McCain Charged With Hypocrisy Over Hamas Comments
Former Clinton State Department official James Rubin says John McCain is a hypocrite.
Rubin interviewed McCain two years ago for Sky News, a British network. At that interview, Rubin writes in today's Washington Post, he asked this of the presumptive GOP nominee: "Do you think that American diplomats should be operating the way they have in the past, working with the Palestinian government if Hamas is now in charge?"
Here, per Rubin's column, is McCain's answer: "They're the government; sooner or later we are going to have to deal with them, one way or another, and I understand why this administration and previous administrations had such antipathy towards Hamas because of their dedication to violence and the things that they not only espouse but practice, so . . . but it's a new reality in the Middle East. I think the lesson is people want security and a decent life and decent future, that they want democracy. Fatah was not giving them that."
McCain now criticizes Democratic frontrunner Barack Obama for his professed willingness to negotiate with so-called "rogue" leaders like Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, suggesting it reflects a "naiveté and inexperience and lack of judgment." In response to Rubin's column noting McCain's apparent willingness to negotiate with the militant Palestinian group, the McCain campaign released this statement, from spokesman Tucker Bounds:
“There should be no confusion, John McCain has always believed that serious engagement would require mandatory conditions and Hamas must change itself fundamentally – renounce violence, abandon its goal of eradicating Israel and accept a two state solution. John McCain’s position is clear and has always been clear, the President of the United States should not unconditionally meet with leaders of Iran, Hamas or Hezbollah. Barack Obama has made his position equally clear, and has pledged to meet unconditionally with Iran’s leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the leaders of other rogue regimes, which shows incredibly dangerous and weak judgment.”
The Rubin column comes on the heals of President Bush's comment, before the Israel Knesset, that "Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along." The president compared people who want to sit down with rogue leaders to those who wanted to engage in talks with Nazis in 1939, citing "the false comfort of appeasement." Though he did not mention Obama or other Democrats by name, the Democratic frontrunner and other Democrats responded to the comments with outrage.
In an interview with CNN quoted by the Associated Press, Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Joe Biden, a former Democratic presidential candidate, suggested that the Bush administration is itself engaged in hypocrisy on the issue, having negotiated with leaders in North Korea and Libya.
"This is pure hypocrisy, but the worst part about it is, think how it falls on the ears in capitals of Europe and the rest of the world and Toyko when the president of the United States says under no condition will we talk to anybody like that, and John McCain, the nominee for the Republican Party, who may very well be president of the United States, is saying the same thing," Biden said.
Rubin interviewed McCain two years ago for Sky News, a British network. At that interview, Rubin writes in today's Washington Post, he asked this of the presumptive GOP nominee: "Do you think that American diplomats should be operating the way they have in the past, working with the Palestinian government if Hamas is now in charge?"
Here, per Rubin's column, is McCain's answer: "They're the government; sooner or later we are going to have to deal with them, one way or another, and I understand why this administration and previous administrations had such antipathy towards Hamas because of their dedication to violence and the things that they not only espouse but practice, so . . . but it's a new reality in the Middle East. I think the lesson is people want security and a decent life and decent future, that they want democracy. Fatah was not giving them that."
McCain now criticizes Democratic frontrunner Barack Obama for his professed willingness to negotiate with so-called "rogue" leaders like Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, suggesting it reflects a "naiveté and inexperience and lack of judgment." In response to Rubin's column noting McCain's apparent willingness to negotiate with the militant Palestinian group, the McCain campaign released this statement, from spokesman Tucker Bounds:
“There should be no confusion, John McCain has always believed that serious engagement would require mandatory conditions and Hamas must change itself fundamentally – renounce violence, abandon its goal of eradicating Israel and accept a two state solution. John McCain’s position is clear and has always been clear, the President of the United States should not unconditionally meet with leaders of Iran, Hamas or Hezbollah. Barack Obama has made his position equally clear, and has pledged to meet unconditionally with Iran’s leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the leaders of other rogue regimes, which shows incredibly dangerous and weak judgment.”
The Rubin column comes on the heals of President Bush's comment, before the Israel Knesset, that "Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along." The president compared people who want to sit down with rogue leaders to those who wanted to engage in talks with Nazis in 1939, citing "the false comfort of appeasement." Though he did not mention Obama or other Democrats by name, the Democratic frontrunner and other Democrats responded to the comments with outrage.
