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September 25, 2009 4:35 PM

"Birther" Infomercial Hits the Airwaves

(CBS/Wikipedia)
The suspicion that President Obama was born outside of the United States has been written off as a conspiracy theory, but that hasn't stopped the so-called "birther" movement from keeping their theories alive.

A fundamentalist Christian Web site LivePrayer.com has produced a 28-minute infomercial dedicated to questioning where the president was born. It has run at least once on a CBS affiliate in Lubbock, Texas.

LivePrayer.com was founded by Christian minister Bill Keller, who committed his life to God after spending time in prison for insider trading, according to his site. The infomercial is also the work of attorney Gary Kreep, executive director of the birther group United States Justice Foundation, Talking Points Memo reports. He reportedly said the infomercial will run for at least two and a half weeks on stations around the country.

Mr. Obama has "vigorously fought.. to keep his birth information secret," Keller says in the program. "What is he hiding?"

The half hour spot encourages viewers to call a phone number to add their names to a list petitioning GOP leaders to "force President Obama to obey the law." In thanks for their support, viewers will receive a "Got a birth certificate?" bumper sticker. It also informs viewers that for just $30, they can have a fax sent on their behalf to all 50 state attorneys general and U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder demanding they force President Obama to supply his official State of Hawaii birth certificate.

"Join hundreds of thousands of Americans who simply want the truth," Keller says.

Keller may be right about the persistence of the rumor -- a recent poll showed that that 42 percent of Republicans believe Barack Obama was born outside of the United States while 22 percent said they were unsure.

And while the White House has, of course, dismissed the theory as "totally crazy," some Republicans have quietly perpetuated the myth. California Rep. John Campbell co-sponsored a bill (with at least nine others) requiring presidential candidates to submit a birth certificate and refused to give a straight answer when asked whether he believed the president was born in the United States.
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by sandy19731 October 18, 2009 5:22 PM EDT
Our educational system really needs to be improved. These birthers don't understand logic.
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by athiestdave October 7, 2009 3:56 PM EDT
From: Bill Keller <bkeller@liveprayer.com>
Sent: Wed, October 7, 2009 1:55:22 PM
Subject: Re: prayer
"Bill"??..LOL..you are not only a tool..but a delusional tool..Dr. Keller gets over 40,000 emails a DAY..most for prayer...there are 700 of us who answer them...he wouldn't waste 2 seconds of his precious time with a whackjob like you..and don't worry..you will take your last breath soon enough..like we all will..and at that moment..you will realize what a fool you were...enjoy..LOL!!


Know that I am praying for you, be richly blessed,
Bill Keller
Founder, www.liveprayer.com

To get Bill Keller's FREE Daily Devotional...sign up at the link below by
putting in your email address and look for the confirming email you must
reply to...

http://www.liveprayer.com/signup.cfm
----- Original Message -----



To: Bill Keller
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: prayer

LOL,

Thanks for the bite. I have forwarded the past three e-mails to news agencies. LOL

Oh yeah, if your not Bill, then why talk for him? lol Dr. huh? Since when do Dr.s work out of a used car dealership. haahhaha.

Oh and as far as my last breath....I lived through being shot at and bombed on, I have beaten cancer and live life to my fullest each day, so if I do "tale my last breath", I take gladly and am proud to be an athiest, who lived life, triumphed and will not have to spend eternity with you.

Funny how nasty you people get and how quick you bring up me "taking my last breath"...hahaha. Oh good gosh, you people make me laugh. Oh thanks for the new addition for the editor.

Take care,

Dave

_______________________________________________________________________________

From: Bill Keller <bkeller@liveprayer.com>
Sent: Wed, October 7, 2009 2:28:05 PM
Subject: Re: prayer
who cares..who are you?.....the only people who care about what you send would be some mindless blog with 5 readers who probably are as lost and hopeless as you...LOL..and you have done nothing but exist..sadly for you..your eternal existence will be in the lake of fire..at least you can't whine adn cry like a little girl that nobody told you..

