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October 27, 2009 2:39 PM

Joe Lieberman Says He'll Block Reid's Health Care Bill

(AP/Lauren Victoria Burke)
Updated at 5:30 p.m. ET with more information.

Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) said Tuesday that he would support a Republican filibuster of a health care bill that includes a public option.

Lieberman's comments confirm that Democrats in the Senate do not currently have enough votes to move forward the health care plan laid out on Monday by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). Other moderates in the Democratic Caucus, Senators Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas, would not commit today to ending a filibuster.

"If the bill remains what it is now, I will not be able to support a cloture motion before final passage," Lieberman said, reports CBS News Capitol Hill Producer John Nolen.

Over the past two weeks, Reid has led negotiations with Senate leaders over how to merge different health care plans into one bill for the entire Senate to debate. He announced Monday he would include in the bill a government-run health insurance plan, or "public option," in the bill but would also include a provision allowing states to opt out of the plan if they chose to do so.

The "opt-out public option" is perceived as a compromise by liberals, but it was unclear Monday whether it would win the support of all 60 members of the Democratic caucus, which includes Lieberman. Democrats do not need 60 votes to approve health care legislation -- they simply need 60 votes to block the expected Republican filibuster.

Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine, the only Republican who may or may not support Democrats' health care plans, said Tuesday she would also support a filibuster of the bill as it currently stands, the Associated Press reports. Without Snowe's support, Reid cannot afford to lose any members of the Democratic caucus.

Speaking at a press conference Tuesday, the Democratic leaders who have been involved in shaping the Senate health care bill expressed confidence that they would be able to work through their party's remaining disputes to pass the bill.

"Joe Lieberman is the least of Harry Reid's problems," Reid said, adding that the Senate has yet to finalize its health care package. "We're not there yet. [Lieberman] will be involved in the amendment process."

Democratic Senators Chris Dodd, Max Baucus, Jay Rockefeller and Jeff Bingaman -- all a part of the health care deliberations -- praised Reid for his leadership.

"I'm so pleased we have a strong public option in this bill," Dodd said. "This is not easy, but [Reid] struck a balance. My hope is we can sustain that."

"I think the leader was very courageous to put [the public option] in," Rockefeller said. "I know in my soul, in my gut, that the momentum is moving in our direction."

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If the bill moves to a floor debate on the Senate, opponents of the public option are expected to try to strip the provision from the bill.

"What Sen. Reid's strategy requires, unless he can get to 60 votes without some of us [Democrats], is some very intensive negotiations once the floor debate begins," Lieberman said Tuesday.

Lieberman has said he opposes a public option because of the potential burden it could place on taxpayers. However, Democrats have crafted a public option that would be financed by premiums rather than federal funds.

Proponents of the public option are carefully watching other moderates in the Democratic caucus to see where they come down on the cloture vote. Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.), another senator who could potentially support a Republican filibuster, said today he has not yet decided what he will do, CBS News' Nolen reports.

"I haven't decided and can't decide [on cloture] until I've actually seen the physical bill, and I'm not going to be able to see that until it comes back from CBO having been scored," he said. "I'm looking for what the costing is on certain areas, and I'll make up my mind on the basis of that, I'm not establishing a line in the sand or a number. More important, as far as I'm concerned is, what actually is being covered and to what extent it is and how that generates costs."

Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.) said on Tuesday, "I've not promised anything to anybody," when it comes to cloture, Nolen reports.

Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.), another key moderate, said Tuesday she is "skeptical" of Reid's proposed plan.

"As you know, I have not been a supporter of a national government run option, but I'm going to stay opened to principled compromise," she said. "My ultimate vote will be based on how much this bill bends the cost curve downward so the government can save money both at the state and federal level, so families pay less and businesses pay less."

Leaders in the House of Representatives said Tuesday that Reid's inclusion of the public option in the Senate bill will help persuade some moderates in House to support a public option, CBS News Capitol Hill Producer Jill Jackson reports. House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said he would like to introduce a bill in the full House this week.

Progressive political activists, who pressured Reid to include the public option in the bill, are now aiming to convince Nelson, Landrieu and other moderate senators to support a cloture vote.

Members of the "Netroots" group MoveOn who have donated to Nelson's campaign delivered a letter today to his state offices in Nebraska. "If Senator Nelson joins with Republicans to block an up-or-down vote on a health care reform bill, as a past supporter I will refuse to support Senator Nelson's re-election," the letter says. Donors in Arkansas will stage a similar event on Thursday at Lincoln's offices.

"We will continue to work with progressive leaders in both chambers to make sure that the bill that lands on the president's desk includes a robust public option available everywhere, makes certain that health care is affordable for working families and covers those most in need," Justin Ruben, executive director of MoveOn.org Political Action said in a statement.

