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October 29, 2009 5:47 PM

Birther Orly Taitz's Lawsuit Dismissed

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A U.S. district court judge on Thursday dismissed a lawsuit involving Orly Taitz seeking to have President Obama removed from office because he is not a natural born citizen of the United States.

In his dismissal – which is, despite the legalese, a pretty entertaining read – Judge David O. Carter writes that removal of a sitting president for any reason "is within the province of Congress, not the courts."

"Plaintiffs have attacked the judiciary, including every prior court that has dismissed their claim, as unpatriotic and even treasonous for refusing to grant their requests and for adhering to the terms of the Constitution which set forth its jurisdiction," he writes.

"Respecting the constitutional role and jurisdiction of this Court is not unpatriotic," continues Carter. "Quite the contrary, this Court considers commitment to that constitutional role to be the ultimate reflection of patriotism."

Carter says at another point that "the hearings have been interesting to say the least."

"Plaintiffs’ counsel has favored rhetoric seeking to arouse the emotions and prejudices of her followers rather than the language of a lawyer seeking to present arguments through cogent legal reasoning," he writes. "While the Court has no desire to chill Plaintiffs’ enthusiastic presentation, Taitz’s argument often hampered the efforts of her cocounsel Gary Kreep (“Kreep”), counsel for Plaintiffs Drake and Robinson, to bring serious issues before the Court."

"[T]he Court has received several sworn affidavits that Taitz asked potential witnesses that she planned to call before this Court to perjure themselves," writes Carter. "This Court is deeply concerned that Taitz may have suborned perjury through witnesses she intended to bring before this Court."

Elsewhere in the document, Carter says that "[p]laintiffs appear to assume that should the Court receive a document from Kenya, the Court would give credence to this document over the American birth records of the President and the case would be resolved."

"Even should the Court permit the issuance of a letter rogatory to Kenya, the Court would still engage in a comparative exercise in which the records of America, which has historically maintained some of the most credible recordkeeping practices in the world, would be contrasted with the credibility of the records obtained from Kenya," he writes.

The Judge complains that the plaintiffs "have encouraged the Court to ignore these mandates of the Constitution; to disregard the limits on its power put in place by the Constitution; and to effectively overthrow a sitting president who was popularly elected."

At one point, in a footnote, Carter says that "The inclusion of the First Lady in this lawsuit, considering she holds no constitutional office, is baffling."

The birthers' claims have been repeatedly knocked down by media outlets.

Taitz has filed multiple court cases making similar claims, and was fined $20,000 following another dismissal by a judge who says she had abused "her privilege to practice law." She is refusing to pay the fine.
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by borderhawk November 9, 2009 3:56 PM EST
Quo Warranto in DC District Court on October 21, 2009 Missed by Judge David O. Carter, moots dismissal of Keyes|Barnett v Obama

STRUNK v U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE - 27 - Letter from Christopher Earl Strunk - gov.uscourts.dcd.1345

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21832918/STRUNK-v-U-S-DEPARTMENT-OF-STATE-27-Letter-from-Christopher-Earl-Strunk-gov-uscourts-dcd-134568-27-0

Quo Warranto cannot be dismissed and forces answer to challenge of authority to occupy office.
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by borderhawk November 9, 2009 3:50 PM EST
2009-11-07 Orly Taitz in play and still swinging.

