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August 13, 2009 8:57 AM

Politics Today: Unusual Allies in Health Reform Debate

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HEALTH CARE: Today, as heated town meetings on health care reform continue around the country, President Obama keeps a low profile at the White House in preparation for two of his own town meetings tomorrow and Saturday. He'll head to Montana tomorrow, where protestors promise to show up – outside the venue, at least.

Politico's Mike Allen reports that pro-health reform groups are hitting back on TV beginning today.

"A new coalition on Thursday is launching $12 million in television ads to support President Barack Obama’s health-reform plan, in the opening wave of a planned tens of millions of dollars this fall.

"The new group, funded largely by the pharmaceutical industry, is called Americans for Stable Quality Care. It includes some odd bedfellows: the American Medical Association, FamiliesUSA, the Federation of American Hospitals, PhRMA and SEIU, the service employees’ union…

"The debut ad is meant to shore up support among the conservative House Blue Dog Democrats, and to target swing senators. So it’s airing in Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Indiana, Louisiana, Maine, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, North Dakota, South Dakota and Virginia. The first buy is expected to run for two weeks, with a weekly spend of around $3 million.

"The first ad is called, 'Mean for You,' as in, 'What Reforms Means for You.' The 30-second script, with a soothing male narrator: 'What DOES health insurance reform mean for you? It means you can’t be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition, or dropped if you get sick. It means putting health-care decisions in the hands of you and your doctor. It means lower costs, a cap on out-of-pocket expenses, tough new rules to cut waste and red tape, and a focus on PREVENTING illness before it strikes. So what does health insurance reform really mean? Quality, affordable care you can count on.'”

Watch the ad here.

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin weighed in on her Facebook page late last night after stirring the pot by accusing the Democrats of pushing a "'death panel' so [Mr. Obama's] bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society,' whether [the sick, seniors or the disabled] are worthy of health care."

She changed her language in her most recent post, countering the president's argument that health care won't be "rationed."

"Of course, it’s not just this one provision that presents a problem," Palin writes. "My original comments concerned statements made by Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, a health policy advisor to President Obama and the brother of the President’s chief of staff. Dr. Emanuel has written that some medical services should not be guaranteed to those 'who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens....An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia.' Dr. Emanuel has also advocated basing medical decisions on a system which “produces a priority curve on which individuals aged between roughly 15 and 40 years get the most chance, whereas the youngest and oldest people get chances that are attenuated.'

"President Obama can try to gloss over the effects of government authorized end-of-life consultations, but the views of one of his top health care advisors are clear enough. It’s all just more evidence that the Democratic legislative proposals will lead to health care rationing, and more evidence that the top-down plans of government bureaucrats will never result in real health care reform."

Wall Street Journal's Janet Adamy, "End-of-Life Provision Loses Favor"

McClatchy Newspapers' Halimah Abdullah, "How a GOP senator's proposal gave rise to 'death panels'"

Wall Street Journal's Naftali Bendavid, "Emanuel's Brother Becomes a Target"

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Meantime, the New York Times reports that although the president likes to present himself as above the fray of the legislative process, he is actually intimately involved with Congress in helping shape this legislation.

"In pursuing his proposed overhaul of the health care system, President Obama has consistently presented himself as aloof from the legislative fray, merely offering broad principles. Prominent among them is the creation of a strong, government-run insurance plan to compete with private insurers and press for lower costs.

"Behind the scenes, however, Mr. Obama and his advisers have been quite active, sometimes negotiating deals with a degree of cold-eyed political realism potentially at odds with the president’s rhetoric," the Times' David D. Kirkpatrick writes.

"Mr. Obama and his top aides have immersed themselves in the Senate Finance Committee process. The president talks to Mr. Baucus several times a week, people briefed on their conversations say. Mr. Obama has also held a few calls with the panel’s ranking Republican, Senator Charles E. Grassley of Iowa…

"Nancy-Ann DeParle, charged with leading the White House health effort, has a standing biweekly meeting with Mr. Baucus, while Peter R. Orszag, the White House budget director, has spent so much time in the senator’s office that he helps himself to the Coke Zeros tucked away in Mr. Baucus’s personal refrigerator.

"Lobbyists for the drug and hospital industries say that, as early as June, White House officials directed them to work out cost-saving deals with Mr. Baucus’s committee. Drug industry lobbyists said they negotiated a deal to contribute $80 billion over 10 years toward the cost of an overhaul with Mr. Baucus, under White House supervision, before taking it to the president for final approval. House lawmakers have said they were caught by surprise when it was announced.

