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October 29, 2009 1:25 PM

Pakistan Lashes Back at Clinton

(AP Photo/Mansoor Ahmed)
Pakistani officials reacted angrily Thursday night to U.S. Secretary of State Hilary Clinton’s remarks earlier in the day in which she said, she found it "hard to believe" that no one in Pakistan’s government, including the country’s "military security establishment," knew where al Qaeda leaders were hiding.

Left: Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton is escorted by Pakistani Rangers at the Iqbal Memorial in Lahore, Pakistan, Oct. 29, 2009. Clinton is on a three-day state visit to Pakistan.

The controversy could overshadow Clinton’s first visit to the country as Secretary of State, especially as her remarks will be seen questioning the sincerity of the influential military, Pakistani officials said.

"If we are going to have a mature partnership where we work together" then "there are issues that not just the United States but others have with your government and with your military security establishment," Clinton was quoted telling senior Pakistani journalists in Lahore. "I find it hard to believe that nobody in your government knows where they (al Qaeda leaders) are and couldn't get them if they really wanted to," she said.

Pakistani officials said Clinton’s remarks on the "military security establishment" probably referred to the powerful Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), the counterespionage agency.

In the past, Western officials, including U.S. officials, have claimed that the ISI has nurtured Islamic militants to stage proxy insurgency campaigns on the country’s behalf in India’s mountainous Kashmir region and in Afghanistan.

A senior Pakistani government official who spoke to CBS News on condition of anonymity late Thursday night said, Clinton’s remarks will likely provoke some reaction from key military leaders who increasingly see the U.S. as insensitive to the army’s ongoing campaign against Taliban militants in the south Waziristan region.

"How can the U.S. at this time be so insensitive for Mrs. Clinton to speak out in public in this way," asked the Pakistani government official. "These remarks suggest a very high degree of insensitivity." However, Western diplomats said Clinton’s trip following the recent Kerry-Lugar bill passed by the U.S. Congress which triples U.S. aid to Pakistan to an annual of $1.5 billion over the next five years, was likely to enhance U.S. influence in the country.

"The U.S. position will become stronger if the money begins flowing in. While there will be heart-burning among segments of the Pakistani government, the U.S. will remain a very influential country," a Western diplomat in Islamabad told CBS News.
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by kalyanbk November 4, 2009 3:31 PM EST
The US generals have asked for 40,000 additional troops for Afghanistan. Maybe the US can negotiate with India and see if India can send that 40,000 troops to Afghanistan. Nothing will bring the Pakistan Military to the western Border faster than if the Indian troops were in Afghanistan. If Pakistan does not want the conditional US aid money, maybe it can be given to other friendly countries.
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by ansarimomin November 3, 2009 12:24 PM EST
We know where Al-Qaeda leaders are Ms Clinton -- they are in the Texas safe house of CIA !!
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by ianlou October 30, 2009 9:26 AM EDT
Way to go Hillary!!!

You left the Pakistani Government with a choice of admitting either Stupidity or Complicity.

No wonder they are Pissed, The Truth Hurts.

I wonder how Osama Bin Forgotten feels about the heat being turned up by a women.
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by Democracy9 October 30, 2009 8:33 AM EDT
I am very proud of Hillary! It is time somebody spoke the truth and asked for accountability from Pakistan. We have given billions to Pakistan without any results whatsoever. For nearly a half-century, we have subsidized their military and they have used it to collude with Islamic fundamentalists and cause nuclear proliferation. It is time we held the Pakistani military accountable. It is a clear message to them that we will not tolerate it anymore. It is a bold move. Now we need to stand firm and make sure that money sent for education and development will not be siphoned off to the military.
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by worldcitizen1 October 30, 2009 8:37 PM EDT
The US should learn that neither money or military power can control the people of the world, the US would do better setting an example and helping others while maintaining the ability to defend our country, than to force countries to comply with our demands or face "sanctions" or face war.
by robinspp October 30, 2009 8:25 AM EDT
Money cannot buy everything.
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by robinspp October 30, 2009 8:22 AM EDT
We had one 9/11, they are having everyday 9/11. The Pakistan people are afraid and terrorized everyday because of the predator drown attack. We do not consider everyone as human beings. If some country try to do the same thing in our country, can we tolerate? You cannot have two rules.
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by 6591Hou October 30, 2009 12:56 PM EDT
You're repeating their B.S. - 9/11 everyday? 3,000 people are being killed by aircraft flying into their skyscrapers every day? They, like the Taliban, harbored the snake den called Al Qaeda because it didn't target them and when it came time for someone to clean out the snakes the sympathizers start crying about how cruel we are. Predators aren't flying over all of Pakistan, only where the snakes are. The Pakistani people need to clean them out or we'll do it for them.

