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April 28, 2008 3:18 PM

Poll: Clinton Fares Better Than Obama In Match Up With McCain

The campaigns of Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama have been arguing over which candidate is more likely to beat presumptive GOP nominee John McCain in November.

The Clinton campaign, in particular, has argued that the former first lady is the more electable Democrat, an argument the campaign hopes will convince uncommitted superdelegates to back Clinton even if she goes into the party's convention with fewer pledged delegates than her rival, as is likely.

Now the Clinton camp has a fresh piece of evidence to argue its point: A poll out today from the Associated Press-Ipsos found that in head-to-head match ups with McCain, Clinton leads 50 percent to 41 percent. Obama led McCain as well, but by a smaller margin, 46 percent to 44 percent – a virtual tie. Three weeks ago, Clinton led McCain by three points in the poll, and McCain and Obama were tied at 45 percent.

The latest Gallup tracking poll, meanwhile, shows Clinton and Obama in a virtual tie among Democratic and Democratic leaning voters. And a Newsweek poll released over the weekend shows Obama leading Clinton 46 percent to 38 percent. (Obama led Clinton by 19 points in the same poll a week earlier.) Newsweek found that both candidates have a three point edge over McCain in a head-to-head match up.
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by April 28, 2008 4:29 PM PDT
The Clintons would create partisan gridlock because of on-going shenanigans --
** Clinton Foundation gets $131 million for Bill''s public declaration for Kazakhstan''s leader WHILE Hillary attacks their human rights record
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html?ex=1359435600&en=33a4d96a239655bf&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

** Bill Clinton get $800,000 from Columbian government, yet Hillary attacks Obama on free-trade
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/what-a-story-candidate-pe_b_96052.html

** Bill and Hillary fraud trial (in OCT ''08) for taking Ron Paul''s money
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq8aopATYyw

** Hillary votes against Gun rights but attacks Obama on small town gun comment
July 13, 2006 Hillary voted against amendment 4615 to H.R. 5441
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00202

** Hillary has never signed the American Freedom Pledge, Barrack has
http://www.americanfreedomcampaign.org/

** Hillary''s healthcare mandates would cause prices to skyrocket initially as 47 million new insured come on-board. It would be years before enough supply caught up and reduced prices.

** Rendell praises Farrakhan, yet Hillary attack Obama for being praised by F.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXum_-8I1TA&eurl=http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video_log/2008/04/rendell_praised_farrakhan.html
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by April 28, 2008 4:31 PM PDT
In 12 years of elected office, Obama got things done by crossing the isle and building trust --
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/07/29/us/politics/20070730_OBAMA_GRAPHIC.html
From the US Senate --
**the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law),
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
**The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
**The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more.
** Honest Leadership and Open Govt. Act (became law)
** Sponsorship with John McCain (R-AZ) of a climate change bill to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by two-thirds by 2050
** joined Chuck Hagel (R-NE) in introducing legislation to reduce risks of nuclear terrorism (partial passage)
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by ladyesq1 April 28, 2008 4:36 PM PDT
Obama is such a passive, pandering, pompous jack---. I for one will never feel safe under an Obama presidency. He''s naive and inexperienced and that is the LAST thing we need after 8 yrs of Bush. His ideas about meeting w/ foreign enemies scare the daylights out of me. Has it ever dawned on him that there may have been a good reason that over 200 years worth of American Presidents have NOT met with our enemies. Helllooo...its not rocket science...we can''t trust them. Does he really think they are going to live up to a deal they might make at one of these "meetings". I will vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination....McCain may break the bank, but at least I''ll feel safe when I lay my head down at night.

Hillary...or McCain. NO OTHER WAY!
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by rrggrrgg April 28, 2008 4:45 PM PDT
Obama panders just like McCain, Clinton and the rest.

He told us about plans to change nafta but uses a back channel to tell Canada he doesn''t mean it. This weekend Wright plainly said that Obama says certain things only because he''s a politician, and not that he means it.