Know that I am praying for you, be richly blessed,
Bill Keller
Founder, www.liveprayer.com

To get Bill Keller's FREE Daily Devotional...sign up at the link below by
putting in your email address and look for the confirming email you must
reply to....

http://www.liveprayer.com/signup.cfm




To: Bill Keller
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: prayer

lol.....you are a riot! I love gettin your feathers in a ruffle. Oh and perhaps you should read the news! Your organization is all over yahoo and other internet news sites that link your "birther video" to Mr Bill Keller as the producer and Liveprayer.com as the agency behind the video. So, you are wrong about who might be interested in Mr. Kellers responses. Soooo, hmmmm, you just might be wrong....about alot of things. :)

Makes you think twice about signing Bills name huh? lol

Take care,

Dave




________________________________________
From: Bill Keller <bkeller@liveprayer.com>
Sent: Wed, October 7, 2009 2:40:45 PM
Subject: Re: prayer
all emails go out under Dr. Keller's signature..jsut like in any organization..and LP simply produced the infomercial..too bad the press didn't take the time to find out the FACTS..that the legal group paid Liveprayer to produce the infomercial..they are the ones who get all the money from the infomercial..guess facts don't make for good stories..but you worry about the wrong things..at least you have been told the Truth..you will remember these conversations when you die my friend..you will have all eternity in hell to reflect on how smart you were..LOL..enjoy.


Know that I am praying for you, be richly blessed,
Bill Keller
Founder, www.liveprayer.com

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putting in your email address and look for the confirming email you must
reply to...

http://www.liveprayer.com/signup.cfm
----- Original Message -----



Ummmm actually when I die I probably wouln't remember anything.....because I'll be dead! Duh.

LOL

I love it how you people all get so violant when confronted. Proves my point about war being caused by religous freaks.

Keep on Keepin on friend.

Dave
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by athiestdave October 7, 2009 3:55 PM EDT
So I figured I would drop ?Dr. Keller? (must have picked up that degree in the jail cell to Dr. program offered at most prestigious incarceration centers) Live Prayer a e-mail.

Little did I know it would play out like this:

Check it out. Worth a few laughs.


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To: bkeller@liveprayer.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:56 AM
Subject: prayer

Thanks for reminding me why I hate religion so much. Don?t you people have anything better to do than attack a person based on their color and ethnicity. You guys make me laugh. You remind me of insecure 12 year old children. Have a great day.

Dave



From: Bill Keller <bkeller@liveprayer.com>
Sent: Wed, October 7, 2009 12:54:38 PM
Subject: Re: prayer
LOL..it has nothing to do with race..but the fact he is an enemy of God..but I guess in your book advancing the radical homosexual agenda..and killing babies makes him a great man..LOL!!.enjoy hell tool..

Know that I am praying for you, be richly blessed,
Bill Keller
Founder, www.liveprayer.com

To get Bill Keller's FREE Daily Devotional...sign up at the link below by
putting in your email address and look for the confirming email you must
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To: Bill Keller
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: prayer

LOL. Hell is a story book place which was brought to notoriety in the greatest novel ever written; the bible (I'll give you that, great book, well written
), I have read it in its entirety during my youth. My favorite part of the novel was that the world was created in 7 days..... wow... hmmm...duh.. Anyway, if I have a choice between heaven (where I would have to spend eternity with yahoos like you) and between hell. I will pick hell thank you. Oh and what is wrong with homosexuality? Aren?t you people supposed to forgive and accept and to "do unto others as you would...." LOL. Typical religious hype. You are so scared of not knowing what is after death that you have to grasp something to calm your mind. hehe. That?s fine, I pondered about that when I was over in the first gulf war, I came to my conclusion and I have respected others choices as well. Although its times like these where you use your religion for a political purpose or your own belief in "what everyone should believe" that I speak out against your views. Remember the crusades? How many people where burned at the stake for not accepting Christianity. LOL yeah I could see you up there saying "repent tool, or be burnt at ye old stake".

You guys crack me up. The fact that you declare he is an enemy of god? hahahaha....... holy ****!!!! Your god is dead, never existed. Prove god is real and then you can make a statement like "he is the enemy of god". lol

Baby Killer? OMG your the person with choose life and project 9-12 bumper stickers,.... aren?t you? Yep that?s what I thought. You ever heard of personnel choice? Oh, that?s rite, no one should have personnel choice in your belief. Everyone should walk around obeying their master.