And the word is 'drone' not 'drown'
by chonder2 October 30, 2009 8:18 AM EDT
Pakistan is 50% one step above the stone age,

50% trying to break into the 20th century.

It's involved in an internal tribal war,

while in possesion of nuclear weapons!
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by worldcitizen1 October 30, 2009 8:42 PM EDT
So the best thing we can do is mind our business and leave them alone. How did they happen to acquire nuclear technology? How did Iran get their start in nuclear research? The US is for "non-proliferation", right?
by apachekid October 30, 2009 7:58 AM EDT
Pakistan Lashes Back at Clinton ......


Believe it or not Hillary you're telling the truth. While Obama swaggers about fund raising & making photo opts. You have the courage to stand up for something we've known since 2002. You should have been President. Maybe next time???
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by sjc_1 October 30, 2009 11:44 AM EDT
The Pakistan government has been two faced from the beginning. They take our money and smile while they let the Taliban do what they want and then say that they do not know where they are. They know where they are and have all along. At some point you have to call a liar a liar and get rid of all the nonsense.
by geewheeez October 29, 2009 11:23 PM EDT
they are insulted because of WHAT? I think Clinton might not have the tack in saying it. But I find it hard to believe that they can't find a person whom is less than the size of America. It is the truth that we all know that the Pakistanis are not willing to give up the terrorist, as they hate us. But I guess they do not hate us to the point of not accepting our financial help.
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by alanrobisch October 29, 2009 9:40 PM EDT
Stuart do you know what a diplomat is supposed to do? If insulting the leaders of the country you want to cooperate with you is diplomacy I'll eat my hat. She may be right. But you tell your wife that the dress looks horrible if you wan her to be friends later. It was a stupid action on her part whether she was right or wrong. It is what I call a gratuitous insult which will get nothing for america but get praise from kool aid drinkers like you. You don't get cooperation from someone by insulting them.
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by armyoftwelve October 29, 2009 9:21 PM EDT
Why the heck is she wearing a veil????? She's not a muslim, not from pakistan....she wouldn't normally wear a veil in the US.

Mrs Clinton: it's time to set a new basis for international/intercultural relations. Western women don't wear veils, and the secretary of state the SAME way she would dress in the USA no matter where she is. If muslims don't like this TIME TO GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by worldleader5402 October 31, 2009 11:24 AM EDT
Thats not a veil!! Thats a headscarf worn by some Pakistani women. She is showing respect to the culture of the place she is visiting. Didnt Bush wear a Yamalka when he visited Israel?
Someone else needs to get over it!
by stuart-johns2 October 29, 2009 9:12 PM EDT
I agree with Clinton, wholeheartedly.
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by ratee-2009 October 29, 2009 9:02 PM EDT
What does the US know about the Al-Qaida and where they are?? What have their illegal drone attacks achieved so far? Did they get the Al-Qaida when they attacked Afghanistan?Which leader they killed or captured.

Who was the creator of Al-Qaida and Mujaheddin it was CIA of USA and who pushed them into Pakistan??

Why are you blaming Pakistan its the only country fighting Taliban while NATO troops are sitting back and watching the civil war they have forced on Pakistan. Open up your eyes you insensitive writers 4,000 Pakistanis have died more than what you lost in the 9/11 attack.