Watch today's Washington Unplugged below, where Bob Schieffer spoke with Senators Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Judd Gregg (R-N.H.) about the upcoming health care debate:




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by bart11114 November 7, 2009 2:59 PM EST
I've started a movement on Facebook called Recall Joe Lieberman, it's a movement to get the Connecticut General Assembly to pass a law that would allow a recall in Connecticut, and to get the Secretary of State of Connecticut to have a recall for Lieberman's senate seat. If you live in Connecticut please join. If you live in Connecticut but don't have a facebook get one.
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by fss2009 October 28, 2009 12:37 AM EDT
Republicans are the stupidest people on the planet. Even the Taliban has more sense than the Republicans. Talk about fringe crazies...
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by rightbehind October 28, 2009 12:48 AM EDT
The republicans are betting that the voters will be upset at the democrats and stay home during the election and the republicans might pick up more seats. I'm personally going to vote even more republicans and hopefully yellow dog "reagan democrats" out of office. Going in to 2010 the real democrats need to cut the yellow dogs loose and tell them to take their chances with the republicans. They are like barnacles. We don't need them.
by the74blaster October 28, 2009 12:08 AM EDT
Well it looks as though Liberman is going to profit from this.

Lets start a recall of Liberman.
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by rightbehind October 28, 2009 12:49 AM EDT
There you Go!! Need to get the ball rolling on that one! Connecticut needs to get the petitions going!
by Hank1000 October 27, 2009 11:50 PM EDT
Very sad. Lieberman used to be an honorable representative. But his collusion with the insurance industry to kill ANY real competition is disheartening at least and evil as worst. He will lose the next election even if he thinks he can hide until 2014. He has no party and if the Democratic party allows him to keep his important Senate seats they are nuttier than he is.

While insurance companies fund slime, folks die for lack of care..nice going Senator, hope you don't mind presiding over America's version of the holocaust.
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by stopoil October 27, 2009 10:53 PM EDT
Health care is a sad reflection on how little Americans care about other Americans.
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by rightbehind October 27, 2009 10:59 PM EDT
Actually it's an example of stupidity as well. Health care insurance is a phony baloney republican created market that provides absolutely no service to the patient. They also eat up 1 of every 3 dollars spent on health care. First in line to collect to. It's unreal that the kooks think freedom is lining a health care insurance ceo pocket.
by stn_sage October 27, 2009 11:05 PM EDT
Yes it is! Very sad! And, there's plenty of stupidity and waste in the health care industry...no doubt!
by apachekid October 27, 2009 10:51 PM EDT
Joe Lieberman Says He'll Block Reid's Health Care Bill ......

Joe you're a champion of The People. Thank you for having the courage, honesty & insight to stand up to HIM that speaks with forked tongue.

It is time for Obama to put aside the ACORN, Move On, GW, Anti Military, Anti Economy & Anti Semitic Politics that is failing to bring America together and get back to doing the REAL WORK of the Majority of People.

Is that asking tooo much? So Sad that we have an Empty Suit along With Congress in Washington. Looks like they'll have to exclude the press, the Repubs and have another behind closed doors secret discussion on Health Care. Trick no treat for The People. The Great Obama Care Scheme hosted by your Ghosts, Goblins & Witches Reid, Pelosi & Baucus.
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by rightbehind October 27, 2009 11:02 PM EDT
He's done. More than 68% of Connecticut want a robust strong public option.
by nirak2-2009 October 27, 2009 10:04 PM EDT
Leave it up to Loserman to deny Americans healthcare.
What is he still doind in the caucus anyhow? He should be turfed out
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by BuddyBeanbags October 27, 2009 10:03 PM EDT
Lieberman has sealed his fate... Connecticut will get rid of that butthole in his next election.
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by Lawyers-Guns-n-Money-01 October 27, 2009 8:55 PM EDT
by earth5661 October 27, 2009 8:18 PM EDT
Well,
non-genuis...
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That's twice. SInce I don't know what a genuis is and I'm fairly sure there is no such thing, I guess I'm a non-non-genuis.
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by stevex47 October 27, 2009 8:53 PM EDT
Joe, get your hand out of the pocket of the insurance companies, and do what the American public is telling you.
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by rightbehind October 27, 2009 11:06 PM EDT
The people of Connecticut should be looking at recalling him. He obviously is not representing the people who put him back in office. 68% of Connecticut want the public option. he's done. They should be recalling him. If i lived there I would looking for petitions to sign.
by briannorwood October 27, 2009 8:51 PM EDT
Do you think this pathetic little dweeb Lieberman is worried that without the mult-millions he gets to prop up his sorry butt from Connecticut-based health insurance companies might have something to do with this?