Washington Post's Karla Adam, "Health-Reform Rhetoric Gets Personal for Britons"

CBSNews.com's Brian Montopoli rounds up yesterday's most interesting town meetings from around the country: "Anger Keeps Coming at Latest Town Halls"

CBS News' Ben Tracy, "Who's Behind the Angry Town Halls?"

Associated Press' Erica Werner, "Just who are these health care protestors?"

House Minority Leader John Boehner's op-ed in USA Today, "Americans aren't going to buy health care spin, Mr. President"

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TED KENNEDY: "Rep. Patrick Kennedy says there's been an unexpected bright side to his father's grim battle with terminal brain cancer because the family has been able to spend more time with the stricken senator in recent months," reports the Associated Press' Andrew Miga.

"'It's been a chance for us to bond and be together and share a special time together that we would never have had together had he been taken from us,' said Kennedy, D-R.I. 'That's a big gift. (It) let us have the chance to tell him how much we love him. And him to be there to hear it.'

"Kennedy said he's spent most days this summer with his father sitting on the porch of their oceanside home in Hyannis Port, Mass., sharing old stories about family, friends and politics.

"'In a different sense, it has been a very joyous time because we have had so much more time than any of the doctors had predicted,' Kennedy said."

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DICK CHENEY: "In his first few months after leaving office, former vice president Richard B. Cheney threw himself into public combat against the 'far left' agenda of the new commander in chief. More private reflections, as his memoir takes shape in slashing longhand on legal pads, have opened a second front against Cheney's White House partner of eight years, George W. Bush," reports the Washington Post's Barton Gellman.

"Cheney's disappointment with the former president surfaced recently in one of the informal conversations he is holding to discuss the book with authors, diplomats, policy experts and past colleagues. By habit, he listens more than he talks, but Cheney broke form when asked about his regrets.

"'In the second term, he felt Bush was moving away from him,' said a participant in the recent gathering, describing Cheney's reply. 'He said Bush was shackled by the public reaction and the criticism he took. Bush was more malleable to that. The implication was that Bush had gone soft on him, or rather Bush had hardened against Cheney's advice. He'd showed an independence that Cheney didn't see coming. It was clear that Cheney's doctrine was cast-iron strength at all times -- never apologize, never explain -- and Bush moved toward the conciliatory.'"

ALSO TODAY: Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who's been talked about as a potential 2012 presidential candidate, speaks at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington, D.C. Topic: "How to bring real change to the way federal, state and local governments prepare their budgets."

AFGHANISTAN

McClatchy Newspapers' Jonathan S. Landay and Nancy A. Youssef, "U.S. mulls pulling troops from remote Afghan outposts"

Washington Post's Ann Scott Tyson, "In Afghanistan, A Test of Tactics"

Politico's Eamon Javers and Zachary Abrahamson, "Barack Obama's words downplay wars"

FOREIGN POLICY

Wall Street Journal's Will Connors, "Clinton Urges Overhaul of Nigeria Elections"

NY Times' Jeffrey Gettleman, "Clinton's Flash of Pique in Congo"

GITMO DETAINEES

Detroit News' Karen Bouffard, "Standish prison to get fed visit"

NY Times' Susan Saulny, "Michigan Prison Is Considered for Detainees"

STIMULUS

USA Today's Matt Kelley and Brad Heath, "Some states get share of stimulus faster"

KARL ROVE / U.S. ATTORNEYS

Associated Press' Matt Apuzzo, "In attorneys probe, one burning question"

PRESIDENT OBAMA

Bloomberg News' John McCormick and Hans Nichols, "Obama May Risk Prestige to Boost Chicago's Bid to Host Olympics"

Washington Post's Dan Eggen, "Presidential Vacations Carry Heavy Baggage"

GOV. MARK SANFORD

The State's Gina Smith, "Governor says his future not in politics"

FUTURE RACES

2009 NJ Governor: Newark Star-Ledger's Claire Heininger and Josh Margolin, "Chris Christie ranked by Bush administration officials as 'loyal' U.S. Attorney, documents show"