Oh and the term "tool" you called me. haahah. Not very Christian like of you!

So anyway, you don't bother me by telling me I'm going to hell, you don't confuse me by telling me I'm going to hell in one sentence and then tell me you'll be praying for me and that you hope I'm richly blessed in the next. hhahaha. You ever think about getting on meds bud? Might help you out. Sounds like your having a little MH issues.

Oh and back to the main topic. The state of Hawaii verified Obama?s birth certificate. Period. Bush was an alcoholic, AWOL from the service, a disgrace to the armed forces, Most unpopular president in history and responsible for thousands of deaths, and was just dumber than dirt. I mean common it took the guy how many years to get his degree. Where where you speaking out against that "enemy of god". Oh I get it, if you say "Im a christian and I do my work in gods name" then you a decent person. lol.

Well Bill, You my friend are an idiot, a special kind of idiot. I am sure "heaven" holds a very special place for you my little friend. Who knows, maybe I'll see you in hell when all your little skeletons in the closet are brought to St Pauls attention before your let into that special club called heaven.

LOL. Good luck with life tool. Long live Obama and his agenda!!! Down with God!

Sincerely,

Dave
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by judge9999 September 30, 2009 7:43 AM EDT
PREMISE: All ponzi schemers and other wall-street crooks, birthers, democratic election nullifiers, bigots, and right-left wing freaks, have genetic defects.

All Native Americans (for the above?American Indians) should push for a re-do on European migration. Remembering that many Europeans who came here were escaping from the law of their native land; criminals, perhaps similar to the above. Let us screen all the above for genetic defects. For those showing defects, remove their implied American citizenship and return them to the land of their origin. Of course we need to keep the good ones, which no doubt would be 90+ percent of some 300,000,000.
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by jeezloweez September 30, 2009 6:22 AM EDT
The address of Bill Keller's ministry is:
Liveprayer
6660 46th Avenue North
St. Petersburg, Florida 33709

666!!!??! Don't you people see it? Bill Keller is the devil! Why else would he have that address?? He needs to prove he's not the devil before I will believe anything he says.
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by actornaught September 28, 2009 7:46 AM EDT
THIS is funny stuff for the fact that it's just another come on to take money from fools. Send in your $30! You did? YOU have been PUNKED!!
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by actornaught September 27, 2009 6:59 PM EDT
by old1oncnet September 27, 2009 6:26 PM EDT

Same old same old race paranoia.

"trying to protect 223 years of American culture"???

So you only ride a horse and wear puffy shirts, leggings and knickers? You must go to a barber when you're sick to have the bad humors bled out.
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by old1oncnet September 27, 2009 6:26 PM EDT
Hard to deny the truth. Not a racist, just a concerned American trying to protect 223 years of American culture and politics. If you have two American citizen parents at the time of your birth, that birth is on American Soil, and you have no ties to any foreign governments, you can consider yourself a Natural Born American Citizen.

But if your daddy was a Kenyan, Brit under the British Nationality Act of 1948, which caused you to be born a British subject at the moment of your birth, you can NEVER be considered a Natural Born American Citizen.

Citizen and Natural Born American Citizen, are not today nor were they in 1787, the same thing. A president has to be a Natural Born American Citizen (see John Jay's letter to George Washington dealing with Natural Born). There are questions whether Barack Hussein Obama is a citizen of the United States of America. But anyone who has been awake a day in the last 12 months knows he can never be considered a Natural Born American Citizen with a foreign father and citizenship allegiance to England from birth.

Those that post against these facts are simply trying to uphold this farce to push forward their Communist Agenda. Communism is alive and well in our America today. It controls our MSM and institutions of education. Either we fight and destroy it today or it will forever change our America and our lives and families. Join the fight today or watch your future world become the United Socialist States of Planet Earth. Then Bow Down to the Grand Supreme Leader. The end of Freedom will be upon us.
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by actornaught September 27, 2009 5:38 PM EDT
by borderhawk September 27, 2009 4:22 PM EDT
actornaught, there is nothing more important than defending the US Constitution.
...

