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May 10, 2007 9:22 AM

The Public Eye Chat With…Linda Mason

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It's Thursday, and that means it's time for the Public Eye Chat. This week's subject is CBS News Senior Vice President, Standards and Special Projects Linda Mason. You can read excerpts and listen to the full interview below.





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Brian Montopoli: Producers will contact you and say "can we do this?" Can you give me an example of that kind of interaction?

Linda Mason: Sure. We're doing a story on something and we want to go get pictures of the person in question. Where can we go? Can we go on the sidewalk outside his house? Can we knock on the door and ask him to come out? …Of course you can't go on somebody's private property, but you can stand on the public sidewalk and have your camera there. They were just looking to get some video. So that's an easy one.

A harder one is we want to go undercover with a hidden camera. We're looking at airport safety, and we have a story on airport workers who don't have to go through the strenuous system that the pilots and the hostesses have to go through. They have a separate door where they come through. Can we send a hidden camera there? We talk to the lawyers and depending on what state you are, etc. etc., yes, and we did it. And it was a very interesting piece.

Brian Montopoli: Recently, as you know of course, a producer was fired for writing a Notebook that was in part lifted from a Wall Street Journal piece. What actions, other than firing the producer involved, has CBS News taken in response to that?

Linda Mason: That's something that happened a month ago, and I'd just as soon pass. We've taken – we think we have fixed the situation.

Brian Montopoli: Has there been any change in reminding people about standards? Has there been anything like that?

Linda Mason: Well, every time something like this happens, whether it's at CBS, the New York Times, NBC, ABC, yeah, we sit down and say, "Hey, we've gotten a little too complacent, we have to pay attention to these things." Absolutely.

Brian Montopoli: And so did that entail a company-wide refresher course?

Linda Mason: There wasn't a refresher course. It was ironic because I was scheduled to give a standards session to the Web at that very time, right before it happened…

Brian Montopoli: But that would have happened either way.

Linda Mason: That would have happened either way, yeah. It wasn't spurred by that event. It was spurred by, as I went through the different groups who I had not yet reached, the Web was one of them.

Brian Montopoli: Is the notion that CBS News has credibility beyond what maybe a blogger has particularly important to maintaining its popularity and success?

Linda Mason: I think a blog and CBSNews.com are two different things. I think a blog tends to reflect the opinion or opinions of the people putting out the blog. It in no way strikes to be fair and measured. It's putting out that viewpoint, I think. And I think that CBSNews.com is trying to put forth the whole story. So I think there's a real difference.

Brian Montopoli: And do you think people understand that difference?

Linda Mason: I don't know.

Brian Montopoli: You told me, a little while back, that you were "the first woman at every job I had at CBS News." And that includes in 1971, when you were the first female field producer for The CBS Evening News With Walter Cronkite. I'm curious your take on Katie Couric's experience as the first solo female nightly news anchor.

Linda Mason: I'm just surprised at how, almost 30 years after I worked on the "Evening News" as the first woman producer, that Katie is having such a tough time being accepted by the public, which seems to prefer the news from white guys, and now that Charlie's doing so well, from older white guys. I guess they want the reassurance of a Walter Cronkite.

I had no idea that a woman delivering the news would be a handicap. And I'm afraid that Katie's paying a price for being the first woman. But I think it's a great trail that she's blazing, and I think if the broadcast continues to be as good as it has been, if we continue to break news, if we continue to tell interesting stories, people will start to watch. It takes time, I think. But I was surprised that there was an obvious connection between a woman giving the news, and the audience wanting to watch it.
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by rexmurphy May 13, 2007 12:36 PM EDT
Newsflash for CBS:

Insulting and embarrassing, all at the same time. You Liberal media folks are so patently shallow, biased and elitist and possess such inflated egos (its a wonder you don't float off the planet)buttressed by liberal "group think," that you could not be more clueless - sufferers one and all of the Pauline Kael pandemic, which fortunately has been contained on the East and West coasts.

The problem at CBS is old Les, Katie and of course Linda Mason and all the other empty suits, not the viewing public.

Albert Einstein once said that Insanity was doing the same things over and over again and expecting different results. You left wing media outlets are simply rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, while steering a course directly for the icebergs.

Bon Voyage......
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by dannydel2 May 13, 2007 11:42 AM EDT
The most memorable thing Katie ever did was to take one up the bum on national t.v., purportedly for cancer. I wouldn't mind getting the raw footage of THAT show.
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by ricardo4max May 13, 2007 11:15 AM EDT
It is extremely encouraging to see so many great posts and realize that the drive-by left wing media is completely wrong about what Americans think and feel. It's really makes one wonder how any Democrats were able to be elected at all.
Democrats and their accomplices in the media need to stop underestimating the American people.
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by pokenhorn May 13, 2007 11:08 AM EDT
Hey, it's over. Those days when 'journalists' used that title as cover for their political activism are gone. The raised eyebrow, the snide tone, the sneer, the smirk... all of it now useless. We have the net, we have Rush, and we have Fox News. The fortunes of CBS, NBC, and ABC will improve as they become more like Fox.
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by rpaulstu May 13, 2007 10:55 AM EDT
I haven't read every single post here, but in skimming around I haven't seen anyone comment on Mason's answer to Montopoli's second question: her REFUSAL to answer. "I'd just as soon pass" is hardly the reply I'd expect, given this site's dedication to "transparent journalism." Shame on Linda Mason on several different levels.
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by dogpatch388 May 13, 2007 10:51 AM EDT
Afterthought:

In these posts I keep reading the word, "journalist." And, for years I have heard "journalists" say that they went into "journalism" to "make a difference."