KEYES|BARNETT (CODY JUDY) - MOTION FOR PERMISSIVE JOINDER ) AND AMENDMENT TO THE ) CIVIL RIGHTS / FE

http://www.scribd.com/doc/22291433/KEYES-BARNETT-CODY-JUDY-MOTION-FOR-PERMISSIVE-JOINDER-AND-AMENDMENT-TO-THE-CIVIL-RIGHTS-FEDERAL-V-ELECTIONS-COMPLAINT-922288917-Judy-v
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by TheDudeRulz November 5, 2009 9:31 AM EST
How sad it is that a major media network like CBS would rejoice in what is almost certainly the largest criminal fraud ever committed on US soil. All Obama has to do to quiet a rapidly growing group of concerned US citizens is to produce the documents. I am not surprised at all that liberal loons refuse to recognize or accept the problems an illegal president would create; they are simply far too ignorant of the law (including the US Constitution). And, quite frankly, they don't care about the law. Does anyone really think that if McCain had been elected and the LEFT had filed these lawsuits, this issue would be so quickly ignored by the mainstream media? No, of course it wouldn't. But here's a nasty little secret...McCain's legal citizen status was actually vetted by the US Senate. One wonders why Obama was not? Produce the documents Obama. Stop blocking any and all access to your educational records and birth records. I was actually born in Hawaii sir and the COLB you claim is a birth certificate is not. http://zapem.wordpress.com/2009/01/11/obama-knew-he-wasnt-eligible-for-potus/
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by D_Blue November 9, 2009 2:17 PM EST
Obama proved his citizenship and birthplace in the eyes of the law to the exact same degree that all his predecessors did. Conspiracy theorists like the "Birthers" don't care about evidence. The way they dismiss everything showing they're wrong then stretch/twist each hint to turn it into "proof" shows that. Were a film showing Obama being born, clearly demonstrating the location, to be broadcast they'd insist it was a fake. So the President did a smart thing, When he released a copy of the exact same document Hawaii issues, Birthers reacted to it like sharks to bloody chum. He has stopped feeding them. Now they're reduced to making stuff up (and when the obvious forgeries are proven as such, assume the White House was behind it all).
by borderhawk November 3, 2009 11:04 PM EST
The Lucas Smith "footprint" Birth Certificate

Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkWd2INPhL4
Photo http://senatorobama.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/lucassmithkenyabirthcertificate.jpg
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by borderhawk November 3, 2009 5:44 AM EST
Short answer:
The territories on the coast rented from the Sultan of Zanzibar became the Kenya Protectorate.

http://books.google.com/books?id=TR8NAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=The+Statesman%27s+year+book&ei=efbvSs_6MJX6lQSvyfHWCw#v=onepage&q=&f=false

http://www.archive.org/stream/statesmansyearbo030477mbp/statesmansyearbo030477mbp_djvu.txt

Full text of "The Statesmans Year Book 1950"

KENYA COLONY AND PROTECTORATE.

Government. The Kenya Colony and Protectorate extend, on the Indian Ocean, from the Umba River to Dick's Head, and inland as far as Lake
Victoria and Uganda. The protectorate consists of the mainland dominions
of the Sultan of Zanzibar, viz., a coastal strip of territory 10 miles wide, to the northern branch of the Tana River; also Kau, Kipini and the Island of Lamu, and all adjacent islands between rivers Umba and Tana, these territories having been leased to Great Britain in 1895 for an annual rent of 10,000, since raised to 16,000. The colony and protectorate, known as the East Africa Protectorate, were, on 1 April, 1905, transferred from the authority of the Foreign Office to that of the Colonial Office, and in November, 1906, the protectorate was placed under the control of a Governor and Commander-in-Chief and (except the Sultan of Zanzibar's dominions) was annexed to the Crown as from 23 July, 1920, under the name of * The Colony of Kenya,' thus becoming a Crown Colony. The territories on the coast rented from the Sultan of Zanzibar became the Kenya Protectorate. In 1908 foreign consular jurisdiction in the Zanzibar strip of coast was transferred to the British Crown.
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by FlyoverPatriot October 31, 2009 10:55 AM EDT
Interesting that it does not concern the American population that the man in the White House received unheard of money for a war chest 100 times what the 'rich Republican' had which is still not verified by the watch dogs who keep changing the donor lists - the multiple 'unemployed' housewives that donated $50,000 in particular. A war chest that only an Arab country could have 'helped' with - you look it up, my sources are from D.C. itself.

That his 'election' to office was spearheaded by ACORN which has been proven time and time again to be untrustworthy, registering people multiple times, animals and the deceased.

I do not believe that he was elected in truth, he still has not provided papers that any other American man would have, (i.e Selected service registration, Oath of Citizenship that he would have had to have taken choose preference of nationality upon turning 18 being the adopted child of a Muslim Indonesian, his passport-the one he has used prior to government service- would not have allowed his presence in areas where he has been seen and documented.)And yes, the piece of paper that has been passed around as his 'Certified Birth Certificate' does not look like any other in existance for either the State of Hawaii or any other of the '49' not '57.'