But that's NOT what the birthers are doing. They harass the Hawaiian records office for one thing over & over, ad nauseum. And NO proof or testamonial matters. The point isn't about proving anything. The point is to endlessly yap about how much birthers hate BHO. And the genesis of it is based purely on entertainers & goofballs.

Protect the Constitution? Just an empty slogan, or you'd be marching in the streets over patriot act domestic spying & Guantanamo...
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by borderhawk September 27, 2009 4:24 PM EDT
Neither the HI COLB, nor a passport based on it, can be used to differentiate between a native citizen, a natural born citizen, or a naturalized citizen. Only on examination of the vital statistic record(s),
and/or a certified copy of the vital statistic record(s), can a determination of the category of citizenship be ascertained.
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by borderhawk September 27, 2009 4:19 PM EDT
FactCheck only confuses.

RE: Born in the U.S.A.?
RE: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Reply:
Yes, so what if you can get a US State Department passport, good for international travel, using the Hawaii COLB? But, the passport only identifies the bearer as a US citizen, subject to the US Constitution, and all laws and treaties there under.

However, neither the Hawaii COLB, nor a passport based on it, can be used to differentiate between a native citizen, a natural born citizen, or a naturalized citizen.

Only on examination of the vital statistic record(s), and/or a certified copy of the vital statistic record(s), can a determination of the category of citizenship be ascertained.

But, the question remains, what vital statistic records or certified documents were used by the Democratic National Committee to vet Barack Obama for the office of POTUS?
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by stuart-johns September 27, 2009 8:17 AM EDT
by ElainaVer September 27, 2009 6:32 AM EDT

It does'nt much matter how it started out. It now is a clearly republican extremist entity...or fantasy. The democrats have NOTHING to do with the Birthers.
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by actornaught September 26, 2009 9:37 PM EDT
by payback108 September 26, 2009 8:52 PM EDT
Anything that drivers obamabots nuts I like
....

nuts you like? The only nut-drivers are your entertainers, and YOU are the driven.
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by cakemanjb September 26, 2009 9:23 PM EDT
Of all people , these Birthers should be screaming for Health Care reform because , they certainly have major Mental Issues.
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by velma179 September 26, 2009 8:35 PM EDT
Have any of you "birthers" ever considered that Barack Obama may not have been born in a hospital. Hawaii was not a cosmopolitan center in the early 1960's -- it was a new state and quite rural in make up and attitude (in some cases, it STILL is, by the way).

This is not a rare occurrence, though it isn't the "norm".

Children have been born at home, often with the assistance of a mid-wife, sometimes a physician (yep, they actually DID once do house calls). Children have been born in cars and taxi cabs, they have been born on sidewalks and in forests and in buildings and stores... you get the point.

Well, people who think things through will get the point.

Of course, in order for a hospital or registrar to certify the birth, the child would have to be presented immediately -- so don't go getting crazier (as if you COULD...) thinking about this. They do know their job!

The FACT is that the US State Department has accepted Mr. Obama's documentation of citizenship. You will need to remember that this was accomplished during the previous Republican administration.

You will have to call everyone associated a liar in order to call Mr. Obama one. And as for calling out journalists that don't serve your fantasies and prejudices -- they do their job just fine. They just don't care to investigate flimsy paranoia and institutional idiocy.

The election didn't go your way... and the majority of American citizens think you are nothing but nutty and sore losers who keep repeating points that have been disproved over and over -- you need to care about your own life and circumstance and get on with it.

PS -- The only reason this article above is interesting at all is because it reveals the actions of a con artist who is preying on folks like you. You can con a "con"... always been true.
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by ErnestNM September 26, 2009 10:27 PM EDT
by velma179 September 26, 2009 8:35 PM EDT

...And as for calling out journalists that don't serve your fantasies and prejudices -- they do their job just fine. They just don't care to investigate flimsy paranoia and institutional idiocy...

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The one consistent condition of the far-right-fringe is that they are very, very 'Paranoid'!

They actually need Health Care Reform more than the average person.