What a load! If you "journalists" really want to make a difference, stop calling yourselves "journalists" and become REPORTERS! We could surely use a few reporters who report the news rather than making up fiction or leaving out key parts of your story to satisfy your agenda or the agenda of your socialist boss.

Again, wanna make a difference? Report the news whether you like the news the way it is or not.

Bill Hobbs


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by rekrap1227 May 13, 2007 9:50 AM EDT
So all of you sexist TV viewers be warned! Either you start watching Katie Couric, skill or no skill, or you will be charged with committing hate crimes and all of your TV channels except CBS will be locked-out.
Affirmative action must and will work! Individual merit is just another lie of the capitalist oppressors.
Hillary Clinton's vast Right breast and wing Kentucky fried chicken conspiracy theory is now proven beyond a doubt.
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by rekrap1227 May 13, 2007 9:50 AM EDT
So all of you sexist TV viewers be warned! Either you start watching Katie Couric, skill or no skill, or you will be charged with committing hate crimes and all of your TV channels except CBS will be locked-out.
Affirmative action must and will work! Individual merit is just another lie of the capitalist oppressors.
Hillary Clinton's vast Right breast and wing Kentucky fried chicken conspiracy theory is now proven beyond a doubt.
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by cootiepurge May 13, 2007 9:22 AM EDT
Why does this world accept as verbatim fact that Couric is the first woman to do this? What about Connie Chung (CBS), Diane Sawyer (ABC), Elizabeth Vargas (ABC),Paula Zahn (who cares?)? It's because none of them has the chops to deliver hard news, least of all the perky Katie Couric. The liberal left is hell bent on labeling people (the first woman anchor, the first black president, the first woman speaker of the house, etc.- It doesn't matter that they're qualified, as long as they blaze a trail. And the networks and CNN still wonder why ratings are plummeting and the viewing public are flocking in droves to FOX news. And someone actually suggested that Amanpour has credibility? Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-.....!!!
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by geiserdad May 13, 2007 8:51 AM EDT
What's Katie Couric's problem? Two answers:

First, audio. We have a big-screen but non-HDTV, el cheapo, off-brand TV, with a speaker about the size of jelly-jar lid, and it generates an audio that is intelligible and little else. Over it, Ms. Couric's voice is shrill, tinny, and very irritating to listen to for more than a few moments. Fix this!!!

Second, content. We don't care who your Talking Head is. But we're all bored with CBS News' fixation on political correctness and deliverance of the U.S. government into the hands of the Right People. Just do the news!
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by ryenotzinger May 13, 2007 8:40 AM EDT
Ms. Mason is a racist, an ageist, and a misandric bigot. CBS had no problem firing Imus for similar admissions. Double standards don't seem to bother CBS.

CBS also fired a number of staff members when Mary Mapes%u2019 provided forged records against President Bush, yet they kept ugly ol' Dan feeding at the trough. It was HIS NAME on the show, but they didn't hold him responsible.

Is CBS holding Katie responsible for the plagiarism in the column that carries her name? Nope. They fired the guy who cheated, yet Katie stays, so it appears that she will be held to the same standards as Dan Rather; meaning none.

It is now easy to understand why CBS is in a far third place.
Promoting someone as dim-witted, and bigoted, as Ms. Mason, and then allowing her to speak in public, exhibits the complete incompetence of CBS.

After reading so many thoughtful answers, my previous question has been answered. CBS is at fault. They are a COMPLETELY FOUL organization. Their stench of incompetence matches the smell of an over-filled garbage scow at high-noon in August. Why, oh why, do they continue to FIRE the WRONG people????
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by slleky May 13, 2007 7:24 AM EDT
Don't blame the failure of Katie Couric as anchor on sexism from the public- blame it on the "genius" of Les Moonves, who apparently thought that the American news audience would prefer to get thier news from an entertainer rather than a real journalist.

As another reader commented, it's probably not sexism that has doomed Katie, as there are plenty of solid female TV reporters with unimpeachable journalistic cred (like Christiane Amanpour) and Katie Couric was never one of them - but Moonves, who likes to see smiley faces on everything at CBS, decided that viewers wanted smiley face Katie presenting the news. Can Moonves admit he made a mistake?
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by slleky May 13, 2007 7:18 AM EDT
Don't blame the failure of Katie Couric as anchor on sexism from the public- blame it on the "genius" of Les Moonves, who apparently thought that the American news audience would prefer to get thier news from an entertainer rather than a real journalist.

