
My 6 year old daughter can use a computer.
Barack Obama can use a computer.
John McCain doesn''t know how to use a computer. What a sad, old man. He''s so intellectually curious, that he''s never learned to use something so simple as a computer. What an out of touch old man.
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by smirk5 June 11, 2008 10:06 PM PDT
Incidentally, my 82 year old father-in-law can use a computer. So, it''s not McCain''s extremely advanced old age that causes him to be so remote to basic office tools.
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by greatdrivew June 11, 2008 10:09 PM PDT
Unlike Germany & Japan, I don''t believe there will be peace in Iraq until US forces have withdrawn. Until that happens, forces in the region will constantly agitate the US military. It''s a war of attrution, and it''s one we can no longer afford. Maybe *** Cheney can afford to pay for it all?!

But seriously, the truly scary part here is that McCain doesn''t see the difference between Iraq and Germany. And his stregnths are supposed to be foreign policy and security?

This is simply further proof, that as it pertains to his single issue [the Iraq War], McCain is incompetent.

Heaven forbid he be elected!!
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by smirk5 June 11, 2008 10:16 PM PDT
Iraq can be like Germany or South Korea according to McCain. Did anyone tell McCain about Sunnis and Shia? Germany and Korea don''t have Sunnis and Shia. When will McCain learn that Iraq can never be like Germany or Korea in terms of an occupation? Someone should show him a computer and teach him about the world.
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by smirk5 June 11, 2008 10:35 PM PDT
RUSSERT: The fact is you are different than George Bush.

SEN. McCAIN: No. No. I%u2013the fact is that I%u2019m different but the fact is that I have agreed with President Bush far more than I have disagreed. And on the transcendent issues, the most important issues of our day, I%u2019ve been totally in agreement and support of President Bush.
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by shurch4truth June 11, 2008 10:55 PM PDT
"We could be in Iraq for 100 years, that would be OK with me"

John McCain
Running for US President
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by lottobee June 11, 2008 10:58 PM PDT
Parsing words, parsing words. Is that all you got Obamaniks. Guess there was nothing big to talk about today. McCain was a fighter pilot and flew an A4E Skyhawk. Hmmm, wonder if that''s as complicated as a computer. You people are pathetic. This guy is an American Patriot and NO-bama couldn''t even make it as an attorney but he''s real good at BS and reading speeches. You''d rather worship the jerk who promises you the world and then reneges. Wake up from your dream and see the guy who is leveling with you. But that''s the way of the American voter. You always choose the loser who lies to you. That''s how we ended up with Bush.
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by shurch4truth June 11, 2008 11:01 PM PDT
But seriously, the truly scary part here is that McCain doesn''''t see the difference between Iraq and Germany. And his stregnths are supposed to be foreign policy and security?

This is simply further proof, that as it pertains to his single issue [the Iraq War], McCain is incompetent.

Heaven forbid he be elected!!

Posted by GreatDriveW at 10:09 PM : Jun 11, 2008


...well, John McCain was a great Warrior but a President he is not. He is stuggling and it''s sad to see him doing a town meeting, he looks like he''s forcing it.
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by rowdywicca June 11, 2008 11:57 PM PDT
Any numb nuts knows it''''s more important right now to do the best they can to keep the soldiers safe!

They''''re not coming home anytime soon, I don''''t care how many FAKE promises Barak Pinko Obama makes!

The man plans an already proven failed strategy of TALK! What''''s the ******* going to do when the TALK runs out???

Fact is, he hasn''''t a clue, and we''''ll have already been there five more years while he yaps his jaws for NOTHING!


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by whitepicks2 June 12, 2008 1:06 AM PDT
McCain had a *** Cheney moment.

When asked how that assessment comports with recent polls that show about two-thirds of Americans say the fight in Iraq is not worth it, Cheney replied, ''So?''

Let''s not give McCain the chance to say, ''So?'' when asked about Iran.

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by trbundro1277 June 12, 2008 2:52 AM PDT
Parsing words, parsing words. Is that all you got Obamaniks. Guess there was nothing big to talk about today. McCain was a fighter pilot and flew an A4E Skyhawk. Hmmm, wonder if that''''s as complicated as a computer. You people are pathetic. This guy is an American Patriot and NO-bama couldn''''t even make it as an attorney but he''''s real good at BS and reading speeches. You''''d rather worship the jerk who promises you the world and then reneges. Wake up from your dream and see the guy who is leveling with you. But that''''s the way of the American voter. You always choose the loser who lies to you. That''''s how we ended up with Bush. Posted by lottobee at 10:58 PM : Jun 11, 2008
*** I''d rather Have Obama make me promies of a better America, rather than Juan Amnesty Mccain telling me that he wants to let over 12 million illegal immigrants get amnesty and take our blue collar jobs from us! Atleast Obama offers hope. Mccain offers us more of Bush''s failed policy ideas! Why would anyone want more of Bush''s horrible economic ideas? When is Bush/Mccain going to release proof of tax cuts for the extremely wealthy creating jobs? Those tax cuts don''t create jobs, if so, then show us!!!!!
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by trbundro1277 June 12, 2008 2:55 AM PDT
...well, John McCain was a great Warrior but a President he is not. He is stuggling and it''''s sad to see him doing a town meeting, he looks like he''''s forcing it.
Posted by SHURCH4Truth at 11:01 PM : Jun 11, 2008
*** yeah... all we would get from Mccain would be another bush, that has military experience, dear god would we be in trouble if he got elected. Please don''t let rich criminals keep power. Vote Democrat this November!
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by trbundro1277 June 12, 2008 2:58 AM PDT
Fact is, he hasn''''''''t a clue, and we''''''''ll have already been there five more years while he yaps his jaws for NOTHING!
Posted by RowdyWicca at 11:57 PM : Jun 11, 2008
*** I''d rather have a Democratic president while we are there for 5 or more years, because atleast then the wealthiest of Americans will pay their fair share of taxes, unlike how they have gotten away with everything under bush. If tax cuts for the wealthiest of Americans really creates jobs, then why can''t the republican''s release figures proving so? Why? Because they can''t! Those tax cuts are just to pay back the people that paid their campaign!
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by abbe91 June 12, 2008 3:42 AM PDT
"...well, John McCain was a great Warrior but a President he is not. He is stuggling and it''''s sad to see him doing a town meeting, he looks like he''''s forcing it.