Sorry I don''t see how this is any kind of "change" he claims he''ll bring, or even what he wants to do.
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by dnsallday April 28, 2008 4:57 PM PDT
Why was the poll meaningless to Clinton''s Campaign when she was behind?
I think that when Obama is President he needs to add something to his education plan: Classes on Critical Thinking for the newsmen and pundits.
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by javalation April 28, 2008 5:33 PM PDT
Obama should challenge Clinton to a game of HORSE to decide Indiana and a game of cut-throat to decide North Carolina. That way each of them have an activity at which they''ve already demonstrated proficiency.
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by Po Win April 28, 2008 5:40 PM PDT
Those who purport that the frontrunner will unite people have already demonstrated that the frontrunner will unite no one except perhaps the myopic misanthropists who, most likely, will be in a seething cauldron of woeful, broken promises teeming with scintillating rhetoric. Share this with the superdelegates.
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by jack3213 April 28, 2008 5:43 PM PDT
EXATLY POWWIN1- NO MATTER WHO WINS ON THE DEM SIDE- THEY BOTH LOSE- THE MEDIA KEEPS TRYING TO PROMOTE ONE AGAINST THE OTHER- SOME FALL FOR IT- OTHERS KNOW BETTER-
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by jack3213 April 28, 2008 5:50 PM PDT
CERTAINLY ''WRIGHT'' IS WRONG- BUT CLINTON IS MORE WRONG THAN ''WRIGHT.''

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by lorinkundert April 28, 2008 5:55 PM PDT
I''ve had these poll people call me, and they only ask very narrow questions to get the results they want, what they don''t ask is who would you vote for in an election between Hillary and McCain. People are answering based on who they support now rather than who they would support after the nomination.
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by nancy00-2009 April 28, 2008 5:59 PM PDT
Perhaps those polled think that Obama is weaker because of the nasty ad running in N. Carolina. They probably don''t realise that the Republicans are doing that because they are afraid of running against Obama. My gosh, it''s been noted everywhere. They feel safer going against Hillary...hence Rush Limbaugh''s request. I am so impressed by the stations in N. Carolina who are refusing to run the ad. Thank God for the people who have ethics and stand up for what is morally right.
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by philly1550 April 28, 2008 6:04 PM PDT

The polls show now that more people beleive Hillary is stronger against McCain..and Hillary will be the next Presiedent!
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by nancy00-2009 April 28, 2008 6:04 PM PDT
hopeful08

Thanks for being there. I appreciate the fact that you can be counted on for commenting on the side of truth. On any site where I''ve run into you, you''ve been an excellent poster. Thank you.
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by philly1550 April 28, 2008 6:07 PM PDT
I for one will never feel safe under an Obama presidency. He''''s naive and inexperienced and that is the LAST thing we need after 8 yrs of Bush. His ideas about meeting w/ foreign enemies scare the daylights out of me.
I will vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination....McCain may break the bank, but at least I''''ll feel safe when I lay my head down at night.

Hillary...or McCain. NO OTHER WAY!


Posted by ladyesq1 at 04:36 PM : Apr 28, 2008

I agree with that.
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by popstom1 April 28, 2008 6:09 PM PDT
As more and more comes to light
about obama the more he sinks
and now Rev.Wright has add a lot
of weight
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by kansas1946 April 28, 2008 6:13 PM PDT
I am not registered with either major political party or any party. If I wanted to be a mean and hateful person, I would register as a Republican. If I wanted to be an idiot, I would register as a Democrat. The Democrats by their waffling, indecisive, flip-flopping, will give John McCain the Whitehouse. At this point, they deserve to lose it.
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by Po Win April 28, 2008 6:29 PM PDT
Brimming with unabashed arrogance and a numerical argument that is clearly flawed, Senator Clinton has been asked to withdraw regardless that it has been repeatedly said that neither candidate can accrue enough pledged delegates to win the nomination. That "Clinton and Obama remain statistically tied with John McCain in matchups" further repudiates Leahy''s rationale, arguments rife with cynicism, Richardson''s hubris, and Ms. Pelosi''s posturing which is helping the GOP exponentially, it''s sad. Silence can be a good thing, especially if it''s Floridians who truly need to be silenced.
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by kansas1946 April 28, 2008 6:36 PM PDT
LOL. With the baggage Hillary is carrying, and her ability to fire up the right-wing to get out and vote against her, don''t make me laugh. The Democratic party will hand the presidency to John McCain with Hillary as the candidate.
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by Po Win April 28, 2008 6:48 PM PDT