In fact, it is in the best interest of the country as a whole to get them the psychological treatment they urgently need to treat their rampant disease.
by payback108 September 26, 2009 8:17 PM EDT
I like only becouse it drives obamabots nuts
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by margieme September 26, 2009 6:43 PM EDT
It blows my mind, people do not know who is a natural Born Citizen. A native or natural born are those born in a country to citizen parents.Regardless where Obama, then adopted by Soetoro aka another non American Citizen, can not produce a natural Born American Citizen. The Fore Fathers were quite wise. Allegance to America was what they saught. I am disgusted by the ignorance in America. We are a Repulic, bound by laws. No one of any color is above the law.
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by mossback1954 September 26, 2009 3:17 PM EDT
"The suspicion that President Obama was born outside of the United States has been written off as a conspiracy theory, but that hasn't stopped the so-called "birther" movement from keeping their theories alive'.

Seems the news media loves to keep it alive also. They keep on printing articles about it. Geez
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by ElainaVer September 26, 2009 3:06 PM EDT
Even IF Obama were born here in the U.S., he is still hiding his past from the American public. President Reagan was born in a little apartment up over a bar, but there is still a plaque at that location to announce to the world that 'a U.S. President was born here.' My grandson is Mixed, like Obama. So, where can I take him to see the plaque on the wall that says 'the first Mixed Race U.S. President was born here.' Kids are taught to sing about Obama in school, but NO history on the hospital that has the honor of heralding his birth into the world? And what about the Doctor? I know that President Bush was delivered by a female Gynacologist (which was probably quite rare in the 1940's). There is a booklet of info all about the Doctor at the Hospital where Bush was born. President Carter's birth hospital changed their name to honor his MOTHER! One would think the Hospital that birthed Obama might want to do the same, or at least hang a plaque on the wall, or have a booklet of info about the attending Physician who first laid eyes on America's beloved President. What should I tell my Grandson about the proud Physician who had the great honor to deliver America's first Black President? That Obama won't share that info with him???

Obama is no longer a private citizen - he belongs to America and so does his past history, just like all the Presidents before him.

Obama is the first President ever, to hide the vital statistics and pertinent information that Americans like to know in order to visit historic sites and discuss and share the history that was made there. I still remember my trips as a child, to visit various Presidents' birthplaces - even the birthplace of Abe Lincoln! That is so bizarre: I have visited the log cabin where Abe supposedly was born, but in 2009, in the Age of Technology, there is no valid information about America's history-making first Black President's birthplace or birth physician. And Obama spends time and money to ensure that we Americans will NOT find it out. I just wish he would tell me what to say to my Grandson. . . .
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by ErnestNM September 26, 2009 4:10 PM EDT
by ElainaVer September 26, 2009 3:06 PM EDT

...but in 2009, in the Age of Technology, there is no valid information about America's history-making first Black President's birthplace or birth physician. And Obama spends time and money to ensure that we Americans will NOT find it out. I just wish he would tell me what to say to my Grandson....

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From FactCheck.org at http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate.

We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship.

Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false.

We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article.

Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.
by mossback1954 September 26, 2009 4:14 PM EDT
ElainaVer..Unfortunately your grandson may never know which IS sad.
With your grandson being of mixed race and being raised in a era of a president of mixed race, he (your grandson) would grow up proud of his heritage and know, if another of an mixed race can achieve a position of President, he (your grandson) can acheieve anything too.
by ElainaVer September 26, 2009 5:35 PM EDT
Ernest, does FactCheck (or Obama's Ceritification - which is not his original birth certificate) show the Hospital or physician? Only his long-form Birth Certificate (not Certification) will show those two facts.
by ElainaVer September 26, 2009 5:36 PM EDT
Ernest, does FactCheck (or Obama's Ceritification - which is not his original birth certificate) show the Hospital or physician? Only his long-form Birth Certificate (not Certification) will show those two facts.
by johndevinejr September 26, 2009 2:59 PM EDT
by BucknDooney September 26, 2009 10:59 AM EDT
I absolutely love it too. We need to keep that question at the forefront of public awareness!

The man sitting in the White House has now described himself as a CITIZEN OF THE WORLD


Buckin Looney

You are an idiot republican.
Sorry to be redundant
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