Posted by SHURCH4Truth at 11:01 PM : Jun 11, 2008"

Excuse me but what makes you say that McCain was a great warrior ?
I''m still very curious to see what great he achieved when being in the army.
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by abbe91 June 12, 2008 3:47 AM PDT
"McCain was a fighter pilot and flew an A4E Skyhawk.
Posted by lottobee at 10:58 PM : Jun 11, 2008"

Actually, he flew more than one. He actually trashed five of them, only one in combat.
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by abbe91 June 12, 2008 3:52 AM PDT
i guess the keating five is not important either?

Posted by RGRXX175 at 04:27 PM : Jun 11, 2008

Nor the bombing of the USS Forrestal ?
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by mcvet June 12, 2008 6:58 AM PDT





Posted by lottobee at 10:58 PM : Jun 11, 2008

Excuse me but your swastika is showing!! Because this OLD TIRED Senator served in the military no more makes him capable of leading this nation than a frog does of laying eggs! This is also NOT "parsing words". This IS about putting a man who seem to lack the basic knowledge of what it''s like to actually BE on the ground in Combat and someone who seems willing to keep our troops IN that combat unending. I saw a lot like him in the Marine Corps... they LOVE the idea of war, they LOVE the idea of being in command of a War. This Old Man can NOT wait to get his chubby little hands on the worlds most lethal military and there is NO doubt about that. Not a good choice to lead a nation that''s supposed to be guided by CIVILIAN Government. SIEG HEIL BUSH By the way the "A-4" IS NOT a fighter jet....
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by mcvet June 12, 2008 7:04 AM PDT
Any numb nuts knows it''''''''s more important right now to do the best they can to keep the soldiers safe!

They''''''''re not coming home anytime soon, I don''''''''t care how many FAKE promises Barak Pinko Obama makes!

The man plans an already proven failed strategy of TALK! What''''''''s the ******* going to do when the TALK runs out???

Fact is, he hasn''''''''t a clue, and we''''''''ll have already been there five more years while he yaps his jaws for NOTHING!


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Posted by RowdyWicca at 11:57 PM : Jun 11, 2008
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Can YOU put away the hood and sheet for a few minutes and consentrate swastika breath?? This isn''t about Obama and YOU attacking him about this shows how bigoted and selfish you are. This is about a man who seems to lack the ability to retain basic knowledge about the situation at hand and the conditions our military is serving under. They are KILLING themselves in RECORD numbers. They have RECORD Numbers coming home mentally unstable. Now we have someone who wants to lead this nation telling us all that it''s "Not too Important" when they come home. Now Sparky, even in the land of the burning cross, that''s a BIGGIE! Okay you can put your hood and sheet back on now. Ready?? SIEG HEIL GRAND WIZARD!!
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by hp32970c June 12, 2008 7:51 AM PDT
McCain loves that no casualty bull but does he ever say how he plans on getting to the point of no casualties!!!!! Hello?????? Saying it won''t make it so. Maybe we should really throw him for a loop and re-phrase the question..How long will it take before there are no casualties in Iraq???? Oh, um uh gee...well it''s not too important to answer that now....I need a nap....
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by rfgtile June 12, 2008 8:41 AM PDT
McCain is getting to be embarassing. It''s not just his age.....he just isn''t real smart. Let me re-state that....he is almost dull normal.
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by kykate1 June 12, 2008 8:53 AM PDT
A real warrior? Bull --McCain ADMITS, both in an interview in the May 14, 1973, issue of U S News & World Report and in his autobiography Faith of My Fathers that, being unhappy with the fact that his captors weren''t giving him medical treatment after only four days in custody, he OFFERED to provide the military information which they requested in return for that treatment. That, and not the identity of his father, was why his captors took him to the hospital for treatment. Then, in the hospital, he gave the Vietnamese valid, valuable, current, pertinent military information (the name of his ship, his squadron designation and his target) in return for treatment.

Let''s be blunt. Through those actions, McCain betrayed the oath he took when joining the military (and, as a result, he betrayed his country, his country''s Navy, his ship and his shipmates) for personal gain.

Hero? Simply surviving by selling out your commrades does not a hero make.
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by jack3213 June 12, 2008 9:12 AM PDT
What is Not SO GOOD- Reasons NOT to vote for Obama:

Obama''s visit to Africa ''06
(Where are the transcripts of the speeches
he gave here? Campaigning for Odinga?
Wouldn''t it be great to be able to read these?
Do the people of the State of Illinois know
about Obama''s radical background?)

Barack''s father, Muslim, hard-drinker,
Was married three times, attended
Harvard and returned to Kenya.
Obama claims he was an atheist,
But he was raised Muslim and was
Given a Muslim burial at Barack''s
family''s request.

Barack has stated his support for Luo
Raila Odinga (Opposition Leader in
Kenya who signed a ''Shariah pact''
With Muslims and claims to be Obama''s
cousin) and is married to Ida Odinga.
They have four children - two sons and
two daughters. His oldest son, Fidel, is
named after Fidel Castro.

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