In my book, the US has no vetted POTUS. Sad, we may have to come to blows over this one. My Bible clutching, gun carrying hands will not bow to this 'Arab puppet.' I am a Christian, not a Muslim and I know that in the end God will win, I read the 'rest of the story.' Now I am observing. May God help us when our country is bankrupt and broken by this current administration. I only hope that the adults return to power soon and the 'kid-libs' and their unrealistic ideology are corrected swiftly.
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by D_Blue November 9, 2009 2:25 PM EST
You've just spouted a whole slew of utter nonsense. Given he was a US citizen at birth, Barack Obama Jr. had no legal requirement to take any oath upon turning 18 (he WOULD have had to do so to retain Kenyan citizenship through his father, but he didn't--which has zero impact on US law which doesn't recognize the concept of dual citizenship). The nonsense about his passport is another case in point--there was NO BAN on travel by US citizens to Pakistan. Meanwhile, your absurd claims about unemployed housewives each contributing $50,000 is a perfect example of sloppy thinking--in fact millions of Americans contributed tiny amounts several times over the course of the campaign. Think about it--if 500,000 people each gave twenty dollars then the total of those donations alone would be TEN MILLION DOLLARS. It adds up. Meanwhile, you insist that a man who was not raised in any faith but has attended a Church of Christ for over a decade is somehow a Muslim (presumably because his father--an atheist--as raised Muslim). Have you the slightest idea how stupid that sounds? No, probably not.
by Rcon1 October 30, 2009 2:57 PM EDT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU

See the fall of the republic a new Alex Jones movie then
make your comments.
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by crowtrob October 30, 2009 11:42 AM EDT
what's really funny is that all these birthers who have "done the research" and can "prove obama was born in mombasa, kenya" have missed one glaring point. obama was born in 1961, no one contests this fact. in 1961, mombasa was a part of zanzibar under the governance of tanzania, not kenya. mombasa was incorporated into independent kenya in 1963. no one disputes that fact.

but, this cretin taitz has produced 2 forged birth certificates that states that obama was born in mombasa, kenya in 1961, even though no such place existed at that time. 2 minutes of research would have lead them to forge that he was born in zanzibar state or tanzania. it would make them at least a little more believable.

like the glenn beck says "do you're own research". i did and the right wing nuts are wrong again.
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by borderhawk November 3, 2009 5:26 AM EST
The short answer:
"The territories on the coast rented from the Sultan of Zanzibar became the Kenya Protectorate."

Reference:
http://www.archive.org/stream/statesmansyearbo030477mbp/statesmansyearbo030477mbp_djvu.txt

Full text of "The Statesman's Year Book 1950

KENYA COLONY AND PROTECTORATE.

Government. The Kenya Colony and Protectorate extend, on the Indian Ocean, from the Umba River to Dick's Head, and inland as far as Lake
Victoria and Uganda. The protectorate consists of the mainland dominions of the Sultan of Zanzibar, viz., a coastal strip of territory 10 miles wide, to the northern branch of the Tana River; also Kau, Kipini and the Island of Lamu, and all adjacent islands between rivers Umba and Tana, these territories having been leased to Great Britain in 1895 for an annual rent of 10,000, since raised to 16,000. The colony and protectorate, known as the East Africa Protectorate, were, on 1 April, 1905, transferred from the authority of the Foreign Office to that of the Colonial Office, and in November, 1906, the protectorate was placed under the control of a Governor and Commander-in-Chief and (except the Sultan of Zanzibar's dominions) was annexed to the Crown as from 23 July, 1920, under the name of * The Colony of Kenya,' thus becoming a Crown Colony. The territories on the coast rented from the Sultan of Zanzibar became the Kenya Protectorate. In 1908 foreign consular jurisdiction in the Zanzibar strip of coast was transferred to the British Crown.
by in_africa November 3, 2009 2:25 PM EST
I'm in Uganda for awhile and am sitting around jawing with various Africans from Kenya and Uganda, and when I casually interject the question... Obama was born in Kenya, right? They always say "oh yes... he was born in Kenya." They think I'm a fan. The US citizenry are the only ones in the world that think he was born in the US or don't care..
by oldgoldman60 October 30, 2009 11:34 AM EDT
@DirtyDaug & CBSSpam
Your screen names say it all. You continue to spout the threadbare lies of the birthers and grumble, grouse, and gnash your teeth. The rest of us can only shake our heads and wonder why you even bother. You are like those poor souls that keep bashing their skulls against the wall because they know their heads will feel so much better when they stop. Jeepers, you have over three years more to complain. That?s a long time to waste fuming and fussing about something you will never, repeat, NEVER, be able to change. And echoing another post: you will have succeeded in incrementally diminishing the conservative movement significantly before the next elections in 2010 and 2012.
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by hungry1968-17 October 30, 2009 10:26 AM EDT
How much money are these "birthers" paying the courts and lawyers, for wasting so much time and money?
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by greco99-2009 October 30, 2009 9:35 AM EDT
She brought what looks to be a malicious case with clearly falsified (forged) documents.