As another reader commented, it's probably not sexism that has doomed Katie, as there are plenty of solid female TV reporters with unimpeachable journalistic cred (like Christiane Amanpour) and Katie Couric was never one of them - but Moonves, who likes to see smiley faces on everything at CBS, decided that viewers wanted smiley face Katie presenting the news. Can Moonves admit he made a mistake?
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by scmedlap May 13, 2007 6:05 AM EDT
To begin...Old, young, white, black, yellow, brown or purple does not make one bit of difference when critiquing Ms. Couric...If Ms. Mason and people at CBS are truthful...She just does not have what it takes...If one would stand next to Ms. Couric as well as Ms. Mason you could hear the ocean roar....It would be like putting a conch shell to one's ear...They are both anal retentive and 2 of the greatest rectums in all of diarrhea...She should be gone from CBS...Bite the bullet and dump her..."NOW"...
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by poorcbs1 May 13, 2007 5:24 AM EDT
Linda

If what you say is true, you must have some research that shows a disproportionate % of older white males tuning out Katey (as opposed to older females, etc.) You do, don't you? Or is this another case of "the facts may not be true but the story is" ala Dan "where is he now" Rather?
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by rubi34 May 13, 2007 4:22 AM EDT
Linda Mason believing viewers only want an older white male is indicative of her narrow views. I do not have interest in watching Couric, because I think she is a prissy, lightweight who lacks the class the job she has needs. IMO, she didn't get where she is by talent unless she has something to offer which fails to transmit.
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by rexmurphy May 13, 2007 2:47 AM EDT
Newsflash for CBS:

Albert Einstein once said that Insanity was doing the same things over and over again and expecting different results, which aptly describes the mainstreat media. You folks are so patently shallow and elitist, with such inflated egos (its a wonder you don't float off the planet)buttressed by liberal "group think," that you could not be more clueless.

The problem at CBS is Les, Katie, Linda Mason and the rest of the cabal of empty suits, not the viewing public. You and the all the other left wing media outlets are simply rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, while steering a course directly for the icebergs.

Bon Voyage......
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by wordamus May 13, 2007 1:59 AM EDT
The trouble is not, I repeat, not Couric. She was hired by CBS. CBS wanted her. She didn't buy the network nor did she force them to hire her.

The problem is wholly CBS. The network wanted a set image doing what they have been doing since Walter left. That is strongly left slanted, vaporous and mostly propaganda news.

And for a time they had a run with it. But they were mugged recently by the blogs, Matt Drudge, FOX news, talk radio and the internet generally.

CBS is not a big news funnel anymore. Their share of the news pie is getting smaller and smaller. The recent past suggests that share will continue to shrink.

Nor is any of this a secret to anymore not even CBS. Anyone with their eyes half open and a somewhat functioning brain can read the writing on the wall.

Despite impending news marginality, CBS plods on as if the calender says 1960 and they still rule the roost. Fact is they are not even smart enough to protect their dwindling share of the news market. Ms. Mason is emblematic of the problem; she blames old white guys.

That is not only stupid and tasteless, it is flat out racist.

TJ







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by dannydel2 May 13, 2007 1:57 AM EDT
When it came to choosing an 'Anchor', CBS forgot one little thing: A JOURNALIST! Instead, they went with a daytime hostess. If they wanted a female journalist, they should have actually looked for one. Someone with credibility. Say someone such as Christiane Amanpour. Katie Courics smarmy smile and syrupy monotone voice, does not make her a journalist, just as putting a jolly, fat, baldheaded weather reader on a semi-serious program and expect the public to actually take him seriously. Add to that, the constant stream of reports about Katies miserable attitude towards co-workers and there you have it...Karma. I suspect that CBS will never admit they were wrong and that a lot of people simply can't stomach her, and so she will continue her Titanic like slide into the media abyss, until one day, their ratings will finally collapse like a black hole. Good luck, morons.
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by dannydel2 May 13, 2007 1:08 AM EDT
When it came to choosing an 'Anchor', CBS forgot one little thing: A JOURNALIST! Instead, they went with a daytime hostess. If they wanted a female journalist, they should have actually looked for one. Someone with credibility. Say someone such as Christiane Amanpour. Katie Courics smarmy smile and syrupy monotone voice, does not make her a journalist, just as putting a jolly, fat, baldheaded weather reader on a semi-serious program and expect the public to actually take him seriously. Add to that, the constant stream of reports about Katies miserable attitude towards co-workers and there you have it...Karma. I suspect that CBS will never admit they were wrong and that a lot of people simply can't stomach her, and so she will continue her Titanic like slide into the media abyss, until one day, their ratings will finally collapse like a black hole. Good luck, morons.
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