I wonder how those folks in Connecticut feel about their "independent" Senator now?

Should have kicked his "I love John McCain" out last time. I hope they don't get fooled again!
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by rightbehind October 27, 2009 11:07 PM EDT
They won't. He's done. I would be looking for petitions to recall him.
by Lawyers-Guns-n-Money-01 October 27, 2009 8:45 PM EDT
by earth5661 October 27, 2009 8:09 PM EDT
excoachken,

Did you actually coach kids ? Now I know why your an ex-coach
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Umm, I suggest switching back to Yiddish or German. At least then about 90% of the rest of the people reading your posts won't have a clue that you're illiterate.
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by tryhonesty October 27, 2009 8:39 PM EDT
You ALL need to take an honest look at what health care is costing you. If you are lucky enough to have health coverage at your work as I am, take a look at your premium cost history. The increase in your part of the premium cost and your company premium cost can not be sustained year after year. REMEMBER, the more cost to your company the less YOU have in take home pay. Health care reform without a Public Option aka COMPETITION, is a joke, and the BIG MONEY has turned many of you into cowards! The fear mongers such as Joe Ass are not American, but bought and paid for by the BIG MONEY who does not like competition. Be honest with yourselves, support real reform with a Public OPTION!
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by TheEnergyDoctor October 27, 2009 8:39 PM EDT
Obama says he gonna bring change to Govt. Easier said than done.

Obama needs to become Obama-da-Hammer and nail this bill down.

America has already exercised it's public-option...it got rid of G.Bush and elected Obama.
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by fedup12 October 27, 2009 8:18 PM EDT
ne1 else tired of the ol Jwe warmonger?
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by searingtruth October 27, 2009 8:12 PM EDT
"Our children suffered all we had proclaimed just."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave
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by searingtruth October 27, 2009 7:55 PM EDT
"Justice begins where we stand."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave
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by voxpopulus October 27, 2009 7:53 PM EDT
I don't know why Lieberman has even pretended to be anything other than a Republican for quite some time.
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by rightbehind October 27, 2009 11:10 PM EDT
Recall him! The people of Connecticut should be looking for petitions to sign and recall him.
by proudmilvet October 27, 2009 7:50 PM EDT
easeltine.... Your argument about Liberal Democrats never listening to the other side of the aisle is Pathetic at best & at worst a Lie. Who has opposed everything that President Obama says or does since day one? The Republicans! Who has verbally insulted President Obama on a 24/7 basis even before he was Inaugurated? Your own "Dear Leader" Rush Limbaugh & the other cast of Psychotic Clowns at the Republican propaganda machine, Fox News. Who shouted "You Lie" to the President during a speech to Congress? Republican Joe Wilson. Your Grand Old Party has no intention whatsoever of cooperating with President Obama & the Democrats on anything!
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by erich_1-2009 October 27, 2009 8:10 PM EDT
Proudmilvet,
I was just banned by this Liberal CBS News from one of my email addresses as easeltine. These guys just prove my point. President Obama won the Nobel Prize for doing nothing, and even he admitted that. President Clinton would have been a better candidate for his negotiations with Israel. You probably are with CBS the way you reacted here.
I didn't call President Obama a liar. He has been truthful from day 1 and everybody can open their eyes and see him for what he has proclaimed himself to be...a Marxist, SDS, Alinski-trained, Ayer's friend, Chicago 7, Chicago Organizer, Black Liberation Theology, Democrat.
I don't cooperate with Marxist, but there may be a way to draft a piece of Health Bill legislation that both Democrats and Republicans can be proud of. Not just shoving a Marxist/Socialist pc. of legislation down our throats!
by mld678 October 27, 2009 7:47 PM EDT
America needs to move forward ? one group continuously stands in the way. It?s time for MoveOn to Move Over! The group turned 11 this year, and has repeatedly been the source that drives American politics into the gutter. Stop embarrassing our nation, and move on. http://www.friendsoftheuschamber.com/moveover/
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by velma179 October 27, 2009 7:54 PM EDT
by mld678 October 27, 2009 7:47 PM EDT

Regarding your above copy and paste ( the ? marks give that away):

You a paid poster for the US Chamber of Commerce? That's fine, good to have a job.

And you also obviously, can voice your opinion.

But you don't get to determine what "drives American politics into the gutter" just because your ideology conflicts with a group that many Americans support.
by rightbehind October 27, 2009 11:13 PM EDT
There should be a law that requires paid lobbyist bloggers to identify themselves.
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