2009 NJ Governor: NY Times' David M. Halbfinger, "Developer's Plea Deal Shadows Christie"

2009 VA Governor: Washington Post's Anita Kumar, "McDonnell Embraces Drug Courts, Lifetime Sex Offender Tracking"

2010 FL Senate: CQ Politics' Greg Giroux, "Precedent For Gov. Crist's Unusual Appointment?"

2010 FL Senate: St. Petersburg Times' Marc Caputo, "Ring, ring. The new conservative Charlie Crist is calling."

2010 NV Senate: Politics Daily's Jill Lawrence, "Nineteen Minutes In a Car With Harry Reid"

2010 PA Senate: Washington Post's Chris Cillizza, "At Town Hall, A Turning Point?"

2012 Presidential: Fox News' Greta Van Susteren, "Santorum on Iowa Trip and 2012 Rumors: 'I'm Very Concerned About America Right Now'"
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by endurorob August 13, 2009 11:50 AM EDT
jon2012-2009 August 13, 2009 11:28 AM EDT
Hold your horses. If Obama's reform does pass and it's far short of we have demanded, it wouldn't be a real accomplishment. Obama has staked his administration in this. I think he's serious. But we may not get all of what we want right away.



Seems to me that as for as the liberals are concerned anything short of the public option (gateway to single payer socialism) will be a failure.
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by endurorob August 13, 2009 11:40 AM EDT
mattcat25 August 13, 2009 11:33 AM EDT
All Senior Citizens are currently and have been on Socialized Healthcare, Medicare is the System that should be expanded to allow for any American the opportunity to participate in.

Gramma dies people lie, is just making GOP proponents insignificant to this debate.



If they are so insignificant then why is support dwindling day by day. I do support medicare for the elderly that have paid into it for their entire lives (by the way it is not free. My mother in law is on medicare and her premiums just for her are higher than my retired military Tricare family plan premiums) but Ido not support the same thing for those who are young enough and able to provide for themselves. I do however support minimul government regulation to control the costs of medical care and the cost of insurance.
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by zonkzilla August 13, 2009 11:35 AM EDT
I would hardly call Limbaugh,Hannity, Beck and Bin Ladin unusual allies since they all have the same goal to disrupt and destroy the US and "make the US President fail".
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by TheMasses2016 August 13, 2009 12:01 PM EDT
I remember when your pop fought Gorosaurusu.
Neither of them would have agreed with your statement.
by mattcat25 August 13, 2009 11:29 AM EDT
The United States will have the best modern Single Payer HealthCare System with high technology and science equal too, or exceeding any other HealthCare System in the World.

The US will also become Energy Independent utilizing new technology and business models that will produce profits and increase the living standards of all Americans.

The time has come for change and progress for our nation. Antiquated Technology and Ideology need to be discarded along with the stagnant and retro mindset of the Republican Party.
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by endurorob August 13, 2009 11:27 AM EDT
mattcat25 August 13, 2009 11:20 AM EDT
I can't believe that only 3 Republican Senators are standing in the way of our entire nations Health.

And, the GOP has rendered themselves as is the Party of lies.



If you read into what is posted out there, although death panels is quite an exageration, the bill does open the door for influencing the elderly and infirmed to take steps that would be less costly but also shoprten their lives for the good of the rest.
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by mattcat25 August 13, 2009 11:33 AM EDT
All Senior Citizens are currently and have been on Socialized Healthcare, Medicare is the System that should be expanded to allow for any American the opportunity to participate in.

Gramma dies people lie, is just making GOP proponents insignificant to this debate.
by endurorob August 13, 2009 11:13 AM EDT
mattcat25 August 13, 2009 11:09 AM EDT
This not the truth, Republicans in Congress have negated to participate in HealthCare Reform, can't debate the issues, nor add any of their own alternatives or improvements.



That is just a flat out lie Cat. The committee of six has 3 repubs and the repubs came up with their own version of a health care bill but you lefties dismiss it because it is not all about giving free care to all including illegals and doesn't provide a provisions that paves the way for the government to destroy private industry.
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by mattcat25 August 13, 2009 11:20 AM EDT
I can't believe that only 3 Republican Senators are standing in the way of our entire nations Health.

