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July 30, 2009 8:01 PM

Crowley: Gates and I "Agreed To Disagree"

(CBS)
Cambridge police sergeant James Crowley told reporters following his White House meeting with Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Thursday that he and Gates had a "cordial and productive discussion" in which they "agreed to disagree."

Crowley, the officer whose arrest of Gates in his own home set off a racial uproar stoked when President Obama suggested his department had acted "stupidly," said he and the professor had "agreed to move forward."

Crowley said no apologies were offered at the meeting. He described it as "a positive step" and said the two men did not spend time "reliving the events of the past few weeks."

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He said the two men "have agreed that both perspectives should be addressed" in efforts to turn the incident into a constructive one – a "teachable moment," as the president put it.

(CBS)
"We spent a lot of time discussing the future," he said.

Asked what President Obama brought to the discussion, Crowley deadpanned, "he provided the beer." He added that the president "contributed in a small part, but he wanted to bring two people together."

Crowley said there was "no tension" at the meeting, and that the two men and their families toured the White House together before sitting down for beers.

He told reporters that he and Gates had agreed to meet again, though he did not disclose the location of that meeting. The sergeant signaled that he had become wary of all the attention: Asked what he had learned from the affair, he said he "learned that the media can find you no matter where you live."

Crowley also said he might take a few days off to digest the events of the last few days.

"I'm not really sure this is really happening," he said.

(CBS)
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by truth-b-toll August 2, 2009 12:48 PM EDT
Once it was established that he was the owner Crowley should have left the mans home, but he arrested THE HOMEOWNER basically because he got UPPITY! So what if the owner was indignant? He had a right to be, IT'S HIS HOUSE! nuff said...
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by pointofnoreturn August 1, 2009 6:37 AM EDT
i think both mr gates and mr crowley should do some introspection, mr gates should imagine if the cop had been a african american, what he would have said and mr crowley should imagine if mr gates had been white, what he would have said and done. would they have acted the same way?

at the same time, i will always wonder, if mr gates was already confirmed as being the owner of the house, what were the grounds for his arrest, being rude to a cop? and if this is an offence for which one can be arrested, even at discretionary powers of the cop, the law should do some serious rethink.

apologies are in order, after both men get their facts in order, its just who should apologise for what.

to agree to disagree says nothing about two grown men trying to rationalise what went wrong.
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by jenkins501 July 31, 2009 3:02 PM EDT
I was extremly impressed with Officer Crowley at the press interview. Very poised and professional. The department has a lot to be proud of today. I had mixed emotions on this "incident" but now I have made a decision. It is in favor of the officer. I do relialize Prof. Gates was very tired after being in China then stopping in NY, but.............
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by jayrod0224 July 31, 2009 2:29 PM EDT
by the_majesty July 30, 2009 11:04 PM EDT
I'm very disappointed that Gates didn't apologize to Officer Crowley.
I'm also disappointed that Obama didn't apologize to Officer Crowley and the Nation. It just proves how small Gates and Obama are.

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Listen, the_Majesty, No one cares or gives a sh*t what you say! I have noticed that you have no life. First you are a republican and second you have nothing better to do than post your ignorant, meaningless post over every political subject. Go Away!!!!
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by pasmalltown August 1, 2009 7:19 AM EDT
Although I agree with very little the_Majesty has to say, he/she has the right to voice an opinion. Just agree to disagree, move on and learn to live with people that do not share your views.
by Krissy77 July 31, 2009 1:02 PM EDT
geecee827

So.... if you don't like Obama's Administration it's because you're a racist? Okay--you really seem like a rational person right now.

Oh....and -- 71/2 more years?? Not if his ratings continue to decline the way are now.... Oops--I expressed disdain against a liberal....I must be a racist!