Even after rejection by one court she filed again.

If she knowingly used falsified evidence this is a crime.

Fairly easy to find out who created the obviously forged Nigerian birth certificate that I believe she knowingly submitted to the courts (start by asking her who provided the documents).

We are more serious about going after the 'balloon boy' hoaxer Richard Heene. Look at the valuable resources used here in what appears a political and malicious legal action.

Funny that Republicans rail against frivolous lawsuits -- then not a peep about this nutcase and her travesty of justice.
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by greco99-2009 October 30, 2009 9:42 AM EDT
Let's ask the important question: who created the forged documents that Orly Taitz used as a basis for her case.

I think the administration does not want to seem heavy handed -- but, if she did this to anyone else there would be disbarment and criminal prosecution.

She has caused vastly more harm, perpetrated a worse hoax, and wasted far more resources than Richard Heene.
by mensarino October 30, 2009 9:24 AM EDT
Rcon-----You are dead wrong.Only the Congress is empowered to remove a sitting president.He can either be impeached or removed due to incapacitation,those are the only recourses.-----Yours truly,Government teacher.
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by Rcon1 October 30, 2009 2:41 PM EDT
Like I said, If he is proven to be in eligible to be president (read IF)
by a grand jury or the courts then of course congress would have to remove him. Now if its impeachment or some other method that would remain to be seen. If congress would do what its supposed to do and hold hearings on this matter that would be better and probably what the framers would have wanted.

However, if Obama filed false documents or some crime he could be convictided in a court of law for that crime. No man is above the law in this country.
by MPHgrad October 30, 2009 8:38 AM EDT
Ironic that the same people screaming for tort reform instead of insurance reform are the same ones hoarding the time & resources of the judicial system on such an asinine complaint. Have you nothing better to do with your time? These people should check themselves into their nearest mental health facilities or continue chasing UFOs. With all the other things needing attention in the world...
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by BeckieBest October 30, 2009 8:35 AM EDT
Just another daily illustration of how rabid and insane the right wing has become in this country.
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by brianbwb-2009 October 30, 2009 8:35 AM EDT
He rode a Blazing Saddle
He wore a shining star
His job, to walk the battle
To bad men near and far

He conquered fear and he conquered hate
Except for a few "birther" nuts
So on his Blazing Saddle
The "Right" can kiss our butts.
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by brianbwb-2009 October 30, 2009 8:08 AM EDT
"Taitz has filed multiple court cases making similar claims, and was fined $20,000 following another dismissal by a judge who says she had abused "her privilege to practice law." She is refusing to pay the fine."

So typical of those types, to run to the law for an action they wish to advance, but then ignore the law when the outcome doesn't go to their liking.

Sounds like Rowdy's twin sister.
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by msimamaji October 30, 2009 8:18 AM EDT
Taitz is an example of what Sarah Palin would consider "Going Rogue." Rogues after all have no regard for the law or the Constitution.
And Palin wants to be the next president.

Actually Orly Taitz is Sarah Palin's twin sister.
by Rcon1 October 30, 2009 2:50 PM EDT
What and see if she has to pay that fine, I very much doubt it.
by DirtyDaug October 30, 2009 8:06 AM EDT
Kids when the start to school have to show there birth certificate. Sixteen year olds have to show their birth certificate to get a drivers license. When you retire you got to show proof of your age.

But here is one thing for sure,YOU HAVE TO SHOW NOTHING TO GET ELECTED TO THE HIGHEST OFFICE OF THE LAND.
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by msimamaji October 30, 2009 8:22 AM EDT
Guess what? I'm a white guy and I haven't the slightest idea of what happened to my birth certificate. However, I do have an American passport - so I use that for all identification purposes.

So the same would apply to President Obama. He has an American passport. Remember when he was a young man he traveled to places like Pakistan - something you cannot do without an American passport. (P>S. To get a passport for the first time, you must prove your citizenship.)

So DirtyDaug, your comments don't make sense. No one has asked Orly Taitz to provide a birth certificate, nor John McCain, nor George W. Bush. But then remember, they're all white.
by anitaymoore October 30, 2009 9:12 AM EDT
DirtyDaug, do you even know what you are talking about???? HE HAS shown it, repeatedly shown it, and since he does have a driver's license...he's shown it then as well. Give it up already.
by KPeters_from_UK October 30, 2009 7:56 AM EDT
by Rcon1 October 29, 2009 10:17 PM EDT
uh oh..Tyrebitre says;

"Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Honolulu" and

sshivers says;
"Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, HI. What's so hard about that? MORON!