Reverend Wright embedded threads of truth in a canvass of falsehoods: at one moment he states outright that he is not divisive or polarizing then he launches into thunderous, irreverent gestures and harsh critique of classical music, opera, psychiatry, pharmacology, JFK''s and Ted Kennedy''s Irish-American accents, and rationalizes this by making his thesis an imaginary cognitive difference between blacks and whites that elucidate his tangential truisms.

He speaks of embracing Change and transformation to that of respect and kindness while being irreverent of the late JFK, Lyndon Johnson and the above-mentioned; he speaks conceptually of embracing difference while he treads the threshold of a bitter diatribe of Eurocentrist thought, music, language and worship.

How does he do so? Leaping from left and right brain hemispheres to oral traditions of Hebrew teachings, he feigns authority and makes bold statements from non-existent sources adding new fields of knowledge as he thunders on.

Demarcating himself as a preacher not a politician or political analyst, he exclaims that his speech is not about the candidacies of Senators McCain, Clinton and Obama. Jeremiah Wright continuously makes an affirmation of a positive, inevitable Change to come; not coincidentally, he finally brings his speech of Change to a climax of Yes We Can make this Change as an obvious endorsement of Senator Obama and then he humbly makes a plug for his book which is to emerge sometime in 2008.
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by nsubugamamba April 28, 2008 6:51 PM PDT
I believe that this shift in polling reflects the resentment that many "on the fence" supporters felt when Sen. McCain unfairly chastised the North Carolina Republicans for running a Rev. Wright ad to aid local elections. They will probably come back if Sen. McCain recognizes that he can''t insult the folks that plan to vote for him.
I also believe that Sen. Obama will ultimately collapse under the pressure of the Blackwell money laundering allegations (see contrariancommentary.blogspot.com), Rev. Wright, William Ayers, Rezko, Larry Sinclair, and whatever else comes up now that the press is beginning to look.
In any event, it should be entertaining.
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by nsubugamamba April 28, 2008 6:53 PM PDT
I believe that this shift in polling reflects the resentment that many "on the fence" supporters felt when Sen. McCain unfairly chastised the North Carolina Republicans for running a Rev. Wright ad to aid local elections. They will probably come back if Sen. McCain recognizes that he can''t insult the folks that plan to vote for him.
I also believe that Sen. Obama will ultimately collapse under the pressure of the Blackwell money laundering allegations, Rev. Wright, William Ayers, Rezko, Larry Sinclair, and whatever else comes up now that the press is beginning to look.

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by nsubugamamba April 28, 2008 6:54 PM PDT
I believe that this shift in polling reflects the resentment that many "on the fence" supporters felt when Sen. McCain unfairly chastised the North Carolina Republicans for running a Rev. Wright ad to aid local elections. They will probably come back if Sen. McCain recognizes that he can''t insult the folks that plan to vote for him.I also believe that Sen. Obama will ultimately collapse under the pressure of the Blackwell money laundering allegations, Rev. Wright, William Ayers, Rezko, Larry Sinclair, and whatever else comes up now that the press is beginning to look.

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by nsubugamamba April 28, 2008 6:55 PM PDT
I believe that this reflects the resentment that many "on the fence" supporters felt when Sen. McCain unfairly chastised the North Carolina Republicans for running a Rev. Wright ad to aid local elections. They will probably come back if Sen. McCain recognizes that he can''t insult the folks that plan to vote for him.I also believe that Sen. Obama will ultimately collapse under the pressure of the Blackwell money laundering allegations, Rev. Wright, William Ayers, Rezko, Larry Sinclair, and whatever else comes up now that the press is beginning to look.