Oh wait, I can't be....I'm hispanic!
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by pasmalltown July 31, 2009 9:47 PM EDT
Let me remind you that hispanics are not immune from being racists, just as whites can be, and blacks and asians. By simply being in the minority does not mean you're NOT a racist, just as being in the majority does not mean you ARE racist. While in the Peace Corps, Black American volunteers could not serve in Western Samoa (a predomintantly polynesian island in the South Pacific) because of the racism they experienced, yet whites were readily accepted.
by credibility2 July 31, 2009 12:10 PM EDT
Gates made this an issue about race and bigotry, even referring to Crowley as a racist. Obama has also. Gates was attitudinal, belligerent, mouthy, argumentative, aggressive, arrogant and non-compliant. The only teachable thing in all of this is that many blacks like Gates continue to have no respect for law enforcement, especially when an officer is white. The cop did his job, period and owes no one any type of apology, especially the offending Gates. Gates needs in-depth psychological counseling for his irrational fears, and paranoia and for his contempt, racism, bigotry and hatred of those who are non-black and especially in position of authority. Those like Gates, are the ones guilty of perpetuating racial divide because of their ignorance and backward-thinking; until they accept that fact that they are wrong, nothing will ever be accomplished. It's not always the white folk's fault. If it were, Gates wouldn't be where he's at today.
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by truth-b-toll August 2, 2009 12:43 PM EDT
entonces nomas eres una pendeja?
by aubfmet July 31, 2009 12:02 PM EDT
I believe that this case involves elements that are far ends of the
spectrum, but have a great chance of coming together.
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by sddemocrat July 31, 2009 11:36 AM EDT
President Obama is half white-half black. His mother was white and his father was black. He should tend to the business of the United States of America. We are American people no matter what race, religion, sex, married, single etc. The constitution of the United States provides for ALL people.
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by pensacola8-2009 July 31, 2009 11:14 AM EDT
Most police are not like Crowley. Most would not have arrested Gates in the first place. Of those who would have, most would have apologized and not been stubborn or arrogant about their error.

Crowley is incorrigable and needs to find another line of work. I can believe this after watching him and his department exhibit their reprehensible arrogance and stubborness in front of President Obama.
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by mattcat25 July 31, 2009 11:10 AM EDT
I wonder (because it hasn't been reported) if, or when Professor Gates will have appear before Magistrate on this matter. And, if the Cambridge District Attorney will proceed with prosecution based on the arrest by Sgt. Crowley for the offense.
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by Questionews July 31, 2009 11:33 AM EDT
Haven't thought about that!
I imagine that if he does go to court the next panty wad party will be all about what race the judge is. (I hope not, but you know it will be)
by Krissy77 July 31, 2009 11:04 AM EDT
studdaa1:

As a Hispanic woman I totally agree: There is no such thing as reverse discrimination or "reverse racism"....

because it's just RACISM.

I suppose it's not racist when a white person comes to Miami can't get a job because he's white (and therefore cannot "relate")?

I suppose calling someone a "stupid white boy" is not racist?

So, according to that rationale, because I'm Hispanic (and therefore, a minority) may I call someone the N word? After all, I don't "have any power," right?

So...that wouldn't be racist...right?

Get a clue
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by Questionews July 31, 2009 11:13 AM EDT
Spot on Krissy!!

I think some feel that if they fall into a certain racial category it provides them a level of immunity from having to be respectful to people that have a different skin shade, religion or lifestyle.
by robinspp July 31, 2009 9:27 AM EDT
Mr. Crowley is not a matured person, it is visible in his face. He will never accept his stupidity.
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by Questionews July 31, 2009 10:34 AM EDT
"visible in his face"???

