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May 15, 2007 10:16 AM

Fox News Declines C-SPAN's Request To Carry Debate

(AP)
If you're interested in catching Fox News Channel's GOP Presidential Debate tonight, you better make a point of tuning in or TiVo'ing it. Unlike the two earlier debates hosted by MSNBC, you won't be able to find the debate anyplace else on the TV or radio dial.

Public Eye has learned that Fox News Channel refused C-SPAN's request to simulcast the debate on C-SPAN radio, as well as the opportunity to rebroadcast replays on any of the C-SPAN television channels. In the two MSNBC debates thus far, the cable network agreed to give the debates the added exposure through C-SPAN.

In an e-mail conversation, C-SPAN political editor Steve Scully informed Public Eye of Fox's stance.

As for the MSNBC and Fox Debates, only MS[NBC] has given C-SPAN rights (live on radio and tape delayed on C-SPAN.) Fox has said no to our request...and CNN's request is pending for its debates next month.
(In a follow-up to the CNN issue, Scully added that he expects a simulcast/rebroadcast agreement will be worked out.)

Why does this matter? Think about the fact that MSNBC and Fox News Channel already spend a large amount of prime time painting the other as a villianous partisan meany. Keith Olbermann regularly chastises Bill O'Reilly as the "Worst Person in the World," and O'Reilly returns the favor by calling NBC and MSNBC "unpatriotic" due to -- among other quote-unquote reasons -- NBC News decision to refer to the situation in Iraq as a 'Civil War.'

With all that back and forth, there is likely a constituency of viewers loyal to each channel who refuse to tune into their rival. So where does that leave them when it comes time to find out about the political beliefs of the Romneys and Bidens and Pauls and Gravels? (I tossed those last two in for the die-hards.)

Pre-Memorial Day 2007 is still way early for most Americans to be getting plugged into the political scene. And while making a potentially large political event property of one network or another may help your brand, it also diminishes overall public awareness. Shouldn't we be trying to expose presidential candidates to as many potential voters as possible?
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by jburdman7 May 16, 2007 7:07 PM EDT
In a democracy, this should work the other way around. For example. Say the establishment that controls the debate rules wants to axe Ron Paul from the next debate. The media should arrange a boycott amongst themselves so no one can watch the insider love fest. To have something 180 degrees from correct shows that this debate system needs redone from a clean slate.

Some complain about too many 'third tier' candidates in the debates. But it was Ron Paul that made the last one worth watching. As H. Ross Perot did before. Once the third tier stop showing up, you may as well plug your ears to election coverage until the polling data comes out a week before the primary.

Do you really think the budget would have been balanced if it were not for Perot getting into double digits in the '92 election? It is really the third tier that makes the difference at this stage. If they broke the debates into a debate amongst the top three, and another for all the others. If you would choose to watch the top three debate? I bet you like to watch paint dry too.
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by jburdman7 May 16, 2007 5:36 PM EDT
In a democracy, this should work the other way around. For example. Say the establishment that controls the debate rules wants to axe Ron Paul from the next debate. The media should arrange a boycott amongst themselves so no one can watch the insider love fest. To have something 180 degrees from correct shows that this debate system needs redone from a clean slate.

Some complain about too many 'third tier' candidates in the debates. But it was Ron Paul that made the last one worth watching. As H. Ross Perot did before. Once the third tier stop showing up, you may as well plug your ears to election coverage until the polling data comes out a week before the primary.

Do you really think the budget would have been balanced if it were not for Perot getting into double digits in the '92 election? It is really the third tier that makes the difference at this stage. If they split the debates into a debate amongst the top three, and another for all the others. If you would choose to watch the top three debate? I bet you like to watch paint dry too.
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by mattcat25 May 16, 2007 1:11 PM EDT
The absolute superlative youtube moment of last night's debate came from Texas Representative Ron Paul. Bursting out from the pack of party line talking points, Rep. Paul did something incongruous for a Republican%u2026he spoke the truth! And, by the reception of the biased crowd and interjection of Rudy Giuliani, it was evident the people that support the Republic Party don't want to accept any truth, they merely want to live in a fantasy public relation political talking point world, not the real world.