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by nsubugamamba April 28, 2008 6:56 PM PDT
I believe that this reflects the resentment that many "on the fence" supporters felt when Sen. McCain unfairly chastised the North Carolina Republicans for running a Rev. Wright ad to aid local elections. They will probably come back if Sen. McCain recognizes that he can''t insult the folks that plan to vote for him.I also believe that Sen. Obama will ultimately collapse under the pressure of the Blackwell money laundering allegations, Rev. Wright, William Ayers, Rezko, Larry Sinclair, and whatever else comes up now that the press is beginning to look.

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by rowdytexan2 April 28, 2008 7:34 PM PDT
Of course Hillary Clinton fares better than an anti-American liar!

Core democrats will never cast a vote for Obama, nor will cross=over republicans!

Even if you put aside all his freakoid anti-American associattes, he''s still incompetent! HIs credentials NEVER matched the job he''s applied for.
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by jockh April 28, 2008 7:54 PM PDT
Hillary can never win the election against the Republicans because take a look at what she had going for her.
Hillary was the presumed nominee, had all the big donors, did not have to answer to negative campaigning, was ahead in Superdelegates, had over 20% margin in national polling, had the backing of a President, had more experience and identified more with voters. So why didn%u2019t she close the deal on Super Tuesday and why is she trailing behind an underdog newcomer like Obama?
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by jockh April 28, 2008 8:26 PM PDT
Hillary lies again.

The Federal Election Commission has just reported that her campaign debt is $15 million and not $10 million as the Clinton camp reported because she failed to list her $5 million loan among the debts.

This means that even after her new surge of fundraising, she is still $5 million in debt; but Hillary is still smiling; why? Because she knows that her $110 million fortune is nice and safe. It%u2019s the ordinary person on the street who is tricked into losing money on a campaign that is doomed to fail.

Mitt Romney put $42 million of his own money into his campaign, why doesn%u2019t Hillary show she has complete confidence in her campaign and put in some of her own millions. Why? Because she knows it%u2019s a lost cause.

Those of you who are fooled into contributing to her campaign ask yourself why she LOANS her own money but wants you to GIVE your money?
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by philly1550 April 28, 2008 8:28 PM PDT

Hillary is winning in the today''s polls...the tide is turning and is now in her favor.

Hillary will be President!
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by michael0004 April 28, 2008 8:38 PM PDT
Hillary can never win the election against the Republicans because take a look at what she had going for her.
Hillary was the presumed nominee, had all the big donors, did not have to answer to negative campaigning, was ahead in Superdelegates, had over 20% margin in national polling, had the backing of a President, had more experience and identified more with voters. So why didn%u2019t she close the deal on Super Tuesday and why is she trailing behind an underdog newcomer like Obama?



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Posted by jockh at 07:54 PM : Apr 28, 2008


Obama did not have to negative comapaign against Clinton leading up to Super Tuesday. The media was hitting her with negative and even mysognistic comments day after day and night after night while giving Obama a free ride. Is it any wonder that her popularity took a nose dive and Obama''s soared? Of course not.
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by philly1550 April 28, 2008 8:44 PM PDT
Hillary is winning in the today''''s polls...the tide is turning and is now in her favor.

Obama definitely can not win.

Hillary will be President!
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by Lai K W April 28, 2008 8:55 PM PDT
Forget about the Newsweek poll which reported the lead of OBAMA widened at the ending days while, in fact, Hillary is beating the *** out of OBAMA.

Newsweek has lost some credibility after the Pennsylvania primary, don''t you think?
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by Lai K W April 28, 2008 9:03 PM PDT
It is interesting that the OBAMA fanatics are taking the public like fools. They are still spreading the fabricated credential of OBAMA in legislation.

Factcheck and Politifact tells us ''Don''t beiieve it''. Hillary in fact out performs OBAMA in all counts.