In an interview with CNN quoted by the Associated Press, Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Joe Biden, a former Democratic presidential candidate, suggested that the Bush administration is itself engaged in hypocrisy on the issue, having negotiated with leaders in North Korea and Libya.
"This is pure hypocrisy, but the worst part about it is, think how it falls on the ears in capitals of Europe and the rest of the world and Toyko when the president of the United States says under no condition will we talk to anybody like that, and John McCain, the nominee for the Republican Party, who may very well be president of the United States, is saying the same thing," Biden said.
How I would LOVE to see some reporter going back to some obscure interview from two years ago to catch all the democrats'' flip-flops. Never will, though.
This is a perfect example of bias in the LAMEstream media!
REV.WRIGHT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE WRONG ONE HERE?YEAH...RIGHT.THIS IS JUST WHY THEY WANT TO AMPLIFY HIS COMMENTS AND MAKE THEM OUT TO BE NEGATIVE
---WATCH THIS VIDEO AND SEE WHO THEY ARE REALLY TRULY DESCRIBING!
...AND THE NEWS WANTS TO FOCUS ON A "SWEETIE" REMARK?
-GO TO...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
WXZbIGJrDkg
IT''''''''S UNDER "JOHN MCCAINS SPIRITUAL GUIDE" ON YOUTUBE.COM
HOW ABOUT 2013 X 10 MORE LIVES BEING TAKEN BY THEN!
Interviewers and others have seen that when you push him on his so-called budget oversight, staff harangues, religious connections, etc, you will see his true colors.
BO and his surrogates could have moved on. They could have taken the high road and used Bush''s recent statement, against appeasement of Hitler types, as a platform for finding common ground. Instead, they chose to play the old victim card--"poor BO is under attack." I guess they never heard the adage: if the shoe fits wear it. By crying out they just proved the point.
Rubin has written an op-ed in Friday''s Washington Post about his exchange with McCain, and The Huffington Post has obtained exclusive video
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/15/exclusive-video-mccain-wa_n_102031.html
Rubin is just trying to peddle journalism much like all the other journalist hypocrits.
I hate to bring bad news, but even the messiah, Obama, is a hypocrit.
SURE... THEN WE WILL ALL BE SNUG AND COMFY IN ENDURING ARMS OF THE OBAMA DRAMA. THOSE BAD PEOPLE WON''T GET US BECAUSE OBAMA''S RIGHTEOUSNESS IS ON OUR SIDE. GAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!
We have had 60 years of experimenting about the Israeli- Palestinian struggle. The region would need help before we will be dragged into a World War III.
No one can reject the fact that creation of Israel on the land of Arabic nations has created tremendous political and economical problems for the United States. One solution would be for Israel joining us as a member of the Unites States%u2019 Common Wealth.
We are already supporting Israel economically, politically and by sharing intelligence and military hardware. In addition, some Israeli Americans with both Israeli and American citizenships serve in the Israeli Armed Forces.
The Common Wealth should include all of the Palestinians.
Would really two nation model for Palestinian and Israeli work in the future? Many experts on the Middle Eastern politics and people would suggest that a two state solution in not viable model. We have struggled with it for nearly 60 years.
Should we be looking at the region as a Federal States with one government elected by all of the people? This model may have a much better chance of survival as a solution for both Israeli and Arabs.
We have been forced into one box by the Israeli Lobby; we need to look outside of this box. We can%u2019t fight wars after wars to support a non-working model of a two state solution.
Wow! An actual posting of relative sanity. It is refreshing to listen to your points, instead hynotised wining Obama followers.
Negotiating with Arabs or Persions is not an option. Their idea of a negotiation is SURRENDER then have your head lopped on TV.
The reason Arabs and Persion do not simply take Israel by shear dominating force is due to Israel''s "Never Again" policy. That means if Israel is over run by Arabs and Persions one of the largest suicide spectacles in history of mankind would transpire leaving ALL of the Middle East inhabitants incinerated in the twinkling of your eye. For the rest of us Earth loving souls Nuclear Winter would engulf us and we would gradually all die.
Arabs and Persion do not consider this mass suicide an option because their dreams of a Global Calaphate of Islam would never take place.
Hope this obvious reality point adds to your understanding of the NO WIN SENARIO in ISRAEL.
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Should we be looking at the region as a Federal States with one government elected by all of the people? This model may have a much better chance of survival as a solution for both Israeli and Arabs. "
This idea might be realistic someday but not now.