This war will end when USA will leave this region
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by armyoftwelve October 29, 2009 9:25 PM EDT
Pakistan's ISI created the taliban. Al-qaida was not created by the CIA. The ongoing wars in that region started WAY before the presence of US forces.

Pakistanis die for a lot of reasons; including sectarian strife between shi'a and sunnis--not to mention wars of aggression that pakistan started with India. And what about all the hindu's massacred in East Pakistan/Bangladesh right before Bangladesh's War of Independence????

Ms. Clinton didn't "blame Pakistan" she pointed out that the ISI and the taliban are MUCH too close.
by Democracy9 October 30, 2009 8:45 AM EDT
It has become very convenient to claim that the CIA pushed Al-Qaeda and mujahideen into Pakistan. Zia-ul-Huq, the dictator who ran Pakistan when Russia invaded Afghanistan saw the mess as a golden opportunity. He could get billions in aid from the United States to grow the Pakistani army, suppress the people of Pakistan, and ensure that military brass will run the country.

They do not want to get rid off the Al-Qaeda because it means money will stop flowing in. They will have to actually let the democratic government to function, providing jobs and education for the families. The military will actually have to work and may not have luxurious compounds with swimming pools and unlimited money.
by 6591Hou October 30, 2009 12:58 PM EDT
ratee-2009 - Give us Osama Bin Laden and we will leave.
by formrusmcsgt October 29, 2009 8:50 PM EDT
Didn't take Hillary long to stick that fat foot in her big mouth,eh?

"These remarks suggest a very high degree of insensitivity."

Au contrar, they indicate a high degree of old fashioned stupidy.

Clinton is doomed as a diplomat. She has no skills. None.

I voted for Obama, but thinking this broad is any kind of diplomat was downright ridiculous.

10 to 1 if Obama has a second term, Hillary will not.
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by alanrobisch October 29, 2009 7:39 PM EDT
I remember when Bush was criticized for his bull in a china shop comments. Apparently liberals don't see it in a secretary state who is there to make relations between the two countries better not worse. It was an excellent example of hoof in mouth disease.
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by kansas1946 October 29, 2009 7:34 PM EDT
Good for Hillary. Pakistan is one of the most dangerous countries in the world and a haven for the worst of the worst of the Islamic extremists.
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by OldGeezer43 October 29, 2009 5:29 PM EDT
Appears as if we should pack up all the nukes and get out of there. That whole area is nothing but religious tribes who are only interested in their own little kingdoms. Let them fight it out among themselves. oh yeah, lets not send them anymore money.
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by Empire_George October 29, 2009 4:12 PM EDT
AOCGUY, any idea what those funny looking backpacks are in the photo ? Possible cover for their MP5's or Uzi ?

What a shame that the Secretary of State of the United States has to be forced to wear a head scarf
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by AOCGUY October 29, 2009 5:03 PM EDT
Beats the heck out of me - maybe boogie boards.
by AOCGUY October 29, 2009 3:07 PM EDT
Notice to Pakaistan - Pick a side, any side then we can deal. Fact, Al Qaida and Taliban crimanlas are hiding out in your country and you as well as the rest of the world knows it. You receive billions in US Military assistance then whine when we place conditions like use the money to fight terrorism oon your western border.

If you want our moey and respect, belly up to the bar and do your part. If you have Taliban/Al Qaida sympathizers in your ranks, get rid of them or send them to patrol yor border with India. No more half measures. Let's either get this done or collectively decide to take our respective balls and go home. Oh, and our ball comes with those billions in military assitance we will take back too. Maybe we should give it to India. How about them apples.

Insensitive - Geez?
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by curiously1 October 29, 2009 2:42 PM EDT
Clinton is absolutely correct. The Pakistani government is either incompetent or unwilling to hunt down these terrorists. Enough is enough. Tell it as it is !
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by sjc_1 October 29, 2009 3:12 PM EDT
You have to call a liar a liar or they just keep on lying. I know that you are suppose to do it in a diplomatic way, but when they have been doing it for years they need to be confronted.
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