Ron Paul said that the reason Muslims are adverse towards to the United States is directly responsible to past (long ago, and current) US policy in the Middle East. The United States must take a forward foreign policy in regards to terrorism and Islamic jihad mentality. The existing stay the course attitude and continuous speak of war is a course to further disaster.
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by mattcat25 May 16, 2007 1:05 PM EDT
The absolute superlative youtube moment of last night's debate came from Texas Representative Ron Paul. Bursting out from the pack of party line talking points, Rep. Paul did something incongruous for a Republican%u2026he spoke the truth! And, by the reception of the biased crowd and interjection of Rudy Giuliani, it was evident the people that support the Republic Party don't want to accept any truth, they merely want to live in a fantasy public relation political talking point world, not the real world.

Ron Paul said that the reason Muslims are adverse towards to the United States is directly responsible to past (long ago, and current) US policy in the Middle East. The United States must take a forward foreign policy in regards to terrorism and Islamic jihad mentality. The existing stay the course attitude and continuous speak of war is a course to further disaster.
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by mattcat25 May 16, 2007 1:02 PM EDT
The absolute superlative youtube moment of last night's debate came from Texas Representative Ron Paul. Bursting out from the pack of party line talking points, Rep. Paul did something incongruous for a Republican%u2026he spoke the truth! And, by the reception of the biased crowd and interjection of Rudy Giuliani, it was evident the people that support the Republic Party don't want to accept any truth, they merely want to live in a fantasy public relation political talking point world, not the real world.

Ron Paul said that the reason Muslims are adverse towards to the United States is directly responsible to past (long ago, and current) US policy in the Middle East. The United States must take a forward foreign policy in regards to terrorism and Islamic jihad mentality. The existing stay the course attitude and continuous speak of war is a course to further disaster.
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by ronmwanga May 16, 2007 2:26 AM EDT
I am with you, Matthew -- and BTW, welcome to the fray -- debates are a part of the democratic process and should be beyond partisanship sentiment. We can only thank the stars that, 1) pre-Memorial Day, and, 2) with so many "contestants," and, 3) with the way the debates are presently formatted -- they are essentially useless. No one can even give a substantive response beyond the pre-programmed soundbyte (Think: McCain's recycled drunken sailor joke). So, luckily, we are not missing too much. Let's hope that by the time the herd thins out and the format starts to work in our -- the viewers -- favor, the partisanship-ethics issue will be somewhat resolved.
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by mattcat25 May 15, 2007 8:00 PM EDT
The last Republic Party 2008 Presidential Candidate Debate turned out to be like that movie weekend at Burney's where all the 10 prospects gave homage to former President Ronald Reagan. Also, they all beat the war drum and shook their (frail old) fists.

Tonight's debate should be in today's event of the passing of Jerry Falwell, a major religious hypocrital circle love fest%u2026and, war!

Queue your TIVOs.
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by mattcat25 May 15, 2007 7:49 PM EDT
The last Republic Party 2008 Presidential Candidate Debate turned out to be like that movie weekend at Burney's where all the 10 prospects gave homage to former President Ronald Reagan. Also, they all beat the war drum and shook their (frail old) fists.

Tonight's debate should be in today's event of the passing of Jerry Falwell, a major religious hypocrital circle love fest%u2026and, war!

Queue your TIVOs.
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by jetranger7 May 15, 2007 6:15 PM EDT
FOX NEWS IS FOR IDIOTS ANYWAY, USUALLY CORRUPT ARROGRANT DIM WITTED REPUBLICANS, WITH BIG MOUTHS WHO NEED A GOOD BUTT KICKING !!!!!
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by mja721 May 15, 2007 5:37 PM EDT
"Shouldn't we be trying to expose presidential candidates to as many potential voters as possible?"

No, let's keep this precious moments all to ourselves. I feel like each of the candidates is speaking right to me, about things I care about. If everyone watched, they might feel compelled to script their answers, and even, God forbid, try to control what questions will be asked.
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by mattcat25 May 15, 2007 3:36 PM EDT
The GOP Conservative Republic Party Candidates have (and continue to%u2026) traditionally mastered the art of speaking mendacity and then completely contradict their own statements.

Recording devices and GOP members don't always seem to coincide, it's their adage %u201Clie then deny%u201D. I'm sure TIVO cuts to youtube if relevant will be interesting.
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by mattcat25 May 15, 2007 3:21 PM EDT
The GOP Conservative Republic Party Candidates have (and continue to%u2026) traditionally mastered the art of speaking mendacity and then completely contradict their own statements.

Recording devices and GOP members don't always seem to coincide, it's their adage %u201Clie then deny%u201D. I'm sure TIVO cuts to youtube if relevant will be interesting.
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