And, the GOP has rendered themselves as is the Party of lies.
by endurorob August 13, 2009 11:09 AM EDT
woeisme1 August 13, 2009 11:08 AM EDT
rightbehind may not be a paid political hack but you, endurorob, certainly are a hack for the extremists and their fascist agenda



Oh good. Another uniformed bigot.
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by endurorob August 13, 2009 11:20 AM EDT
Sorry, un-informed not uniformed.
by endurorob August 13, 2009 11:00 AM EDT
debinok1 August 13, 2009 10:45 AM EDT
Hungry,
I want to see ALL OF THE DRAFTS, I want to see what EVERYONE is suggesting. That is NOT the final bill it is a draft only. Another thing while we are on the subject, once it is a BILL an actual BILL, we should have time to read it, understand it, and speak with our representatives BEFORE it is put to a vote.



i wrote an opinion on this the other day. What they (Obama and the dems) will do is once recess is over they will put what they want in the bill say everyone had a chance to debate and voice their concerns over the recess and then push through what they want. You will not get a chance to see the final version befor they vote on it. So my recomendation is everyone contact their reps and tell them you want the bill posted on a public site for a minimum of a week before it is voted on.
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by endurorob August 13, 2009 10:56 AM EDT
hungry1968-16 August 13, 2009 10:34 AM EDT
by endurorob August 13, 2009 10:25 AM EDT

If this bill does pass (doubtful)it will be without the public option.







If it passes WITHOUT a public option, you can expect that the HMO's are going to start charging $25,000 per year for family coverage, and $20,000 for single.

And America's businesses will drop health care coverage for their employees inside of one year because of it.




There will be no need for them to increase premiums because the government will force everyone to get health care whether they want it or not and if you don't sign up they will sign you up and tax you.
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by rightbehind August 13, 2009 10:50 AM EDT
Vote health care reform with a strong public option straight up or down. It is the only thing that will hold the health care industry in check. The democrats created both social security and medicare. The republicans are trying to kill social security and are helping to loot medicare. Vote strong public health care straight up or down then we have the opportunity to clean up our ranks. The 2010 elections are just 15 months away. The timing is perfect. We win either way. We either get strong public health care or a list of politicians to send packing. We might get both!
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by thusspokezara August 13, 2009 10:45 AM EDT
Democrats have long permitted killing at the beginning of life (in the name of choice) and now are promoting killing at the end of life (in the name of choice). The Democratic Party formerly the party of the Slavocracy is now the party of Dependence, Depravity, and Death.
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by DaBroiler August 13, 2009 10:56 AM EDT
Obama lies, Grandma dies.
by mattcat25 August 13, 2009 11:11 AM EDT
GOP the Party of NO HEALTHCARE.
by jon2012-2009 August 13, 2009 11:43 AM EDT
See, I thought thusspokezara has something going on in her head. Being out of touch with reality can be predisposed by events in one's life experiences. In this case, religion.
by jon2012-2009 August 13, 2009 11:52 AM EDT
by DaBroiler August 13, 2009 10:56 AM EDT
Obama lies, Grandma dies.
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Our health care delivers the worst life expectancy of any developed country. Euthanasia, if that is your issue here, is more likely occurring in the U.S. than elsewhere at the present time. Has been for 50 years, in fact.

Give this reform a chance. Where there is a public option, not only do health care costs come down--50%, if you can believe those Canadians and French and British, and Germans, etc., but their longevities improve. Grandma and grandpa actually live longer in those countries whose example the U.S. may soon follow.
by flsunjnky August 13, 2009 10:41 AM EDT
We pay more for health care than anyone else in developed countries, yet life expectancy in Bosnia and Herzegovina is greater than in the U.S.

Our health care system is an example of How Not to develop a health care system.

This should be a no brainer!
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by DaBroiler August 13, 2009 10:55 AM EDT
"We pay more for health care than anyone else in developed countries, yet life expectancy in Bosnia and Herzegovina is greater than in the U.S."

Maybe they eat better and exercise more than our lazy, fat-a$$ people?
by slownewsday_5 August 13, 2009 11:12 AM EDT
Exactly, DaBroiler.

I surely hope you don't eat red meat, if you ever want to be held accountable for not having a healthy colon.

Just how far are you willing to go to put yourself in the "takes care of yourself" category?? Have you reeaaally thought that one through??

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by jon2012-2009 August 13, 2009 11:37 AM EDT
by DaBroiler August 13, 2009 10:55 AM EDT
"We pay more for health care than anyone else in developed countries, yet life expectancy in Bosnia and Herzegovina is greater than in the U.S."