OBAMA and company should fold the lies and their campaign and stick it to their glorious only rear.
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by peaceword April 28, 2008 9:07 PM PDT
Dear Obama, Clinton, McCain,
Why no protest by you on %u201CLIFE & DEATH REWARDS,%u201D [C] 2008 re. Sen. McCain, party in U.S. Court Case H 08-60, Texas, Ct Clerk Phone 713-250-5500 ?
McCain was saved from %u201Cretaliation of North Vietnamese Army%u201D when Plaintiff MacKenzie with U.S. 177th & 504th Military Police, II Corps, stopped two U.S. Army Fourth Infantry efforts to shoot 60 N. Vietnamese %u201CPOW%u201D in Qui Nhon, Vietnam, 1968. N.V. Army would have revenged by killing 60 U.S. POW & Naval Officer McCain, captive in Hanoi.
Sen. McCain owes captured U.S. soldiers same morality to survive capture in Iraq as McCain was provided by U.S. Military Police, which saved his life, 1968.
Plaintiff Kenneth MacKenzie, Uncle of Kristian Vasquez Menchaca, barbarically tortured to death with PFC Thomas Tucker in, Iraq, June 2006, proclaims %u201CNOTIFICATION OF $25 MILLION DOLLAR REWARD%u201D for Terrorist-captured U.S. Soldier PRISONERS OF WAR, ALIVE, Iraq & Afghanistan
Said $8 B. U.S. Case H 08-60, U.S. Court, Houston & filed in U.N. International Criminal Court, Procurator%u2019s Case OTP-CR-100/08, denounces U.S. %u201Cpremeditated%u201D $50,000-dollar %u201CLow-life%u201D Rewards causing torture deaths of captured U.S. soldier POW, Iraq, alongside U.S. mega-rewards of $25 Million on behalf of terrorists, which save Terrorists while 100% of captured U.S.%u201C$50,000-dollar %u201CPOW%u201D are murdered because no Presidential Candidate has complained.
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by SCCavie93 April 28, 2008 9:16 PM PDT
Every last HRC diehard out there FAILS to even NOTICE the FACT that Hillary can NOT even manage her campaign!! If you think the economy is bad now, imagine her trying to loan the US some of her money. Opps....Bush has done enough damage but we must never forget that HRC gave him the BLANK check that he continues to write against the future of this country.
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by SCCavie93 April 28, 2008 9:22 PM PDT
Since HRC is on a Lincoln kick, remind her of this statement, "A house divided against itself cannot stand."

Democrats have only themselves to blame if they pick the most polarizing candidate ever. She was polarizing before she started the race and she will be long after the race is over....So, we can continue to ignore those negatives and allow her and the powers that be destroy the party from within.
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by chuegevera April 28, 2008 9:41 PM PDT
If Hillary have not led Obama among democrats how could she be better positioned facing McCain. Your pole show numbers but does not make sense. Anothe rway of putting it?Who else is going to vote for Hillary the rep or the independant? I bet you ca not say yes.
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by chuegevera April 28, 2008 9:46 PM PDT
If by chance Hilary face McCain I garanty you that she will cry in poublic. Obama camp are refraining from negative campain but the GOP will not. They will bring up their snipers and test clinton experience in evading bullets not mentioning, Nafta, Colombia and the Blue Dress. American need a decent family in the white house.
I hope that your racist will at least enable you to see throught.
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by phoenixandy April 28, 2008 9:46 PM PDT
The Hillary Clintonistas are just as evil and racist as the Republicans.
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by libra127 April 28, 2008 9:48 PM PDT
The Hillary Clintonistas are just as evil and racist as the Republicans.

Posted by phoenixandy at 09:46 PM : Apr 28, 2008

BALONEY!!!

President Hillary Clinton. Get used to it.
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by libra127 April 28, 2008 9:53 PM PDT
Obama camp are refraining from negative campain but the GOP will not.