God I hope you never serve on a jury!
by brianbwb-2009 July 31, 2009 11:25 AM EDT
And you will never accept his rights as a US citizen, you are the immature one.
by notsouthern July 31, 2009 8:48 AM EDT
Had this all taken place in Dixie, the black man would have been run over by a car, then the Dixie courts would have let the southern redneck murderes go.
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by moonbeam91 July 31, 2009 8:40 AM EDT
Darn proud of you Sgt. Crowley! You appear as the only honest one here. I like your style!
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by cinoti July 31, 2009 8:18 AM EDT
Why is the actual audio tape of the Prof. verbal assault or
not towards the officer, not being made available?
It would either make the case against the Officer or
be damming to the Prof. If the tape is never made public
how can the truth ever come out. Is this an example of
the (ironically) "White House" using its influence?
If so that is very much more troubling!
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by moonbeam91 July 31, 2009 8:41 AM EDT
DITTO!
by pasmalltown July 31, 2009 8:46 AM EDT
If there is one(?) .... The transcript of which will either quiet kimmiecat and OneStaticHorizon or give them fuel for their "inquistion". Either way, we could all relax and have a beer.
by Questionews July 31, 2009 10:43 AM EDT
That's your "transparent" government at work!!
by kimmiecat July 31, 2009 8:13 AM EDT
The officer is, was and is still a racist. He used his badge and his authority as an officer of the law to harrass, provoke and intimidate another HUMAN BEING. His job was to investigate a potential crime. When he clearly learned that there was no crime, he became angry that Prof. Gates didn't see him as his superior, but rather an equaland wanted to be respected at his own home. This hurt the cop's racist ego. When minorities, American Blacks in particular speak the same way we are spoken to, whites view it as hostile, angry or aggressive behavior. I would have reacted the same way as Prof Gates. It was his home. He broke no law. If anyone broke the law the cop did. He continued to provoke and harrass Mr. Gates at his home and for that he should disciplined.
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by pasmalltown July 31, 2009 8:35 AM EDT
"This hurt the cop's racist ego"
After reading both responses, crowley's and gate's, I think it's fairly easy to determine who's "ego" is bigger and to characterize either one as "racist" inflamatory. And as far as I've read about the whole situation NO ONE "broke the law", so unless you have some creditable evidence that Crowley "broke the law", drop it and talk about things that make sense.
by brianbwb-2009 July 31, 2009 11:23 AM EDT
To pasmalltown

Having a big ego is not illegal, arresting a US citizen for exercising his right to free speech is. Crowley broke the law.
by pasmalltown July 31, 2009 9:05 PM EDT
To brianbwb-2009 July 31, 2009 11:23 AM EDT
So what you're trying to say is Crowley broke the law when he arrested Gates for disorderly conduct? Gates was not charged with "exercising his right to free speech", rather disorderly conduct and yes the charges were dropped. But if you honestly believe that every police officer that has arrested a suspect and the charges are later dropped has broken the law or is illegal, then we'd better start building some more jails.............. And if you bother to re-read my original statement, I never implied that having an ego, large or small, was illegal - you must of plucked this notion from somewhere other than reality.
by fleabag75 July 31, 2009 7:37 AM EDT
Okay folks,,,,, let's leave it go now. This bone has been chewed on enough. Let's all go see what is happening in the rest of the world now.
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by zonkzilla July 31, 2009 7:34 AM EDT
Crowley is acting like an ego tripping power hungry punk and he gives cops a bad name.
I would like for everyone of every race who thinks they have been abused by Crowley to come forward and tell their stories.
Cops who are "never wrong" should scare America.
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by babooph July 31, 2009 6:44 AM EDT
Sounds like these two guys calmed down -it was no real earthshaker anyway -the other cop who fumed out in his email should get back on the job & this thing can be put aside - more important things are brewing.
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by truth-b-toll July 31, 2009 9:22 AM EDT
You are right! Thanks for speaking out the TRUTH!
by jeannieb43 July 31, 2009 2:04 AM EDT
I'm glad Sergeant Crowley didn't apologize. He had nothing to apologize for. It was the professor who kept baiting him [I heard a transcript of the confrontation on the radio]. The professor thought he was better than anybody else, and just dared the cop to do his job. His job was to make sure the location was safe from any further danger. The professor kept nagging at him, but the sergeant didn't break. Good for him!!
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by brianbwb-2009 July 31, 2009 10:54 AM EDT
To YouCantBSirius

Your opinion is incorrect, you have a private disturbance, which, as long as no one is being harmed, and no neighbors complain specifically about it, the police have no business interfering. Crowley abused the extent of the law, therefore it was not lawful. There were no complaints by the neighbors of any public disturbance, so your point is false.

Since when has your home, and the lawn in front of your home become public property?

As for not suing, Dr. Gates has indicated that he is considering it, and even though he would most likely win, the damage award would probably not be worth his time, it might be interesting for one or more of his students, but until they pass the bar, they cannot legally act in the case.
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