Do not you see people pretty much vote on their color or religion?
By the end of the campaign his *** is going to full of bite marks.
Posted by jim_and_z at 01:54 PM : May 16, 2008
And the last we have seen, John McCain is wearing those shoes...
and they''re doing a pretty good job of it.
The stuff that Obama admitted to in the two books he
wrote is enough to lose him the election. But has
anyone heard anything about either of these writings
by a major National Television Station????
NO! Because they are setting on it until Hillary is
out of the picture and Obama will lose the Presidency
by the largest margine yet. And anyone who can''''''''t
see that and continues to believe otherwise after
reading those two books are being FOOLISH!!!!
Attention: White Women make up the Majority in America & Womenin General.
Then Lesbian Women, Account also for White Gay Male Demographic.
Then Independents, Democrat & Republican Moderates.
Note: Most Women are Pro-Choice, Regardless of Race or Political Persuasion.
& People who Truly Believe & Practice the Seperation of Church & State & Freedom of Speech and Truly this Principle.
Independent Republicans, Now Called Swing Voters. Then the Afro American, The Latino & Asian Demographic, & Pacific Islanders.
American Youth Demographic Ages 18-45 White, Black, Brown, Yellow..
Prefer Obama and Your Mass Scare Tactics have yet to Work !
(R)McCain Killer #1: Racist White Men, Underestimating a (Woman`s Right To ..Choose)
Note: Someone Say.. Pro-Choice !
(R) McCain Killer #2: American Mothers & Fathers wanting their Loved Ones Back Home..
Right Now !!
(R) McCain Killer #3: McCain`s Age (71) !
(R) McCain Killer #4: Racist White Males, Assuming that their Girl Friend or their Wife wil Vote for McCain, like them, when a Woman is just Like Pro-Choice...
Very Private & Personal Matter & None Of My Boy Friend`s or Husband`s Business !!
(R) McCain Killer #5: Racist White Men, Assuming their Buddies Feel the SAME as they do, about Obama, when they Really Don`t.
Note: CNN said that some people in (NC) Went to Bed Surprised, that Obama WON (40% of The White Vote) and Won (NC) by a Landslide, just Like (Oregon) this coming Tuseday.
Most International Countries Favor Obama...
Canada Loves Obama
Spain Loves Obama
London England Loves Obama
Ireland Loves Obama
Italy Loves Obama
France Loves Obama
Japan Loves Obama
Korea Loves Obama
Portual Loves Obama
New Zealand Loves Obama
Germant Loves Obama
Russia Loves Obama
China Loves Obama
Many Many other Foreign Countries Around the Globe ...
Loves Obama !!
I Guess they are also (Hamas)
A!! Holes !!!
The (911 Plane Attacks) Involved (Saudi Arabians) & Dubai the (United Arab Emirates) and President Bush & Cheney & this Government & Corporate America Cozies up to BOTH these NATIONS....
Enjoy Seeing Roger Federer Participate in the Dubai Pro Tennis Championship & Tiger Woods and other Golf Pro`s Participate in the Dubai Classic, the (UAE & Corporate America, call it ''Dessert Classic'' !!!
President Bush Pushed through and was Assisted by Bill Clinton, the (Dubai Ports Deal) and Threatened to VETO any actions by Congress or the Senate to Hinder the Deal from going forward.
The (UAE) now Own our Major US Ports, in New York, New Jersey, Miami and other locals as well.
The Bush-Cheney Administration & Fmr. President Clinton has Already ''Buddied Up'' and made MIllions with these 2 Arab Nations and thats why Obama will WIN such a Debate.
A!! Hole !!
The U.S. military currently pays about $300 a month to each of the 90,000 Sons of Iraq security personnel, but officials say they hope the Iraqi government will take over the contracts by the end of the year. The original plan was for the overwhelmingly Sunni Sons of Iraq to be incorporated into the Iraqi Security Forces, but the Shiite-majority government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has resisted hiring them.
More recently, the U.S. command has said that only about 20,000 should be added to the security forces %u2014 nearly all of them in Sunni-dominated Anbar province.
Sen McCain supports the Surge in Iraq, including the payment to the Sons of Iraq(Sunni Terrorists who killed US Soldiers)sort oy paying the terrorists not to fight against the US.
Sen McCain is lying, hypocritacal Appeaser. for supporting the monthly payments of over $30 million to terrorists.