Posted by chuegevera at 09:46 PM : Apr 28, 2008

That''s a laugh. Obama''s been negative almost from the beginning. In fact Karl Rove himself is an Obama supporter. Check out the following very interesting article to see what Rove has been doing for Obama:

www.TheCityEdition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html
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by libra127 April 28, 2008 9:58 PM PDT
If Hillary have not led Obama among democrats how could she be better positioned facing McCain.

Posted by chuegevera at 09:41 PM : Apr 28, 2008

The answer is that there was essentially no vetting of Obama in the earlier days of the primary season. Network and cable newscasters were clearly biased in his favor and made mysoginistic comments about Hillary. Now alot more negative news has come out about Obama and alot of people would change their vote if they could.
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by lottobee April 28, 2008 10:07 PM PDT
Rev. Wright is like an ex-girlfriend. He feels that he has been used by Obama to climb towards the presidency because of all the connections which were available to him through the church early in their relationship. But now that Obama has achieved prominence --- it is time to discard poor old Rev. Wright --- and the now unwanted pastor is a real drag on Obama''s ambitions. So, like an ex-girlfriend, he''s going to ruin everything. It''s all very sad but it does give you a window into Obama''s master plan. From the start it was all about getting to the top and the end justifies the means. The voters who are so enthralled with Obama will be tossed a few bones to ensure his re-election, should he make it to the top. But you are all just incidental to the ultimate goal. What fools ye be. Did you believe that he was the statesman from Illinois? Nay, you are mistaken. There is a real candidate born of Illinois. See if you can figure out who that really is. I would guess that very few of you have actually done your homework.
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by blkpresident April 28, 2008 10:20 PM PDT
Jane Fonda, Patty Hearst, Hillary Clinton...

Please vote smart Indiana and North Carolina.
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by philly1550 April 28, 2008 11:18 PM PDT
Now alot more negative news has come out about Obama and alot of people would change their vote if they could.


Posted by libra127 at 09:58 PM : Apr 28, 2008

You are right. Now that people know the REAL Obama and his Anti-Americaan mentors and friends such as Wright, Ayers the terrorist bomber who invited Obama to his house to start his political career, and Rezko the middle east criminal who raised over $250,000 for Obama and helped him buy Obama''s $2 million mansion....most people who previously voted for Obama before they knew this...would NOW vote for Hillary.
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by heystudxxx April 28, 2008 11:21 PM PDT
Jesse Jackson tried it before and won in South Carolina too. But the problem you keep forgetting is BHO cannot win the big states.
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by eroosevelt08 April 29, 2008 1:45 AM PDT
Commenters seem very angry about Senator Clinton''s vote with respect to Iraq. However, we must remember Colin Powell at the United Nations with his visual aids showing all the world where Iraq had its warheads. Mr. Powell convinced me that Senator Clinton was thinking about the safety of America when she voted for the war. Her state was among those that had been attacked on 9/11. I would have voted the same way, based on the evidence. What if there had really been weapons of mass destruction? Then State Senator Obama would have been wrong.
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by eroosevelt08 April 29, 2008 1:47 AM PDT
I wish we count have a do-over of the Iowa caucus. Senator Obama has lost a lot of ground in Iowa.
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by jamlady10 April 29, 2008 2:34 AM PDT
There''s a group Republicans for Obama. They are on line . Check it out. The Republican wanted to not criticize Obama and bolster him because they were afraid Hillary could beat McCain. When they thought Obama had her beat, they started to cut him down. Hillary is the strongest candidate, most prepared and smartest of the whole bunch. Go Hillary.
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by joe1022joe April 29, 2008 6:37 AM PDT
Hillary Clinton has lied about so many things so many times that now most people don''t believe her about much of anything. She is unelectible, period.
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by abbe91 April 29, 2008 7:33 AM PDT
"Rezko the middle east criminal who raised over $250,000 for Obama and helped him buy Obama''''s $2 million mansion....most people who previously voted for Obama before they knew this...would NOW vote for Hillary.

Posted by philly1550 at 11:18 PM : Apr 28, 2008"

Rezko ? Rezko ? Oh, you mean Rove''s friend who raised 3.8 million for Bush ? that Rezko ?
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