When you guys work it out try again.
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Some one did answer your question. You need to pay attention. But just like all birthers you are BLIND to the facts and what was actually said by the judge. Reread the article.

Your answer:

by tyrebitre October 29, 2009 10:28 PM EDT
The identification of Queen's Medical was from an erroneous UPI story. They have corrected themselves, and everyone except Birfers, Teabaggers, Freepers and their cross-eyed hemophiliac offspring (freeplings) agree that Obama actually knows where he was born - at Kapi'olani.
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by Biggest_Rick October 30, 2009 7:37 AM EDT
I would argue that even if he was born in another country, he was born to an American mother which makes him a US citizen by blood and birth. His lack of qualifications to be US president have nothing to do with his birth. They more have to do with his lack of real experience and gravitas. Goodness in reality Sarah Palin had more executive experience than Mr. Obama; at least she had been a mayor and a governor. But it is a done deal and we are stuck with him for a little more than 3 more years and then the American people will be more than glad to correct their mistake.
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by anitaymoore October 30, 2009 9:15 AM EDT
Since he was elected on not just the electoral, but popular votes as well...I really doubt "the American people will be more than glad to correct their mistake." The people who are griping about him refuse to see that he won the popular vote by over 2 MILLION votes...aside from blowing away McCain on the electoral. This wasn't a close race...get over it already.
by DirtyDaug October 30, 2009 7:35 AM EDT
Somehow I wander why some people think its the norm for the President to spend around 1 and 1/2 million dollars of the taxpayers money to hide his records. If we knew the whole truth maybe any of us would do the same if we had been as rotten as Obama. Its not only the being rotten, there are other things that he might be ashamed of.

So people lets get real here.
Obama was more than likely born in Hawaii, but this was in 1962 when no white girl would even dare to be seen walking down the street with a black man especially if you was from a nice family from the mid-west USA. Can you imagine what Obama's grandparents thought when their daughter comes home and tells them she is pregnant with a black mans child, remember she was still a teenager. They maybe just kept her out of sight till she had the baby. Not much to go on as to where he was born in Hawaii but more than likely it was very low key when Obama was born, Even Obama's wife has admitted that Obama's mother was a single lady when Obama was born. It could be that he was delivered by a mid-wife and there never was a birth certificate. Then along comes this other guy from another country and he marries Obama's mother and takes her an little Obama to his home country which he had to adopt little Obama to do so.

Things like the above is maybe the reason Obama is hiding his records, he could be a foreign citizen and never bothered doing anything about it. Then who paid for his education and he was enrolled in a few different schools which he was kicked out of because he was maybe a little on the rotten side.

I could go on and on about why Obama is hiding his records but I will leave this up to you nuts who think its perfectly normal to spend one and 1/2 million dollars to hide ones records.
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by Tallytowngal October 30, 2009 9:06 AM EDT
HELLO!!!!! Internet Rumor... GEEZ you people cease to amaze me with you stupidity! Check you sources before you believe these Whacked Out theories... the Pres., nor anyone else has spent a single nickel on hiding the Presidents records! You are as looney as this crazy lady, if you throw out an accusation you better be able to show a credible source!
by DEMatHEART October 30, 2009 1:21 PM EDT
Obama has already produced the state-certified Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii.

Please, get over it and accept the fact that he is LEGIT, and that he is our 44th President.

Don't listen to that filibustering frivolous-lawsuit queen who doesn't regard facts and who sounds like fingernails on a blackboard. This is her sick attempt at getting 15 minutes of fame, and she's dragging all of you down with her.

Hey, while we're at it, we should DEMAND that Ms. Taitz produce her so-called law degree. How do we know for sure that SHE is legitimate???
by jayhg October 30, 2009 6:35 PM EDT
dirtydaug, you and your ilk are too funny. I've seen where President Obama spent anywhere from half a million to $4.5 million on the internet somewhere yesterday. IT IS A LIE!!!!! Every one knows it. You people can't possibly believe that John McCain, et al just sat around and let President Obama win in a landslide practically when he could have been disqualified!!?? That's because those republicans wanted a future in politics outside of some small town in the deep south. They wanted to be on the national stage and putting forth this junk would have ruined their political career because it's BUNK and everyone knows it. So sorry, it's over, President Obama was born in Hawaii, he's not spending money to hide ANYTHING, and repeating a bunch of Orly-isms is not going to change that!
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