Don%u2019t talk to terrorists, just pay them! Is McCain and Bush%u2019s foreign policy claim to fame!
Next issue for debate! Economics anyone!
Dems08
What President and his Family have an over 20 year Relationship...
Ans: The Bush Family..thats Who and they STILL DO !!!
Who gathered up and Flew the Bin Laden Family Members, 1st class, with FBI Approval, when they could''ve Held them, until Bin Laden''s Surrender Home Safely, without
The (911 Plane Attacks) Involved (Saudi Arabians) & Dubai the (United Arab Emirates) and President Bush & Cheney & this Government & Corporate America Cozies up to BOTH these NATIONS....
Enjoy Seeing Roger Federer Participate in the Dubai Pro Tennis Championship & Tiger Woods and other Golf Pro`s Participate in the Dubai Classic, the (UAE & Corporate America, call it ''''Dessert Classic'''' !!!
President Bush Pushed through and was Assisted by Bill Clinton, the (Dubai Ports Deal) and Threatened to VETO any actions by Congress or the Senate to Hinder the Deal from going forward.
The (UAE) now Own our Major US Ports, in New York, New Jersey, Miami and other locals as well.
The Bush-Cheney Administration & Fmr. President Clinton has Already ''''Buddied Up'''' and made MIllions with these 2 Arab Nations and thats why Obama will WIN such a Debate.
A!! Hole !!
What President and his Family have an over 20 year Relationship...
Who gathered up and Flew the Bin Laden Family Members,Home Safely, 1st Class, with FBI Approval, when they could''ve Held them Indifinitely, until Osama Bin Laden''s Surrender !
Answer: The Bush Family..
Thats Who and they STILL DO !!!
The (911 Plane Attacks) Involved (Saudi Arabians) & Dubai the (United Arab Emirates) and President Bush & Cheney & this Government & Corporate America Cozies up to BOTH these NATIONS....
Enjoy Seeing Roger Federer Participate in the Dubai Pro Tennis Championship & Tiger Woods and other Golf Pro`s Participate in the Dubai Classic, the (UAE & Corporate America, call it ''Dessert Classic'' !
President Bush Pushed through and was Assisted by Bill Clinton, the (Dubai Ports Deal) and Threatened to VETO any actions by Congress or the Senate to Hinder the Deal from going forward.
The (UAE) now Own our Major US Ports, in New York, New Jersey, Miami and other locals as well.
The Bush-Cheney Administration & Fmr. President Clinton has Already ''Buddied Up'' and made MIllions with these 2 Arab Nations and thats why Obama will WIN such a Debate.
A!! Hole !!
Thank God for the wisdom of our forefathers.
If Barack Obama didn%u2019t know about Abunimah%u2019s writings (and Abunimah says he did), the same as his claims of being unaware of Reverend Wright%u2019s remarks after 20 years, then Obama is not competent to be our President. Abunimah likes to lie and claim Al Awda has nothing to do with the ISM or Electronic Intifada, though plenty of evidence exists on the website the homepage at www.StoptheISM.com showing the contrary.
But Obama%u2019s association with the ISM through his church and lobbying in Chicago goes even deeper than just his past links to Al Awda and Ali Abunimah. His pastor, Jeremiah Wright, and the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, are both equally involved with the ISM.
The real question is, do we want a man in the White House who will regularly lend his ear to George Bush and all the Corporate lobbyists in Washington.
Posted by S_Temper at 02:51 AM : May 18, 2008
Wow - maybe Petraeus can give Obama some tips on art of appeasing.
Have a question though - What do you think those Iraqi Sunnis would do if Petraeus didn''t give them the old Greenback?
And if the Petraeus appeasement is working when will the Iraqi Sunnis be merged with the Iraqi Security Forces ?
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Posted by realpatriot1 at 08:16 PM : May 18, 2008
Bush will be GONE! If McCain wins, he''s president and only has to listen to HIS advisors. And even should Obama win, the lobbyists will still be in Washington, cuz how else is Obama going to pay back all those lobbyists working on is campaign?
What''s he going to do? Tell 47 lobbyists on his campain team they can no longer lobby?
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by realpatriot1
May 19, 2008 6:10 AM PDT
- McCain was for meeting with Hamas before he was against it. He was against the Bush tax cuts before he was for them.
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See all 42 CommentsMcCain standas for everything and nothing at the same time.
We need a President who has the guts and character to stick to their principles.