Maybe they eat better and exercise more than our lazy, fat-a$$ people?
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Maybe this...maybe that. How about real facts? We are #37 in WHO ranking of health care around the world, the worst infant mortality and hospital mistakes that result in patient deaths among industrialized countries. Worse survival rates for breast and cervical cancer than other developed countries. Same for asthma. Our health care system is a stinker. End of story.
by hungry1968-16 August 13, 2009 10:34 AM EDT
by endurorob August 13, 2009 10:25 AM EDT

If this bill does pass (doubtful)it will be without the public option.







If it passes WITHOUT a public option, you can expect that the HMO's are going to start charging $25,000 per year for family coverage, and $20,000 for single.

And America's businesses will drop health care coverage for their employees inside of one year because of it.
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by debinok1 August 13, 2009 10:32 AM EDT
They keep saying "that isn't in the bill" or this isn't in the bill" how about putting the drafts of these bills out where the public can see them. In this day and age with internet and all, it is very easy to upload those drafts and let people read for themselves what is being proposed for the bill. Upload them, let us read them. After all this is OUR HEALTH CARE they are messing with. Why all the secrets?
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by hungry1968-16 August 13, 2009 10:36 AM EDT
Are you kidding? It's been posted FOR MONTHS:

http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090714/aahca.pdf
by debinok1 August 13, 2009 10:45 AM EDT
Hungry,
I want to see ALL OF THE DRAFTS, I want to see what EVERYONE is suggesting. That is NOT the final bill it is a draft only. Another thing while we are on the subject, once it is a BILL an actual BILL, we should have time to read it, understand it, and speak with our representatives BEFORE it is put to a vote.

And btw, HR 3200 is NOT a new bill, it was proposed in 2007-2008 and failed. They may have made changes here and there and tweeked it a bit, but it is not NEW.
by endurorob August 13, 2009 10:29 AM EDT
ABM_21 August 13, 2009 10:28 AM EDT
MOre scare tactics. Here in COlumbus, the town hall meeting was inundated with false information and outright lies, not to mention an unhealthy dose of yelling and screaming.


They you need to elect a new representative that is more honest and less emotional.
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by endurorob August 13, 2009 10:28 AM EDT
Does anyone else find it odd that big pharma is backing this bill and have had back room meetings with the White House. I do find it strange the White House is having backroom meetings after Obama promised transperency.
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by debinok1 August 13, 2009 10:37 AM EDT
I find it scary that big pharma the AMA, The Federation of American Hospitals, and the Service Employees Union are backing this. These are PROFIT driven organizations, they would NEVER back something that would affect their PROFIT. So either they have been promised that their profits are not at stake or they have had a hand in writing to Drafts to MAKE SURE their profits are not at stake, either way we are screwed.
by jon2012-2009 August 13, 2009 11:28 AM EDT
Hold your horses. If Obama's reform does pass and it's far short of we have demanded, it wouldn't be a real accomplishment. Obama has staked his administration in this. I think he's serious. But we may not get all of what we want right away.
by ABM_21 August 13, 2009 10:28 AM EDT
MOre scare tactics. Here in COlumbus, the town hall meeting was inundated with false information and outright lies, not to mention an unhealthy dose of yelling and screaming. The far right's plan for health care: If you don't have the insurance that I have, tough. Being one of the people forced into bankruptcy thanks in large part to medical bills, I firmly believe the president is right on point. All of these scare tactics designed to derail something Americans really need is more proof of just how out of touch with the mainstream the far right is. This is sad...
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by jon2012-2009 August 13, 2009 11:22 AM EDT
I think when ideology and lies collide with economic reality, that reality will prevail. Let's hope it happens sooner than later because the our economic future is at stake.
by endurorob August 13, 2009 10:27 AM EDT
rightbehind August 13, 2009 10:18 AM EDT
Are you a paid political hack??


Are you?
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by rightbehind August 13, 2009 10:43 AM EDT
No
by woeisme1 August 13, 2009 11:08 AM EDT
rightbehind may not be a paid political hack but you, endurorob, certainly are a hack for the extremists and their fascist agenda.
by endurorob August 13, 2009 10:25 AM EDT
rightbehind August 13, 2009 10:12 AM EDT
Allies or not the public option better be in the bill. It's in the best interest of all and is the only thing that will hold any gains in check. Vote public health care straight up or down. Then we the voters have a choice 15 months from now.



If this bill does pass (doubtful)it will be without the public option.
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by rightbehind August 13, 2009 10:12 AM EDT
Allies or not the public option better be in the bill. It's in the best interest of all and is the only thing that will hold any gains in check. Vote public health care straight up or down. Then we the voters have a choice 15 months from now.
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